I want information referring to detoxification methods people here have used/heard of

[Monica]

Yes, me too. That and when they use a "proprietary" system of diagnosis that can't easily be replicated by other practitioners. Or worse... one of those "quantum" machines that can supposedly read your subtle energy fields.

I'm with you on that! It's a pet peeve of mine whenever I've gone to a practitioner and s/he says to discontinue all supplements I was already taking and switch over to their brand, with no regard for how much $$ I'd already spent or the possibility that some of those supplements might suffice just fine.

I recently bought some Chinese herbs from dragonherbs.com and it was quite refreshing that the practitioners gave free consultations and were happy to go over the ingredients of the herbal formulas I already had, to avoid any duplication. No one had ever been willing to do that with me before!

Weird. I guess she didn't really take those lessons from Jesus to heart.

She believed herself to be Moses reincarnated. (Yes she secretly believed in reincarnation, though she'd never admit it publicly.)

Which is fine, but she still had this "I am the leader" mentality.

Elitism and control issues can be very subtle. But then again- it takes a very high level of balancing to be free of yellow/orange ray distortions. We all have them to some degree, wouldn't you say?

That is a given.

Plus I think it is easy for Christians to get blocked in green ray. Think about it- they not only have to accept lies and tell them to others, but are generally encouraged to ignore their own inner wisdom, or in extreme cases to completely substitute somebody else's conscience and ethical system for their own!

So I can see why there would be a propensity to block green ray. Remember, once the energy hits green ray it flows naturally into blue and indigo... and those with strong blue/indigo wouldn't make very "good" Christians at all...

That could be a whole 'nother topic that I don't have time to get into right now. You know I'm with you on that!

There's a placebo component to everything!

Everything? Dogs? Cats? Horses? Mice? Rats? Babies? Young children?

But yes, it does definitely sound like there is something more going on there than mere placebo if skeptics are noticing results.

Skeptics, dogs, cats, horses, babies, children, lab rats and lab mice.

It's true that drinking more water (even fluoridated tap!) would probably benefit most people to some degree. But to conclude that there must be no additional benefit to ionized water would be a logical fallacy.

Yes! But they sure do it a lot.

Also- give those docs a break! As I'm sure you know there are so many different machines out there and so many people making unsubstantiated claims. How can anybody ever make sense of it all?!

Easy. Just do their due diligence. It isn't hard to figure out, with the proper information, that we readily supply. It can withstand scrutiny and the doctors who do scrutinize it usually come around.

I've observed that the doctors (MDs) who scrutinize it usually are impressed by the research and often buy the machine for themselves or their staff, but are afraid to offer it to their patients, for fear of getting in trouble and losing their licenses. I've sold machines to a number of MDs.

Alternative practitioners, on the other hand, are usually more resistant, because they are already so embedded in some protocol. I believe many of them turn it down because (perhaps subconsciously) they are afraid of being put out of business.

Do you ever get frustrated by all those cranks selling waters that don't do what they say they do?

Who me? Frustrated? Nah...

Seriously, I'm beyond frustrated. I've had to work through the phases of anger, frustration and disgust, to a place of acceptance. Else, I wouldn't be able to do this business. Applying Law of One principles has helped a great deal. In the early days, I would just want to scream at them "How do you sleep at night??? Knowing that your DISinfo could cause someone to DIE who otherwise might have been healed? ...knowing that if they buy your cheap junk they might DIE whereas if they bought our medical-grade machine they might LIVE? How do you live with yourself?"

But of course I can't do that. So I've had to just accept that those who choose healing will find our machine, and those who fall for the slick advertising of the junk, have, on some level, chosen illness and maybe even death.

I'm curious to know your take on this quote...?

I had always interpreted that to mean emotional and spiritual battles, rather than bloody wars. I hope I wasn't wrong on that, because that would totally suck if 4D still has rampant violence. How would that be any better than 3D, in that case?