I want information referring to detoxification methods people here have used/heard of

[Monica]

You might be surprised to learn how few supplements we regularly take! Although not too long ago I wanted to see what I could put together as a generic supplement protocol for digestive health. I definitely saw some improvements, but then again I don't have severe digestive symptoms.

I don't take many supplements any more. Mostly superfoods and a few herbs, seaweeds, iodine (temporarily) and probiotics.

I'm learning to ferment my own foods though, so maybe can let go of the probiotics once I'm doing that.

I'd be interested in hearing of your generic digestive protocol!

When it comes to making recommendations to others I try to be cognizant of not including anything which isn't specifically indicated for a particular symptom or test finding so as not to waste their money.

That's very conscientious of you! I dislike when practitioners try to sell their entire product line to every patient.

Yeah- overdoing a fast can cause the metabolism to slow down. Especially if muscle loss starts to occur due to protein deficiency. I think it is also important to be able to fast in a relaxed environment. I'm not sure how helpful it is to try and fast in the hustle and bustle of typical American living.

I used to fast and go to work, in a fairly high-stress job in IT. I wouldn't do that now.

I had to have one done in order to graduate. I wasn't too thrilled about out, but I had some allergy symptoms leave and never come back after just that one treatment!

Oh that's funny that it was a requirement for graduation! I like that - at least the practitioner wouldn't be recommending something s/he hadn't already experienced!

HOLY CRAP!!! I can't imagine doing anything 1-3 times per week for 3 years much less colonics!

Holy Crap is right!!! Not one of the smartest things I've ever done!

Were you concerned about overdoing it at the time? The nutritionist apparently thought this was fine...?

Oh yes! I timidly (I was timid back then, believe it or not!) questioned her about it, and she said "being dependent on colonics is better than being toxic." (direct quote!)

Which of course, is insane!

How did they manage to convince you that you needed 3 years of colonics if you weren't even very sick?!

I was young, naive, and starry-eyed. She was a Christian pastor with major control issues. I started seeing her at age 20 for female problems and sinus headaches, and she helped me get out of a dysfunctional relationship, and ended up being my spiritual mentor. It took me 3 years to realize that I didn't need a guru and to disentangle myself from her. shudder

She told me at one point that she herself was dependent on colonics. Creepy! It was then that I realized "This is as far as I'm going to follow this crazy person."

My husband caught her eating a Whopper cheeseburger and confronted her about it. She said "My patients can't eat this, but I can!"

That really turned him off. (I was away from her by then.)

She didn't teach people how to have a healthy lifestyle; she just kept them dependent.

Whenever I think of her, I think of those 2 Wanderers who woke up 'disconcerted' to realize they'd graduated STS. I can't help but wonder about this woman, who truly believes she is "God's servant" yet fails to see how controlling she is.

Do you know of any examples where somebody was pretty skeptical, and also didn't make diet or lifestyle changes, and still got great results?

Oh sure! Lots! They just have to be willing to drink enough of the water, and not drink sodas or sports drinks. They can still be skeptical. The water works. It isn't placebo.

Tell me about it. :-/

Have they done any studies comparing ionized water to filtered water? Drinking more water in general would probably benefit a lot of people.

I hear that all the time, especially from doctors. They say "People got those results because they drank more water...any water would do." but that simply isn't the case.

I'm not sure about human studies, but there are plenty of animal studies, comparing animals drinking other water vs ionized water.

And I know of lots of people who were already water drinkers, myself included, who didn't increase the amount of water...only the type of water.

I thought I had heard there is also some risk of exposure when getting them removed.

That's true. It's important to go to a dentist skilled at removing mercury fillings. There are techniques to prevent exposure during the removal process.

I had all mine removed with no problems. The dentist used a rubber dam, though there are other aspects to the protocol too.

Plus, isn't that an expensive procedure? I guess it would depend how much total mercury was in the mouth and how well the detox processes were otherwise functioning.

I don't remember it being that expensive, but it was almost 30 years ago, so I'm not sure how much it would be now.

How is the microclustering measured?

Exact measurement is done in a lab.

For demonstration purposes, we put a teabag in our water (room temperature) and it makes tea instantly. We then pull the teabag out and make another cup of tea...the same teabag can make at least 20-30 cups of tea, in our water. The reduced surface tension pulls out more of the nutrients.

We can drink an entire liter of water fresh from the machine, without any bloating or sloshing whatsoever. Water from competitors, even with the same pH and ORP, causes bloating because it has very little microclustering.

Stir a teaspoon of chlorella or bluegreen algae into water from a competitor, and 1/2 hour later it will have settled at the bottom. Whereas, in our water, it will stay suspended.

When in 4D do you suppose people will either finally learn how to recognize a strawman argument, or just stop using them altogether? I get the feeling this skill would be necessary in order to form a cohesive social memory complex.

Let's hope that in 4D people are no longer trying to outdo others at all!