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Mirror Gazing - Wander-Man - 02-06-2009
I stumbled upon this the other day while staring at myself in the mirror (I'm a bit of a narcissistic SOB) and my vision got dark and smoky, kind of like i was going blind...i was getting blind spots, and i noticed by body outlined in light, and other weird things, like my entire body would turn black like a silhouette, my face would sort of mutate/devolve into a sort of zombie-like face, and then other peoples' faces would superimpose onto mine, my head turned into a big formless black void, i saw a little alien dude's face and lots of other different faces. It was a little freaky but I could stop it at any time by refocusing my eyes. No I wasn't on any drugs.
I had known nothing about mirror gazing before this event, so i googled "seeing other peoples faces in the mirror" and learned this was a fairly popular thing. Have any of you guys ever tried this?
RE: Mirror Gazing - ayadew - 02-06-2009
I believe most of us has done this, since it's fairly probable you'll do it by "accident".
It's quite interesting indeed, I have no real theory as to why it happens, but it must be a kind of meditation. Doing this was my first experience of a kind of deliberate meditation in any case. It's very easy to lose track of time and thought while doing this, you stare into the infinite and a subjective visual representation of it.
RE: Mirror Gazing - 3D Sunset - 02-06-2009
Ra alludes to this as a critical practice to accelerate the disciplines of the personality. It is part of the process Ra refers to as: "know yourself, accept yourself, become the Creator."
Quote:Ra Book I, Session 10
Questioner: For the general development of the reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?
Ra: I am Ra.
Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously see that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking empowers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.
Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.
Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.
Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.
The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.
There are also numerous quote from Q'uo and others elaborating on the process including:
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_2002_0428.aspx
There are many others which you can explore for yourself.
One last thought on mirrors: Don't overlook the mirrors that are the people all around you. Every day, anything that someone says or does that causes a reaction with you is them being a mirror for you. They are mirroring back a part of you that you need to consider and resolve.
Enjoy the exploration,
3D Sunset
RE: Mirror Gazing - Wander-Man - 02-06-2009
(02-06-2009, 09:29 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Ra alludes to this as a critical practice to accelerate the disciplines of the personality. It is part of the process Ra refers to as: "know yourself, accept yourself, become the Creator."
Quote:Ra Book I, Session 10
Questioner: For the general development of the reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?
Ra: I am Ra.
Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously see that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking empowers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.
Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.
Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.
Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.
The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.
There are also numerous quote from Q'uo and others elaborating on the process including:
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_2002_0428.aspx
There are many others which you can explore for yourself.
One last thought on mirrors: Don't overlook the mirrors that are the people all around you. Every day, anything that someone says or does that causes a reaction with you is them being a mirror for you. They are mirroring back a part of you that you need to consider and resolve.
Enjoy the exploration,
3D Sunset
I guess what I was wondering was if there was a Ra Material/Q'uo explanation for what I'm seeing.
http://www.geocities.com/osho1980/med2.html that guy says I'm looking at my unconscious, http://www.ehow.com/how_2276408_communicate-spirits-mirror-gazing.html says I'm looking at spirits, http://spiritual-web.com/mirror-gazing-scrying/ says spirit guides, someone else said ancestral spirits, supposedly Nostradamus saw the future, and Lincoln as well.
If I had to guess who I was seeing, I would guess I was looking at my 'unseen helpers' as Carla would say. What do you guys think?
RE: Mirror Gazing - 3D Sunset - 02-06-2009
Here is a more direct quote that is more relavent to your specific question. From:
www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_0418.aspx
Quote:We would now move to a discussion of the details of ways to get in touch with more information about the self in previous incarnations. There are two basic ways which you may find efficacious in getting in touch with the information concerning past incarnations. The first way is organic and slow. Usually it involves simply expressing to the self each day the intention of coming—we correct this instrument—of becoming more aware of the experiences that have occurred to the self in other parts of the soul stream before and after this incarnation. It may be helpful to express this intention by looking at the self in the mirror. You may look into the eyes or you may simply look out of focus at the face. Either technique is efficacious for some entities. You may indeed find the image of your face in the mirror beginning to change into different faces as you gaze into that mirror for some time—we would suggest five of your minutes as the appropriate cutoff point; certainly between thirty seconds and five minutes at a time is enough intensity for you to experience at any one time. We would not suggest doing this more often than once a day. Such work as this may seem slight; however, it is substantive and powerful. When you harness your will and focus it, you are a person of magic and power and that which you desire will come to you.
Hope that helps,
3D sunset
RE: Mirror Gazing - Richard - 02-06-2009
(02-06-2009, 04:17 AM)Wander-Man Wrote: I stumbled upon this the other day while staring at myself in the mirror (I'm a bit of a narcissistic SOB) and my vision got dark and smoky, kind of like i was going blind...i was getting blind spots, and i noticed by body outlined in light, and other weird things, like my entire body would turn black like a silhouette, my face would sort of mutate/devolve into a sort of zombie-like face, and then other peoples' faces would superimpose onto mine, my head turned into a big formless black void, i saw a little alien dude's face and lots of other different faces. It was a little freaky but I could stop it at any time by refocusing my eyes. No I wasn't on any drugs.I’ve had this same experience. I thought I was just nuts. I was in the gym of all places and working out on the treadmill. It had been a stormy day and power surges had knocked out the cable. Consequently, I was staring at a dark TV screen. And in that glossy murkiness…my reflection changed. Not just once, but many times. Going from my face to various types of brutish visages. Heavy lowered eyebrows, thick rough looking skin…segueing and re-forming into other primitive looking countenances.
I had known nothing about mirror gazing before this event, so i googled "seeing other peoples faces in the mirror" and learned this was a fairly popular thing. Have any of you guys ever tried this?
I was alone in the gym on a Friday night. My hair was literally standing up on the back of my neck and I could feel my heart thumping and constricting in my chest. But I stayed on the treadmill staring into the screen because I was interested…and somewhat frightened also.
It eventually faded away after I asked it to go. But still….
I told my wife about a few weeks later. I still didn’t half believe what happened. We were jokingly calling it…”The Ghost in the Machine”. But reading you story….perhaps it was something else?
Richard
RE: Mirror Gazing - airwaves - 02-06-2009
It is a really good way of showing you that we are all indeed one.
I have done this many a time after getting out of the shower since about age 12.
Anyway I have just recently made sense of it.
RE: Mirror Gazing - Lavazza - 02-08-2009
I haven't tried this yet but I think I might eventually. I admit it sounds a little frightening, not that I think there's anything to be afraid of, just that it sounds a little creepy. But I know my curiosity will get the best of me after a while.
RE: Mirror Gazing - airwaves - 02-09-2009
Redacted!
RE: Mirror Gazing - Monica - 02-11-2009
(02-06-2009, 09:29 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: One last thought on mirrors: Don't overlook the mirrors that are the people all around you. Every day, anything that someone says or does that causes a reaction with you is them being a mirror for you. They are mirroring back a part of you that you need to consider and resolve.
Important reminder!
RE: Mirror Gazing - Ali Quadir - 02-11-2009
I wonder if it's sensible to add the neurological explanation at this point... People sometimes want to believe in the paranormal more than they want to hear alternatives. And I tend to make myself impopulair. Anyway here goes.
Our Neurons are good at quickly recognizing and reporting a stimulus and then proceeding to do something else. In a very dynamic world. If they remain used for a longer time for the same task they will quickly tire and begin making slight mistakes which can be perceived. The changed images usually vanish very quickly if you blink your eye.
I'm not saying that the things you see are without meaning. You get literal ambiguity in the neurons. And this stimulates the perception of subconscious visions. Combined with psychic abilities this might trigger actual visions. I know for a fact that "mirror scrying" has been a part of the european occult tradition for centuries. They allow visions to be perceived by reducing the influence of normal vision. In exactly the same way a crystal ball does this..
Anyway the latter part is occult tradition. The former part is absolutely understood by science.
A very similar event occurs when you draw a black dot on a piece of paper you can make it disappear by staring at it intently for about a minute. This isn't magick perse... It's a neurological game.
Perhaps I'm being too down to earth. But I think Science proved itself worthy of our attention whenever it has an opinion. We don't have to agree. But if we disagree we should do this only with some very good reasons. And not just because we prefer the alternative.
Discernment is very important. And we usually have too little of it. In my opinion the goal isn't to believe in the occult, it is to discover the truth however occult or mundane it might be.
Anyway, I hope I'm still lovable
RE: Mirror Gazing - Lavazza - 02-11-2009
Of course! And don't stop giving your point of view either, I think I speak for many when I say, we want to hear it. I'd hate for any line of thought to become discouraged, (besides hateful thoughts of course). We need it to stay objective, and it's a service to everyone when they're given food for thought.
In the case of mirror gazing, I don't see anything disenchanting about your way of looking at this phenomenon. I don't believe that fundamentally there should exist any contradiction between science and spirituality. So if you are receiving a psychic vision or your brain is manipulating things to create a vision is irrelevant, because you are still seeing something other than yourself.
I think the real question is, do you derive meaning from what you see? And if so how do you interpret it?
I love finding the philosophy in things like this
RE: Mirror Gazing - Ali Quadir - 02-11-2009
(02-11-2009, 05:13 PM)Lavazza Wrote: In the case of mirror gazing, I don't see anything disenchanting about your way of looking at this phenomenon. I don't believe that fundamentally there should exist any contradiction between science and spirituality. So if you are receiving a psychic vision or your brain is manipulating things to create a vision is irrelevant, because you are still seeing something other than yourself.Exactly my thoughts. In practice we often place science and spirituality in opposing camps. But there is a deep zenlike spirituality in science itself. When it is applied properly rooted in the philosophies it came from and spirit casts aside its preconceived notions on how the world aught to be then there is no conflict. Matter is simply the "view screen" on which spiritual entities play out their lives. No matter how mundane a thing is from a materialistic viewpoint. The spiritual experiences of these things can still be profoundly eye opening.
Quote:I think the real question is, do you derive meaning from what you see? And if so how do you interpret it?This guy named Robert Anton Wilson suggested that "The thinker thinks and the prover proves" in that order... So I would suggest maybe our state of mind, the sum of our expectations and the questions on our minds determine what we will consider proven by having the experience..
If thats true then they are subject to great distortions. So what experience can be experienced free from these preconceptions?
RE: Mirror Gazing - BrownEye - 05-31-2012
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers18.html
Quote:Would you like to have a word with your long-departed mother? How about experiencing a hug from your deceased grandfather?
The world's foremost expert on the near-death experience says he experienced a hug from his deceased grandfather. Dr. Raymond Moody developed a technique that involves gazing into a large mirror, an ancient technique to receive visions. For example, the great seer Nostradamus used a reflective device to have out-of-body travels to see into the future
Someone sent me the plans for an actual "magic mirror", creating a liquid concoction using certain types of minerals and a custom bowl. One of these days I will get around to building one.
You know, they show the exact thing in use in many movies.