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    gharghur (Offline)

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    #61
    08-19-2009, 12:54 PM
    Whitefeather,

    Very well put.
    We, who are aware, create our own reality, and work towards creating opportunities for others to become aware.
    When fear is the weapon, love and unity is the defense.
    The STS will fail. They know it, and we know it.
    Naturally, they have every right to try. And we have every right to awaken the masses to help in impeding their assault.
    Recently, there are signs that the masses are wakening.
    Namaste

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    08-25-2009, 09:09 AM (This post was last modified: 08-25-2009, 09:10 AM by Vince.)
    (08-18-2009, 11:25 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: With the economic situation the way it is, at this point I'd rather get our house paid off.

    this is what i get worried about for about ten years from now. i don't know what the prime interest rate is going to be at.
    (08-19-2009, 12:39 PM)gharghur Wrote: Vince,

    It's not a good idea to take on more debt.

    okay, thanks.

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    08-27-2009, 10:46 AM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2009, 01:51 PM by Richard.)
    (08-18-2009, 02:42 PM)thr33tim3 Wrote: Hi Whitefeather, Ali and Richard

    I really admire your positive attitude, at least the way you express yourself here on this forum. I have aspired to attain the mindset that you seem to express, but it still eludes my understanding. Even now, I find myself disagreeing with your posts, a number of the details and statements you make. But essentially, I feel I am missing an understanding.

    As I've said, I've meditated and studied on these issues for about six years now, which admittedly is not that long compared to some people who have been aware since the Ra teachings in the '80s, etc. When I hear people such as yourselves make statements that we have total creative control over our life experiences and choosing what energies come into our lives, I simply DON'T SEE THAT in my life experiences. It is a beautiful idea, and I feel in my heart that it is correct on some level, but all I can say is that I have intentionally cultivated a calm, fearless, observer mindset, and frequently affirm abundance, healing, light etc in all of my actions. However, my experience in my life has been what I would call a "struggle", basically for as long as I can remember, with very little relief. I have consciously decided to "release the struggle" SO MANY TIMES over the years, but a month or two later, I find it is still with me. That is the pattern. No matter how positive I feel about things personally, the heaviness always creeps back in, and I have to be very vigilant to not allow myself to become deeply depressed or despondent.

    Ali, obviously whatever happened to you in 1995 shifted you away from your previous perceptions. Still I wonder what experiences you had that taught you that you actually have creative control over your existence? I have done sigils, affirmation tapes, "treasure maps" ala The Secret, visualizations, all towards releasing fear and attracting abundance and like-minded friends, and as I've said before I find myself at this point living in the middle of nowhere, making about a thousand bucks a month in a dead end job. And this is after years of meditating and affirmation work, not to mention two college degrees! So, it certainly confuses me, but again I salute your mindset and appreciate its positivity. I would simply love to have such experiences in my own life.
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    33,

    Please don’t think that a positive attitude is the result of a life of ease. Its not…life is tough. And, I suspect that Ali has been dealt some crappy hands in life also. I’m older than most here…and my path has been one of ups and downs. Financially, personally and emotionally. Can I say that my current positive attitude has been with me all along? Hardly. But all of us…are the sum of our experiences to date. At this time in my life, I can look back on the bad ol’ times, remember them for the lessons they taught me and know that however miserable those times were…they made who I am today.

    Doesn’t mean I want to go through them again. But those experiences taught me not to worry about the things that you have no control over. And to take control over the things that I can. Of course, when you are stuck in a dead end job and life just plain…sucks, platitudes do nothing to ease the discontent. Believe me 33….I know exactly where you are and what you are feeling.

    Richard

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    08-30-2009, 07:37 PM
    Hi Richard, thr33tim3, Monica, Gharghur and friends,

    I quite agree, Richard, with your above comment. Same here: Life is tough!

    About experiences, I would like to add that I believe that we do not fully create (only co-create) our experiences (others around are capable to create for most people all kind of obstacles, difficulties and miseries and, we see that everyday) however what I believe is that we create our response to them (to our experiences).
    It is in that way that I agree that we are the sum of our experiences.

    I believe it is the spirit in which we respond to life’s challenges that makes us truly who we are today, who we are constantly becoming – since we are in constant transformation-.

    Our responses are our choice and our creation!
    Our responses to our environment, to challenges from others and to experiences, are our co-creation since we co-create with others the entire world in which we live.

    And in creating these responses, little by little we change the world around us and, as a consequence, the next set of experiences will adjust slightly to the newly created us..., our choice of response continuously creating new patterns in our brains.

    When our response to the environment is on the positive side, it produces tiny positive changes in others and in the environment, with a positive feedback to us.

    Now, about the feeling of loosing, we usually see easily the losses but, do we as easily see the gains?
    Because we focused onto something and didn’t get it doesn’t necessarily mean that we lost.
    Imagine that you think that you’ve lost something somehow and, it was bad luck, simply try to ask yourself then: ‘’what is it that I have lost?’’ but then also ask yourself: ‘’what is it that I have gained?’’ because you have! There is no loss in evolution, only transformation, exchange of energy, consciousness and eventually, gain!

    So we could say that lost forces change.

    If you try to equate loosing with changing, it is easier then to focus on the changes and how to deal with them to your benefit. Since I believe you are STO orientated Angel, everyone will also benefit. Just imagine the snowball effect.

    So, make your choice! First choice is to choose who you are and, how you want/you choose to respond to life's challenges.
    With good humor, laugh and cheers? I personally like those, they usually are great helpers towards positive changes. They open doors to forgiveness, understanding, compassion and the whole array of positive feelings. Smile

    In the end, it is only a matter of perspective, is it not?

    Whitefeather, 31st August 09

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    09-10-2009, 06:21 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2009, 05:20 PM by Monica.)
    hi, all,
    I like the idea for finding a safe place, it does seem confortable. it is nice to make where ever you happen to be a "safe place". whether there will be very destructive upheavals around the Earth I am not sure what will happen. Each person must follow their gut feeling on this, and if disaster is coming to you it probably would follow you around the world no matter where you choose to live because I have learned there is a law of Karma for many things that happen to us, however I also have learned that if someone makes a positive change spiritually that this can change and stop some negative karma from happening too; according to how I understand the Edgar Casey teaching. He always said the spirit comes first then manifest in the physical plane.

    www.suprememastertv.com She recommends everyone become a vegan vegetarian to save the planet in time and also move away from the coast areas because of floods. I happen to live 15 minutes from the Atlantic and am planing to move into the mountain areas because I think its good for me to do. Each of us has to decide what is good to do. I am also a vegan vegetarian. the people at www.cosmicparadigm.com Marks corner, keep taking about a pole shift too and many Earth changes. I hope it all turns out not to be too tramatic for all of us.

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    09-10-2009, 06:34 PM
    Hi PandaB,
    Believe the pole shift potential has passed. Not concerned about aliens attacking earth. We're all aliens and only about 10% of us are negative. Karma begins and ends with forgiveness of self and others. We all make mistakes. But we do not all carry grudges and hate. What we project is what is returned. Find your peace. There you will be safe.
    namaste

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    09-10-2009, 09:54 PM
    Love Is More Powerful Than Napalm
    She has publicly forgiven an American pilot who helped plan the bombing that scarred her as a child -- she credits forgiveness with helping her turn the corner from victim to advocate. "Napalm is very powerful, but faith, forgiveness and love are much more powerful," she has said. (Hear her tell her story on NPR here.)

    For all Kim Phuc has been through, she has managed to find a silver lining: "The pain I consider as my protection. It humbles me, and helps me to never take my life for granted," she told HealthDay. "And to share my story."

    http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/09/11/37-y...eads-hope/

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    09-11-2009, 02:44 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2009, 02:47 PM by irpsit.)
    There is always so much focus in the *negative*. I know why.
    Because we feel that we must change and we face frustation, thus we wish destruction.
    That's absolutely human psychology.

    Seth (another 5D channeling during the eighties) said that in a very beautiful way, when he explain why people subconsciously wish natural disasters to bring forward a catalyst for change and personality rebirth.

    This is the reason why Ra said that the 2012 transformation will occur with some inconveniences, i.e. earth changes. It's not fate, it's all on people's wish and choice.

    I don't worry because I don't wish disasters to affect me, and I wish to serve others if they occur. I have wishes this in the past, a few years ago, maybe because I was angry with our society. Now I see it that this is not necessary. I don't need to waste time with doom. Thus, I work with the positive, I am not worried. I follow my intuition, so what could go wrong? This is the safest.
    In worse case scenario we will all come back to nature, with a big bump. Wink

    Only our faith and humbleness protects us.
    There are plenty of reasons to focus on love, companionship and brotherhood!!!
    Bring the transformation energies on.

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    09-11-2009, 05:17 PM
    (08-19-2009, 12:54 PM)gharghur Wrote: Whitefeather,

    Very well put.
    We, who are aware, create our own reality, and work towards creating opportunities for others to become aware.
    When fear is the weapon, love and unity is the defense.
    The STS will fail. They know it, and we know it.
    Naturally, they have every right to try. And we have every right to awaken the masses to help in impeding their assault.
    Recently, there are signs that the masses are wakening.
    Namaste

    Well, darn it, every time I start to say something here, someone else has already said it!Angel

    Remember, all of you, that what we perceive on the outside, is just a mirror image of what is on the inside. If you are fearful and chaotic, the world around you will be fearful and chaotic.

    If you live with an open heart, loving and accepting this beautiful world that we are privileged to experience, then you will be surrounded by peace, love, and abundance. You create your own safe place by being what you want the world to be!

    Know that there are many, many beings in this Universe that wish fervently that they could be in your place right now. Love your experiences. You are in the PhD program at Earth School. It's a challenging program, but once you get through it, you'll have a Doctor's degree in Love&Light!!BigSmile

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    09-20-2009, 09:15 AM
    I have really enjoyed reading this thread and getting all the different perspectives on the coming changes. As for Earth changes, Edgar Cayce predicted safe places (he actually set up his hospital in Virginia Beach because he interpreted that to be safe from the coming Earth changes). But I had not considered the possibility of STS and PTB being such a threat. I'm sure they will only get worse as the changes draw nearer.

    If the point of being on Earth at this period in time is to make "the choice" and to graduate, wouldn't that apply to STS as well as STO? I don't see the people who control the power and wealth as puppets for Orion any more than we are puppets for the Confederation. I see the greed and abuse as STS people trying to achieve 95% polarity. As we who have chosen STO grow stronger in polarity, we should expect those who have chosen STS to turn up the heat as they also grow stronger.

    What should we do?

    What comes to my mind is the Ra stating that we were given weak, vulnerable bodies in order to learn to work in unity with each other for survival. We are not meant to be self-sufficient. We are meant to pull together and support one another.

    If we truly came here to experience this transition, why run from it? Do we really want to hide somewhere and then come out after it is safe? Why not be in the thick of things where we can be an island of calm for others caught in the storm?

    I have learned that as we grow in awareness our lives become more difficult. Living in darkness and going with the flow is easy. Living in the light and going against the flow of 3D reality is far more difficult. However, I have found that awareness takes away much of the fear, and that takes away much of the pain. If everything hits the fan, many will be in a state of panic. I believe they will need what we have to offer.

    We are fast approaching the most significant changes humanity has ever experienced. We are so fortunate to be here at this time. I want a front row seat and I'm not leaving until after the final encore!

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    09-20-2009, 12:39 PM
    "We are fast approaching the most significant changes humanity has ever experienced. We are so fortunate to be here at this time. I want a front row seat and I'm not leaving until after the final encore!"
    Amen to that!

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    09-20-2009, 05:20 PM
    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: Edgar Cayce predicted safe places (he actually set up his hospital in Virginia Beach because he interpreted that to be safe from the coming Earth changes).

    Cayce evidently perceived a set of possibilities in the possibility/probability vortex. Many of his predictions did not come to pass, presumably due to shifts in the consensual manifestation. Ra stated that there are no longer any 'safe' zones in the geographical sense, but that our own polarization and personal guidance was our protection.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: If the point of being on Earth at this period in time is to make "the choice" and to graduate, wouldn't that apply to STS as well as STO?

    Yes. It is a Harvest of both STS and STO.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: I don't see the people who control the power and wealth as puppets for Orion any more than we are puppets for the Confederation.

    STS entities interact with other STS entities in ways that are different from how STO's interact. For those polarized to STS, controlling and being controlled are just a normal part of what it means to be STS. In other words, being a puppet or puppeteer is a hallmark of STS. So you won't find the same dynamic among STO's. Hence, the STS entities may very well be puppets for the Orions, but they are choosing to be, because that is the normal way for an STS entity to be. We aren't puppets for the Confederation because STO does not operate that way.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: I see the greed and abuse as STS people trying to achieve 95% polarity. As we who have chosen STO grow stronger in polarity, we should expect those who have chosen STS to turn up the heat as they also grow stronger.

    Exactly!

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: What should we do?

    Focus on being a beacon of Light/Love to the world...forgive ourselves and other-selves...take action if we feel guided to do so...but don't get caught up in fear of the machinations of STS...they're just doing their thing.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: What comes to my mind is the Ra stating that we were given weak, vulnerable bodies in order to learn to work in unity with each other for survival. We are not meant to be self-sufficient. We are meant to pull together and support one another.

    I agree. Perhaps that's why I personally don't feel inclined to head for the hills. I would not presume to judge whether that might not be appropriate for someone else, though.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: If we truly came here to experience this transition, why run from it? Do we really want to hide somewhere and then come out after it is safe? Why not be in the thick of things where we can be an island of calm for others caught in the storm?

    What a beautiful idea!

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: I have learned that as we grow in awareness our lives become more difficult.

    I'm not sure I'd say 'more difficult' though they certainly can be...I think I would describe it as 'more intense' in both difficulty and blissful resolution/understanding.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: Living in darkness and going with the flow is easy. Living in the light and going against the flow of 3D reality is far more difficult.

    How about living in the light of 4D and allowing 3D to just flow all around us? Hmmm...easier said than done!

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: However, I have found that awareness takes away much of the fear, and that takes away much of the pain.

    Yes, we are very blessed to have this awareness! I would much rather have this understanding than be oblivious. But, as Carla once said to me, there is an abundance of information available to all right now, via the media, internet, etc.. So those who would choose this awareness will surely find it.

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: If everything hits the fan, many will be in a state of panic. I believe they will need what we have to offer.

    Yes!!

    (09-20-2009, 09:15 AM)godexpressing Wrote: We are fast approaching the most significant changes humanity has ever experienced. We are so fortunate to be here at this time. I want a front row seat and I'm not leaving until after the final encore!

    I agree! What an exciting time this is! Sometimes I just feel in awe of what's happening.

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    09-21-2009, 05:22 PM
    This has been a subject of much discussion between my brother, our friend, and I. Right now, I believe that my consciousness will guide me to where I need to be, when I need to be there. That being said, if some fecal material were to hit the proverbial fan, there is a particular place we shall head to. Our friend has access to a cabin in northern Maine, right on the Canadian border (technically it's his grandfather's, but he has total permission from him to use it at any time). We chose this place to be our "just in case" zone in part because of one of the readings given by Edgar Cayce. In this particular reading he described the coming earth changes as more or less hitting the west coast first, then the southern east coast, and then ultimately hitting the whole east coast of America. Afterward he says that "The regions of southern and eastern Canada will be relatively unaffected". Roughly speaking (because I doubt natural disasters recognize the exact location of an international border) this would include the area in Maine where my friend's cabin is. I'm pretty sure when I get that seemingly unknown voice telling me "it's time to go", that I shall find myself heading to this location.

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    09-21-2009, 05:37 PM
    (09-21-2009, 05:22 PM)Eneary Wrote: I'm pretty sure when I get that seemingly unknown voice telling me "it's time to go", that I shall find myself heading to this location.

    That sounds like a very level-headed plan. If I had access to a getaway in a likely 'safe' zone I'd probably make some 'just in case' plans too. (Since I don't, then I'm just making do with what we have.)

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    09-21-2009, 06:41 PM
    Remember, Edgar Casey was corrupted by a negative entity in his latter years. Lots of his world changing predictions failed to be realized. This is typical of a 'fear mongering' negative energy corrupting Edgar's otherwise positive thoughts, and connection to infinite intelligence.
    Wherever you should be, you will be.

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    09-21-2009, 10:36 PM
    (09-20-2009, 05:20 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Cayce evidently perceived a set of possibilities in the possibility/probability vortex. Many of his predictions did not come to pass, presumably due to shifts in the consensual manifestation. Ra stated that there are no longer any 'safe' zones in the geographical sense, but that our own polarization and personal guidance was our protection.

    It's too bad there are no safe zones. I live in one of Casey's safe zones. If it's no safer than anywhere else, I could have been living on the beach the past few years! Nothing exciting about living in Ohio.

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    09-22-2009, 01:00 AM
    (09-21-2009, 10:36 PM)godexpressing Wrote: It's too bad there are no safe zones. I live in one of Casey's safe zones. If it's no safer than anywhere else, I could have been living on the beach the past few years! Nothing exciting about living in Ohio.

    Oh, so sorry! Sad

    I think if you have been guided to consider Ohio a 'safe zone' then it probably is for you. I think Ra meant that we need to depend on our own personal guidance rather than just following a recipe for certain areas being 'safe' while others doomed.

    Also, even if we choose to live in a 'safe' zone, it wouldn't really be safe unless we never traveled at all.

    Personally, I don't care much for travel anyway, but now I'm even less inclined to want to travel much. But that's just me. Sometimes I feel kinda silly about that, but then again I'm a Taurus, and we're sort of known for preferring to stay close to home.

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    I live near the beach right now and I consider most of Northern New England USA as safe places to be. Mother Earth gives us all plenty of warning before a weather or Earth event.

    I do have a safe place to travel to... its up and west.... into the wilds of Northern New England... Although... one can imagine and create just about any type of catastrophe given the focus, fear and motivation... Trees catch fire, earthquakes happpen, flooding, landslides... geez... the world seems to be coming apart at the seams... unless of course you look around your little area and see the beauty all around and notice that all is in a state of interdependent PEACE... Smile

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    09-22-2009, 12:48 PM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2009, 01:37 PM by Monica.)
    (09-22-2009, 09:18 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I live near the beach right now and I consider most of Northern New England USA as safe places to be. Mother Earth gives us all plenty of warning before a weather or Earth event.

    You seem to know something the rest of us don't. (or at least I don't!)

    (09-22-2009, 09:18 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: ...one can imagine and create just about any type of catastrophe given the focus, fear and motivation... Trees catch fire, earthquakes happpen, flooding, landslides... geez... the world seems to be coming apart at the seams... unless of course you look around your little area and see the beauty all around and notice that all is in a state of interdependent PEACE... Smile

    So true! How does one simultaneously prepare for every possible type of catastrophe? Even if there was certainty about places that are safe physically/geographically, what about societal unrest? killer viruses? corrupt governments? economic disasters? forced poisoning under the guise of medical treatment? The list goes on...

    We could really get ourselves all worked up, just thinking about all that stuff. 30 years ago it was easy...there was just nuclear war to worry about...but now, there are all these new things like mutated viruses and stuff...I can't help but think that this buffet of fear is being offered to those who would choose to live in fear, and needn't necessarily concern us.

    I used to try to prepare for all the biggies...until I realized how futile it was! For example, having your own garden seems like a good idea, in terms of natural or societal disaster...but doesn't allow for extreme weather like droughts, or for corrupt governments taking away the food. Freaking out over the next 'Captain Trips' could play right into the hands of those who would want to impose toxic vaccines on the unsuspecting public.

    Oh yeah and let's not forget about the evil alien invasion!

    There are just too many things to worry about...I can no longer keep up! As readers of the Law of One, we know there won't be an evil alien invasion (phew! what a relief!) so we can cross that one off the list...recent readings from Q'uo tell us the bad guys won't win in their quest for control of this planet, so we can pretty much cross off the list any fears about total dictatorships (on any permanent basis anyway)...we've also been told that the sudden, catastrophic pole shift has been averted, in favor of the gentle, gradual shift that's already been taking place...

    Gosh, those are some of the biggies, already eliminated!

    So what does that leave? The remaining biggies...health-related scares can be prepared for on a personal level, by doing the best we can to be strong and healthy...Yikes, that's a tall order for some of us! So even 'being healthy' might be insurmountable to some...and we already know that it's not a requirement for graduation...it just might make it easier to navigate the terrain of some of the possible scenarios.

    I actually feel that geographical disasters are the least of the concerns. My feeling (and I could of course be wrong) is that some of these other scenarios seem more likely at this point...and even then, I think most of it is probably fear-mongering. But I do confess to a tiny twinge of concern! (which I am trying to accept and love into oblivion, ha!)

    Here's an idea about localized disasters: I think there is a lot we can do to minimize those. I've seen at least 2 psychics teach seminars on how to balance the energies in your own area...they offered specific techniques for dissipating pent-up negative energy before it could manifest as an earthquake or some such disaster. I don't remember the exact techniques, but I would say that just meditating and focusing LOVE in your specific area could go a long way! Imagine if we each did that...spent some time each day praying/meditating a vibration of love and healing to our own local area, then doing the same thing on a grand scale (as with Carla's Gaia meditation). My hubby & I also do this daily, with focus on the particularly volatile areas of the planet (like Iraq etc.) We might just turn some of those 'unsafe' zones into 'safe' zones! And not for the sake of just ourselves, but for other-selves as well!

    I don't think of prophecies in terms of how accurate they are. The very idea of 'accuracy' implies a single, set timeline. But we know that the future will be one of an any number of possibilities/probabilities. So I see Cayce's predictions as but one possible scenario, one possibility/probability among many. But, regardless of how 'accurate' Cayce might have been, why were certain areas deemed 'safe' to begin with? He evidently was tuning into certain areas that had a minimum of negative energy buildup. That, we know, is subject to change, based on the energies of those who live there. Isn't that a bigger factor than physical fault lines etc? I would think. Therefore, it seems to me that the entire concept of 'safe zones' is rather a bit obsolete...I think there is much we can do to feel empowered to turn 'unsafe' zones into safe zones.

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    #80
    10-18-2009, 02:46 PM
    (09-22-2009, 12:48 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't think of prophecies in terms of how accurate they are. The very idea of 'accuracy' implies a single, set timeline. But we know that the future will be one of an any number of possibilities/probabilities. So I see Cayce's predictions as but one possible scenario, one possibility/probability among many. But, regardless of how 'accurate' Cayce might have been, why were certain areas deemed 'safe' to begin with? He evidently was tuning into certain areas that had a minimum of negative energy buildup. That, we know, is subject to change, based on the energies of those who live there. Isn't that a bigger factor than physical fault lines etc? I would think. Therefore, it seems to me that the entire concept of 'safe zones' is rather a bit obsolete...I think there is much we can do to feel empowered to turn 'unsafe' zones into safe zones.

    Greetings Monica,

    I' ve been away from my computer for a few weeks.
    Waow, so much great reading to catch here! Smile
    I so much agree with your lines above about prophecies, timelines, open possibilities as well as the energy of people living around as being the biggest factor for a safe place to be.
    I too believe that we can turn the place we live into a 'safe zone'.
    As STOs, we are building a kind of net or fabric all over the Earth, a fabric of love and care, of goodwill and solidarity which is and growing stronger everyday.
    L/L
    whitefeather

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    Marina (Offline)

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    #81
    10-25-2009, 05:50 PM
    This is such a tough topic because the mind (or ego) wants 'to figure it out' --to find safety in the face of all these prophesies--but our actual situation is that we are not in control, that catalyst happens or comes towards us like waves towards a beach, and we have the choice as to how to react to it.
    Do we have faith and hope in the face of the catalyst? Can we let go of fear and despair?
    Christ for example did not change his destiny. It was his faith and ability to forgive that were so awe inspiring.
    Thoughts of catastrophe capture my imagination like a horror movie, but I don't want to spend the last days of my life imagining the worst.
    How about remembering my husband's eyes or the smile on my daughter's face or the beauty of a maple tree turning a molasses color in October? How about forgiving people (and myself)?
    I think that was what Ra was trying to tell us: we make our consciousness. Is it the color of fear, hate, and despair, or is it the the color of love?

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    #82
    10-25-2009, 06:26 PM
    Good point Marina,
    Most of us are involved in family situations, and choices and events have placed us where we are today. Physical locations can not be so easily changed. We may know what's ahead, but we can not worry about it nor fear it. Those in our inner circle will need comfort when events start to unfold. So in this sense, we are always where we are supposed to be.
    namaste

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    Marina (Offline)

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    #83
    10-26-2009, 12:42 AM
    Thanks Gharghur. Also, there is always hope. Think how many people have gained understanding through Ra. Namaste.

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    #84
    10-27-2009, 12:10 AM
    Hi, I agree that it does not really matter where we are physically because, in fact, we naturally align ourselves upon the frequency matching our mind/thoughts/feelings/spirit. Only our frequency is important.

    In a holographic universe, the mind/thoughts and feelings of every individual contribute to the whole and, make a difference just by being. I believe it is what Ra meant when he/she/they said that we are all co-creators.

    All wanderers are in place already BigSmile , exactly where they should be. Everything will be fine.
    Since we project our mind in the world and by so doing, the world is created such and such, we only need to observe our thoughts and feelings and guide them in a peaceful and loving direction. Many have grasped this already and, many more will for we are spreading the word. Angel

    take care,
    w.

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    #85
    10-30-2009, 07:01 PM
    I'm new here, but it's wonderful to have a home away from Home.

    A few observations...

    1) Psychotronic devices exist They use them in megachurches to "control" the beliefs of the followers. See Dick Sutphen's article on Mind Control that he has so generously provided for free on Scribd.

    2) Why are we so worried about what's going to happen to US? Aren't we supposed to be worrying about protecting THEM?
    My health is so bad I won't be going far, but on the bright side, it's fun to watch the dr.s look at my MRI showing the completely crushed nerve roots in my neck...and stare in bafflement as I continue to move my arms, blissfully unconcerned witrh the "fact" that there's "no way" I should be able to, as no "signal" is getting to my arms.
    I wasn't supposed to live when I was born. When I did, I was supposed to be mentally retarded,etc.

    Trouble is, they forgot to tell me, so I just lived my life till I couldn't work anymore. The pain is a PIA, but most days it's not that bad.

    3) Do some research. When you hear the term "conspiracy theorist", remember Hitler's Big Lie: The more outrageous the truth is, the less people are to believe it.

    ***I almost forgot.*** Get out of SF, & take as many as you can. You're blocked in from going East, so British Columbia is probably the best place to take them.

    Whatever else you do, get out...and soon. It ain't gonna be an earthquake. You'll see a "sunrise" in the middle of the night.

    Love to All,

    Lakewolf Whitecrow

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    #86
    10-31-2009, 12:30 PM
    Lakewolf Whitecrow,
    Could you clarify the stuff about SF?
    Marina

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