02-11-2009, 08:24 PM
(02-11-2009, 05:13 PM)Lavazza Wrote: In the case of mirror gazing, I don't see anything disenchanting about your way of looking at this phenomenon. I don't believe that fundamentally there should exist any contradiction between science and spirituality. So if you are receiving a psychic vision or your brain is manipulating things to create a vision is irrelevant, because you are still seeing something other than yourself.Exactly my thoughts. In practice we often place science and spirituality in opposing camps. But there is a deep zenlike spirituality in science itself. When it is applied properly rooted in the philosophies it came from and spirit casts aside its preconceived notions on how the world aught to be then there is no conflict. Matter is simply the "view screen" on which spiritual entities play out their lives. No matter how mundane a thing is from a materialistic viewpoint. The spiritual experiences of these things can still be profoundly eye opening.
Quote:I think the real question is, do you derive meaning from what you see? And if so how do you interpret it?This guy named Robert Anton Wilson suggested that "The thinker thinks and the prover proves" in that order... So I would suggest maybe our state of mind, the sum of our expectations and the questions on our minds determine what we will consider proven by having the experience..
If thats true then they are subject to great distortions. So what experience can be experienced free from these preconceptions?