Wanderers 'intelligently penetrating their status'

[zenmaster]

36.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one short one before we close. Can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are, and finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?

Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.

So, at that time, taking the ~9% from the first group, there were roughly 6 million people here who *knew*, not suspected, they were not from earth? Doesn't that number seem remarkably high?

[jivatman]

Yes it does seem high - and it's unlikely that Ra means that one knows they are a wanderer;

Instead it probably includes anyone who are certain enough that they are different that they place some sort of label on themselves,

This might range from those who think they are angels (I've personally encountered a few wanderers who thought this), fairies or nature spirits, etc.

To those of a more sci-fi orientation who are fairly sure something makes them different, but attribute it to genetic or environmental causes.

Sure, it might still seem like a high number, but remember these thoughts are generally not the sort of thing you put on your facebook profile.

[zenmaster]

Yes it does seem high - and it's unlikely that Ra means that one knows they are a wanderer;

Right, obvious for two reasons: #1 is that Carla invented the word ("what this instrument would call a Wanderer"), and #2 is the material was not disseminated to those individuals.

Instead it probably includes anyone who are certain enough that they are different that they place some sort of label on themselves,

This might range from those who think they are angels (I've personally encountered a few wanderers who thought this), fairies or nature spirits, etc.

To those of a more sci-fi orientation who are fairly sure something makes them different, but attribute it to genetic or environmental causes.

Sure, it might still seem like a high number, but remember these thoughts are generally not the sort of thing you put on your facebook profile.

Good points. I have not found an tradition or teaching that quite matches up with the concept of densities or wanderers as related by the L/L Research group. I does seem that many wanderers, if not most, today tend to use the "angel", "fairy" or "light being" terminology. And their use of "angel" seems to loosely borrow from, but is not bound to religious text. To me, after buying into the comprehensive "universe" explained in the Ra material, it seems to beg the question of what they are talking about. I mean, what is a fairy or angel?

I thought a fairy/nature spirit was an entity from the local earth planes. If so, I could see how people would relate to them as different, but how could that be associated with not being from earth?

[Ali Quadir]

I don't think the number is high. These are the people who have come to the conclusion they are wanderers and thus can see to a degree through the veil and make sense of it. That's not a dramatic accomplishment is it?

Instead it probably includes anyone who are certain enough that they are different that they place some sort of label on themselves,

This might range from those who think they are angels (I've personally encountered a few wanderers who thought this), fairies or nature spirits, etc.

I agree those would qualify. And I've met them too. Maybe indeed they're all over?

There must also be an enormous amount of people who are wanderers that don't know it yet. I know people who have developed an alternate personality in roleplay there are whole summer camps where people go to dress up for days and be someone they're not. Someone who is like "the they" that they should really be like... They could all be fleeing from this hard world into their imagination. This is the everyday diagnosis.

If 4d is truly incomprehensible from a 3d perspective. Then quite probably my understanding of what being a wanderer is about isn't right. Perhaps there is a 4d understanding where wanderers werewolves fairies angels and nature spirits are all natural expressions of what we really are.

Ra's statement was about the then moment. almost 30 years ago. The influx of other kin has greatly increased since. I think these days with the internet if you wake up one morning after a full moon having had a particularly intense dream about a four legged hunt in the woods. Figuring out there's people from all over the world who believe that is really only a 2 hour internet search. And that might be the difference between shrugging it off or exploring where that part of you came from.

I've heard the 2012 moment described as the end of the reality tunnel. Where this fixed singular reality we live in (to the degree it is anyway) stops being fixed and singular. In a way you could describe these people as experimenting with alternative realities.. Maybe so when they get there they know what to do? Almost like an angel child flapping it's wings, learning to fly.

The thing about alternative realities is that we collectively immediately call it "unrealities"...

Today I heard a story about 5 mentally retarded men entering a coffee shop and it was really cold.. So they wanted hot coffee but only one guy had enough money for one small cup.. So he bought one cup, and they stood in a circle, everyone took a small sip and then passed it on to the next guy untill the cup was empty. The girl behind the bar was in tears. The rest of the world didn't even notice. They were too wrapped up in their own self induced reality tunnels.

Who is crazy and what's real anyway?

[zenmaster]

The point is not to determine what is 'real', only to determine something is useful enough (and why) for whatever purpose. I don't think anyone here is talking about what is or isn't acceptable belief. The 'reality-tunnel' thing is outgrown or transcended with a larger worldview in the course of understanding the nature of subjective belief systems.

[unity100]

So, at that time, taking the ~9% from the first group, there were roughly 6 million people here who *knew*, not suspected, they were not from earth? Doesn't that number seem remarkably high?

i suspect there are those that know even more, but not speak. that may be the hobo next street. that may be a random person somewhere else.

Right, obvious for two reasons: #1 is that Carla invented the word ("what this instrument would call a Wanderer"), and #2 is the material was not disseminated to those individuals.

they are looking at Carla's vocabulary at times like these, and choosing words.

And their use of "angel" seems to loosely borrow from, but is not bound to religious text. To me, after buying into the comprehensive "universe" explained in the Ra material, it seems to beg the question of what they are talking about. I mean, what is a fairy or angel?

I thought a fairy/nature spirit was an entity from the local earth planes. If so, I could see how people would relate to them as different, but how could that be associated with not being from earth?

there is too much religious influence still. and a lot of entities are refusing to let go of their existing biases. or, wanting to make the existing biases work with the new info for the sake of convenience and not to disrupt the peace.

[Ali Quadir]

there is too much religious influence still. and a lot of entities are refusing to let go of their existing biases. or, wanting to make the existing biases work with the new info for the sake of convenience and not to disrupt the peace.

Amen... But also: As above so below.. if we perceive this in the world around us we should expect this in our own behaviors either directly or a distortion of it.

[Peregrinus]

Do I think this number was high? Not at all though I can speak only for my own particular circumstances.

Prior to coming upon the LOO, I thought I was perhaps a fallen angel, and often people asked me if I was one. I spoke the words of the LOO and lived, for the most part, a life which was full of great and death defying (thanks to my angels) experiences, understood and knew this reality is but a plane of existence unlike that which I am normally used to. Most importantly, I knew I was here for something but did not know for what, and often spoke to the Father as well as to the stars at night. Only upon reading the LOO was I able to determine my true nature, begin work towards disentangling myself from the fray towards work of the adept, and penetrating the veil. I am most thankful to Carla, Jim, and Don for having provided the means by which understanding has come, opening the path to understanding and metaphysical work which has enlightened me.

[yossarian]

I've always felt very different but not like I came from another planet. Actually I've always felt like a fairy/mermaid/dwarf more than anything. Some kind of fantasy creature from the Earth haha.

Of course these aren't wanderers.

[Ankh]

I had similiar experience as Peregrinus above, but instead of angel terms I thought of being different in Light. I thought of myself as being some kind of Lightbringer but felt bad about it because of the unworthingness. I am most thankful as well to Ra, Carla, Jim and Don for the information that spread clarity about that, and gave me tools to work with.

In regard of numbers I feel it is rather too low. RA said that 1981 (?) there was about 65 million Wanderers incarnated here. It's only 10% of the total population here. So it means that only one of ten people you meet is a Wanderer. Add to that the number of Wanderers not being able to function in a way they intended to before the incarnation and it seems to me as a rather too small number.

[thefool]

36.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one short one before we close. Can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are, and finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?

Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.

So, at that time, taking the ~9% from the first group, there were roughly 6 million people here who *knew*, not suspected, they were not from earth? Doesn't that number seem remarkably high?

it depends. If we take 9% or about 7 million people to be completely self aware then it seems like a high number to me. Maybe that is where you are coming from. I think the key is to get a good definition of 'penetrating intelligently their status'. What does it really mean as per Ra? Does it mean totally self aware or does it mean understanding in a certain way?

[Peregrinus]

The numbers according to Ra.

1981 = 4.5 billion people.
1981 wanderers = 65 million
= 0.01444444444, or roughly 15 people out of 1000.
Those that had been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they were = 5.85 million.

Were the number to have remained relative to population of todays world at
2010 = 6.9 billion people, the number of wanderers would be approximately
2010 = 99.6 million wanderers.
Those that have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are = 8.94 million.

[zenmaster]

36.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one short one before we close. Can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and have become aware of who they are, and finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or to improve the contact?

Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.

So, at that time, taking the ~9% from the first group, there were roughly 6 million people here who *knew*, not suspected, they were not from earth? Doesn't that number seem remarkably high?

it depends. If we take 9% or about 7 million people to be completely self aware then it seems like a high number to me. Maybe that is where you are coming from. I think the key is to get a good definition of 'penetrating intelligently their status'. What does it really mean as per Ra? Does it mean totally self aware or does it mean understanding in a certain way?

I'm not as sure what Ra means by 'penetrating intelligently their status' as others seem to be here, but it's interesting that Ra did attempt to both quantify and qualify specific differences in wanderers' understanding about their 'larger condition'.

Also, I'm not sure if such understanding would be considered "penetrating the veil" or "memory block", or if it's the result of a bunch of feelings, experienced over time that reinforce or make compelling a certain way of understanding their situation.

[Peregrinus]

I'm not as sure what Ra means by 'penetrating intelligently their status' as others seem to be here, but it's interesting that Ra did attempt to both quantify and qualify specific differences in wanderers' understanding about their 'larger condition'.

Also, I'm not sure if such understanding would be considered "penetrating the veil" or "memory block", or if it's the result of a bunch of feelings, experienced over time that reinforce or make compelling a certain way of understanding their situation.

Agreed. Understanding one is a wanderer and penetrating the veil are two different things entirely.

Again, I can only speak from my own perspective.I would suggest that understanding one is a wanderer may be simply more clarity of one's purpose here in this plane.

Of course I cannot speak for those that have reached the fully enlightened state of consciousness and remained there whilst in space/time 3rd density, but for me, entrance into time/space and full consciousness whilst still in third density... is something... that I shall never forget. Of course, upon returning to space/time I was once again in a veiled state, but with new understanding... with certainty and knowledge I had not had before. Consistent meditation does have its advantages...

[zenmaster]

Of course I cannot speak for those that have reached the fully enlightened state of consciousness and remained there whilst in space/time 3rd density, but for me, entrance into time/space and full consciousness whilst still in third density... is something... that I shall never forget. Of course, upon returning to space/time I was once again in a veiled state, but with new understanding... with certainty and knowledge I had not had before. Consistent meditation does have its advantages...

Yes, in time/space there is a different access to various levels of self - our locus of consciousness is in time/space every night during sleep, for example. But I'm not sure if experiences such as those are necessarily suggestive of "being a wanderer" or an ET from another dimension.

It seems that as one gets closer to the heart of that with which one is particularly proficient, for example, one also discovers attributes that hint at a "home vibration". Then again, you may meet an intuitive or shaman an they could tell right away.

[Peregrinus]

I was visited by a messenger of my home social memory complex and was telepathically communicated where I am from, though I had to go through a process to come up with the vibratory complex of sound interpretation so as to correlate the telepathic understanding to a known social memory complex. I must say since then I understand telepathy in a way I never did (veiled) and look forward to using that form of communication whether prior to or after this incarnate experience is finished. Even the most beautiful prose is clumsy and limited compared to telepathy.

[zenmaster]

I was visited by a messenger of my home social memory complex and was telepathically communicated where I am from, though I had to go through a process to come up with the vibratory complex of sound interpretation so as to correlate the telepathic understanding to a known social memory complex.

Well I guess that's the "direct approach" ("you are from here"). I've had similar experiences (5D light-being entities, 4D entities, greys, earth spirits, etheric entities, UFO encounters, telepathy, precognition, primordial consciousness, satori, visions, remote-healing, etc) as I'm sure most others have had on this type of forum. Yet as fantastic and incongruent with status-quo thought as all that may be, it does not present a distraction or a longing for home, or particularly impress upon me some kind of identity as a wanderer. I just tend to want to learn more about it, and over time wind up finding people that somehow have found a way to have it all integrated and understood a lot more than I.

must say since then I understand telepathy in a way I never did (veiled) and look forward to using that form of communication whether prior to or after this incarnate experience is finished. Even the most beautiful prose is clumsy and limited compared to telepathy.

Clumsy but have you noticed, limited in a very specific way? That limitation is our own making. We are like miners in a gold with a unique and valuable opportunity to make something "real". I get the feeling that here is where things press us to determine what actually matters or is most meaningful. And the results of that effort is pertinent to all aspects of beingness, regardless of time or density.

[Eddie]

For as long as I can remember, whenever the night sky was clear, I would find the Pleiades and stare at them in wonder.

"Penetrating my status" has been a mixed blessing for me. I am afflicted with nagging persistent lonliness; all I can think about is being with entities of higher vibration.

I get temporary reprieve by interacting with our family here on Bring4th, and at Homecoming, but this vanishes directly when I am away. I had a difficult day yesterday.

I think that is why we have the veil. No one would incarnate here otherwise.

[Peregrinus]

Well I guess that's the "direct approach" ("you are from here"). I've had similar experiences (5D light-being entities, 4D entities, greys, earth spirits, etheric entities, UFO encounters, telepathy, precognition, primordial consciousness, satori, visions, remote-healing, etc) as I'm sure most others have had on this type of forum. Yet as fantastic and incongruent with status-quo thought as all that may be, it does not present a distraction or a longing for home, or particularly impress upon me some kind of identity as a wanderer. I just tend to want to learn more about it, and over time wind up finding people that somehow have found a way to have it all integrated and understood a lot more than I.

The direct approach did not actually contravene free will be telling me directly. The communication was more along the lines of "We are old friends (and I knew it), my name is _________ and you are of us". Because I had to find the vibratory complex of sound which corresponded to the communication of the name, it was left to me to choose to believe it or not. I would say this is akin to something like someone telling you "I can't say a thing", and then nodding yes or no to questions, not saying a thing.

My personal longing for home is apparently similar to that which many wanderers feel. This duality, although a wonderful way to learn, is incongruent with higher vibration and as such many feel extremely out of place, as such the first wave of the 1950's did; flower power was simply unprepared for the violence of the times, which is why modifications have been made to successive waves as well as to those born after the harmonic convergence to make them "more thick skinned", as it were. I believe though that the longer a wanderer has been coming and dwelling in this lower vibration, the less physical problems will be seen. Seeing as I have been here for at least a couple thousand years, my physical vehicles are very much out of the ordinary. I have broken more bones than is humanly normal (car accidents, motorcycle accidents, bronc riding, sports, etc etc) and heal so fast and fully doctors have never known what to make of it.

I believe messaging (or "cluing") wanderers (as it were) is done often to help them wake up when they are confused, though it is always done so free will is left intact. The choice to believe what was conveyed is always a choice. I choose to believe because of the sum of all my experiences while incarnate, all the way back to my childhood. Once the pieces of the puzzle fell in place, there was no looking back.

[Eddie]

I believe messaging (or "cluing") wanderers (as it were) is done often to help them wake up when they are confused, though it is always done so free will is left intact.

That's why I saw all those UFOs as a kid.

[zenmaster]

I believe messaging (or "cluing") wanderers (as it were) is done often to help them wake up when they are confused, though it is always done so free will is left intact.

That's why I saw all those UFOs as a kid.

That seems to be the purpose, to shake up things and make one aware that there is something "more". It has to be a big joke. When I was around 9, I got a strong suggestion to go to the nearest window in my house and look up. I did this and saw a show: three lights, probably a mile up, disappearing, moving around, reappearing a distance away. I thought that was interesting - the random, telepathic, suggestion maybe more so than the lights. Soon after, I got the suggestion to walk outside. I did *not* do this due to being too 'chicken' - it was dark out, after all. So maybe that natural fear meant they weren't on my side. But subsequent events made that long-ago night look quite ordinary.

However, some people here seem to have intimate contact with ET's - even to the point of being basically raised by them. I've read that guy's entire (fascinating) story and it's truthful.

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The direct approach did not actually contravene free will be telling me directly. The communication was more along the lines of "We are old friends (and I knew it), my name is _________ and you are of us". Because I had to find the vibratory complex of sound which corresponded to the communication of the name, it was left to me to choose to believe it or not. I would say this is akin to something like someone telling you "I can't say a thing", and then nodding yes or no to questions, not saying a thing.

During a meditation some time ago, I had a group of 3 or 4 individuals "visit". They felt familiar and were basically humanoids and pure white light, and the "area" that they were in was also of this nature. I felt the suggestion that they wanted me to join them "in their element", so I tried this and did not feel "pure enough" for that intensity or worthy enough or whatever. That light or vibration was just too pure for my state at the time. (I think it's ironic I'm using such new-age words, because I dislike ambiguity, but I don't think there's a sufficient vocabulary available for the experience). But that seemed to be random encounter, not anything like a deep meditation, just an honest approach. I remember I was just trying something new -a kind of earth or "gaia" connection with which I had zero prior experience.

[Eddie]

However, some people here seem to have intimate contact with ET's - even to the point of being basically raised by them. I've read that guy's entire (fascinating) story and it's truthful.

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I went to that link and read the first dozen pages. I must say, it was one of the most interesting and illuminating tales I've come across.

I decided to explore a little on that board. I'm now reading this one:
My Humanoid Contacts
and it too is fascinating. I think I'd enjoy an evening of frank conversation with those folks.

[DarkSai]

As i see it there are two key parts to Don's question. He asked how many people had 'penetrated the memory block' and 'became aware of who they are'. The memory block is only a perception derived from the veil between space/time and time/space, where all memories reside. So, i believe, piercing the veil is somewhat synonymous with piercing the memory block, even though its not 'technically' the same. This might also explain why Ra used the phrase 'penetrated their status'.
The 2nd part, 'become aware of who they are' i believe Ra have taken this as meaning simply that they became aware that they are eternal co-Creators and are One with All.
I would also like to point out that not everyone that pierces the veil has their entire soul stream laid out in front of them immediately. It requires a further act of free will, be it conscious or not, to experience those things once the veil is pierced.
Thus, i believe its not a far stretch to assume that Ra was counting those who have, essentially, had awakening experience where they touched intelligent Infinity and came to know their True Nature.

Feel free to disagree with me anything you dont agree with.

[zenmaster]

As i see it there are two key parts to Don's question. He asked how many people had 'penetrated the memory block' and 'became aware of who they are'. The memory block is only a perception derived from the veil between space/time and time/space, where all memories reside. So, i believe, piercing the veil is somewhat synonymous with piercing the memory block, even though its not 'technically' the same. This might also explain why Ra used the phrase 'penetrated their status'.

Sure.

The 2nd part, 'become aware of who they are' i believe Ra have taken this as meaning simply that they became aware that they are eternal co-Creators and are One with All.

I don't think so, because 1) awareness of being a co-creator or one with all has nothing specifically to do with being a wanderer and 2) this was in the context of an explanation of the varying degrees of awareness of being a wanderer.

I would also like to point out that not everyone that pierces the veil has their entire soul stream laid out in front of them immediately.

I tend to think of the veil more generally, as some kind of bottleneck to the unconscious - both personal and collective. Also one could say that interpreting dreams or working with active imagination is "penetrating the veil" because information is flowing from the unconscious to consciousness.

It requires a further act of free will, be it conscious or not, to experience those things once the veil is pierced.

Sure it should be obvious that here, in order for something to become experience in the first place (that is useful knowledge), the 'question' not only has to be asked (consciously or unconsciously), but consciousness must be applied to determine the answer. Otherwise there would be no point - no meaning, no place for the information to be integrated. Sometimes we do not want the information that is able to pass through the veil to be integrated, and we put in place an 'artificial veil' with blocking mechanisms like dogma, superstition and ritual or false morality. Two veils for the price of one.

Thus, i believe its not a far stretch to assume that Ra was counting those who have, essentially, had awakening experience where they touched intelligent Infinity and came to know their True Nature.

But everyone has a "True Nature" and anyone can have an "awakening experience" - so you must be referring to a particular experience of penetrating the veil and seeing a part of the personality that was particularly suggestive of being an ET being.