(02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I suspected that I'd touch a nerve or two with that statement. And on further reflection, I should not have implied that Ra lacked understanding, but rather that, IMHO, he doesn't present the whole picture.
Ok, fair enough! I wouldn't quite say that a nerve was touched, though. That sounds stronger than what I felt. I just felt surprise and curiosity.
(02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Here's my real point. Many of the descriptions or explanations that Q'uo and Ra give for STS actions and behavior tend to produce judgmental responses in those that read them. As a recent example from another thread, let's consider...
Hmmm...interesting how we perceive it differently. That just never entered my mind.
(02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Time and again we hear that the nature of STS is control, manipulation, and disregard for other's free will and rights. Although I concede that this may be (but, IMHO, needn't always be) a characteristic of STS, what I hear ChaotikMind saying is that it misrepresents the true nature of STS which is simply concerned with itself primarily - but does not inherently wish to dominate and manipulate others.
The point I was trying to make was that to assume that any one individual, be it ChaotikMind or anyone else, is speaking of the same thing Ra/Q'uo are speaking of, might not be accurate. Any of us can share our own perspective, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is describing what Ra/Q'uo are describing. In other words, it is a presupposition that ChaotikMind is an STS entity and therefore able to represent that polarity. I could tell you that I am a 5D STO entity, and I could be totally wrong. What I think consciously about my polarity/density might not even be accurate.
Rather than assuming that Ra/Q'uo are wrong in their description of STS characteristics, I would be more inclined to think that they are accurate, and if someone does not have all those characteristics, then they are probably of mixed polarity.
(02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I also think that there is an elitism, of sorts, in many STO individuals because they feel that theirs is the "right" ultimate path, and smile when they think that in mid sixth density the STS entities must transition to STO in order to proceed.
Undoubtedly some of us may have issues that need to be balanced. Certainly we are not all above feelings of judgment or elitism.
However, to think in terms of transitioning to STO in 6D is thinking in terms of duality. Duality is no longer a dynamic in late 6D. I don't think it's a matter of the STS entities switching polarity at that point, though that would be true in the earlier densities. I think more in terms of everything merging into Oneness in 6D...and that being the same outcome of both paths...the same mountain peak if you will, that is reached by different paths.
(02-18-2009, 12:42 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Is it not just as likely that early 6th Density STS teachers, inform their students that STO must convert to STS in order to continue? Consider this: Isn't the act of turning ones back on those lower density STO souls in need of service, in order to allow one to "turn inward toward the source" the ultimate self serving act? I suggest that STS entities do not have to become STO to proceed, and STO entities do not need to become STS to proceed. What must happen is that all polarity must be abandoned and a true balance achieved. For those watching this balance from an STS perspective, the STO becomes more like them, and vice versa. Ultimately, they all meet in the middle.
I understand your point but would respectfully disagree. I think by the time any of us get to 6D, all of this becomes merely academic. In other words we don't really understand what 6D is like. Undoubtedly there is much understanding yet ahead of us.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I love this too, because we can all learn from one another.