Is this what it is: Everything is destined to happen

[Wai]

I was taught that we create our reality and some of that reality may be decided at our life-review before incarnation.

So:

1) A pedestrian was killed by a drunk-driver. Don't fret. The pedestrian probably asked for it during his life-review.

2) A young girl was raped and killed by four thugs. Nothing to be concerned about. The young girl probably asked for it in her life-review.

3) The four thugs who raped and killed the girl probably agreed to do this deed at their life-reviews. In fact, they helped the girl achieved what she wanted.

4) Hundreds of thousands of children died during the Bandar Aceh Tsunami. Don't grief. All of them probably asked for it at their life-reviews.

5) Your loved one is dying of cancer. It's okay. She probably asked for it at her life-review.

My 3D mind is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Anyway, don't be concerned about my thinking or mental health, I probably asked for this confusion during my life-review.

[BrownEye]

My 3D mid is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Yes and no.

Free will works two ways, and within boundaries.

Most commonly a child goes through that type of thing predestined. Most often for karmic balancing.

On occasion an adult can do those deeds through free will, but not often. Normally there are karmic impulses.

Free will exists within set boundaries, aaaand may not technically be considered "free" since it only exists within the matrix.

Things are agreed upon by both parties, two way involvement. This does not mean agreements between personalities, but rather through a team effort on the other side of the veil.

If you knew how "many" are involved in your activities you would probably seriously question exactly what free will means.

[AnthroHeart]

I've always figured our free will wasn't truly free. After all we don't have the free will to fly, or to create beings out of thin air.

I wonder if the archetypes limit our free will further.

We're in the dream of the Logos, so we are limited by the physics that it provides. And the Logos must have some desire of how it wishes the game to play out. I don't get everything I ask my higher self for. So there's an aspect of free will that is ignored.

I agree with BrownEye that many are involved in our daily lives. It probably takes a lot to orchestrate a life.

[Jeremy]

My 3D mid is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Yes and no.

Free will works two ways, and within boundaries.

Most commonly a child goes through that type of thing predestined. Most often for karmic balancing.

On occasion an adult can do those deeds through free will, but not often. Normally there are karmic impulses.

Free will exists within set boundaries, aaaand may not technically be considered "free" since it only exists within the matrix.

Things are agreed upon by both parties, two way involvement. This does not mean agreements between personalities, but rather through a team effort on the other side of the veil.

If you knew how "many" are involved in your activities you would probably seriously question exactly what free will means.

Your last statement always confused me. On the topic of preprogrammed catalysts, it is said that if one ignores a catalyst, it shall become more and more pronounced until the lesson is learned. How would this ultimately lead to free will being preserved? Does free will not exist when it's ones higher self/preincarnative self thats making such a decision? If there are an infinite number of potential scenarios for one to learn a certain lesson, how can free will be preserved if ones incarnation is consistently bombarded with this "you're gonna learn the lesson or else" mentality? Sure you still have the choice to ignore it but "you better not or you'll be punished even more severely the next go around" it's always puzzled me.

[xise]

Free will is maintained within the confines of this octave's choice of study: polarity. Thus, you have a choice of using catalyst to become negatively or positively polarized. The lesson will only repeat if it is not utilized for the paradigm set up in this octave.

However, it is also my personal belief that within the broad answers of negative or positive polarization, one can answer it by focusing on different types of sub-love or rays available to each of the polarities. Thus, a positive entity for example can use difficult catalyst to come with a primarily blue or green based answer, depending on the desires and the initial energy state or bias of the individual.

Ultimately, free will is about how you interpret your experience, and is not really about your actions. However, this octave (at least in 3d to mid 6d) does incentivize answering catalyst through the lense of positive or negative polarization.

[BrownEye]

Your last statement always confused me. On the topic of preprogrammed catalysts, it is said that if one ignores a catalyst, it shall become more and more pronounced until the lesson is learned. How would this ultimately lead to free will being preserved? Does free will not exist when it's ones higher self/preincarnative self thats making such a decision? If there are an infinite number of potential scenarios for one to learn a certain lesson, how can free will be preserved if ones incarnation is consistently bombarded with this "you're gonna learn the lesson or else" mentality? Sure you still have the choice to ignore it but "you better not or you'll be punished even more severely the next go around" it's always puzzled me.

Perspectives are "free".

Perspectives can be helpful or harmful.

Your route through incarnation is not exactly a single line (for most anyway). Your chosen perspective can and may unlock another probability that allows you to activate an option, allowing for more defining perspectives.

And yes, patterns repeat until they have been properly understood and integrated.

[Steppingfeet]

I was taught that we create our reality and some of that reality may be decided at our life-review before incarnation.

So:

1) A pedestrian was killed by a drunk-driver. Don't fret. The pedestrian probably asked for it during his life-review.

2) A young girl was raped and killed by four thugs. Nothing to be concerned about. The young girl probably asked for it in her life-review.

Hi Wai,

I've always been troubled by this particular logic. While I think it eminently possible that:

a) the perpetrator and the victim* may make a pre-incarnational pact to enact those particular roles, and/or

b) suffering a grievous incident may be preincarnationally desired in order to learn a certain lesson, or gain some balance, or alleviate some karma, etc.

I can't subscribe to the idea that all meetings of pain between people are pre-incarnationally chosen, and destined.

I think it ALSO possible that someone did not pre-incarnationally desire to be victim of a crime, but nevertheless becomes a victim of a crime due to the operation of the Law of Confusion during the course of the incarnation. That is to say, someone becomes a victim because of the spontaneous "free will" choice of the perpetrator to inflict a crime.

I say this because, if all these "bad" incidents are the result of past karma, how does karma begin in the first place? Where does it start? Doesn't someone *initiate* an unbalanced action without the previous momentum of unbalanced action?

Point being: logically speaking there is ever the possibility that an entity up and decides to *initiate* a wrong against another that is not preincarnationally chosen.

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But in the event that these traumatic episodes have actually been chosen prior to incarnation, I don't believe that it is necessarily a call for adopting an attitude of "don't fret".

Certainly all IS well, always, from the ultimate perspective; and we are offering our highest-best service to maintain that attitude that all is well; so not fretting - that is, being at peace - is a way to create peace.

But "don't fret" (and similar notions) can, without proper context, sound a bit dissmissive. As if to elicit a shoulder shrug in response to the suffering of others with a thought that, "Well, they must have wanted it on some level." This thinking *may* invite a certain perspective that sees the victim as "deserving" of that which she or he received.

It's a complicated issue, and one all the more murky because we generally cannot see pre-incarnational programming. In my own opinion, I think it personally best when viewing a crime, or infringement of an entity's free will, or an incident that strikes us as deeply unfortunate, to respond with compassion, empathy, and a desire to serve.

With love/light,
GLB

PS: I understand that "victim" isn't a desirable word in new age thought. I don't intend the word as an identity, as victimhood - that is indeed a disempowering way to view the self. I use it in a way that illuminates and describes the outer roles each person plays. Sometimes there are no legal "victims" of a crime, sometimes there are mutual perpetrators, and sometimes there are, by our earthly standards, innocent people who have been victimized without provocation by a perpetrator.

[BrownEye]

I say this because, if all these "bad" incidents are the result of past karma, how does karma begin in the first place? Where does it start? Doesn't someone *initiate* an unbalanced action without the previous momentum of unbalanced action?

Point being: logically speaking there is ever the possibility that an entity up and decides to *initiate* a wrong against another that is not preincarnationally chosen.

I would say that in the beginning "sh!t happens".

Then we eventually became aware, and the perceptions and resulting judgements kicked in allowing for energetic residue and imbalances.

[isis]

Dear Wai,

IMO, that is (pretty much) what it is.

I believe we all make up this one infinite identity/creator that has powers beyond imagination. So I think it's a safe bet that everything that can be willed/manifested/created into existence is willed/manifested/created into existence by the one, & only, infinite creator - AKA as you/us. Basically, I think everyone always gets exactly what they want - when they want it.

There have been many times when I thought I was getting something I knew for sure I didn't want only to discover it had to go down that way in order for something wonderful to occur. So, I think there's a possibility that the things that I think I don't want to happen happen bc a part of me wants it...my subconsciousness or w/e. I think we're literally subconscious know-it-alls.

This mentality keeps my demons at bay.

(I'm the only person I know of that is comforted by this line of thinking rather than disturbed by it - GO DESTINY!!!!!!!)

"Like God, I do not play with dice, & do not believe in coincidence."

[anagogy]

I was taught that we create our reality and some of that reality may be decided at our life-review before incarnation.

So:

1) A pedestrian was killed by a drunk-driver. Don't fret. The pedestrian probably asked for it during his life-review.

2) A young girl was raped and killed by four thugs. Nothing to be concerned about. The young girl probably asked for it in her life-review.

3) The four thugs who raped and killed the girl probably agreed to do this deed at their life-reviews. In fact, they helped the girl achieved what she wanted.

4) Hundreds of thousands of children died during the Bandar Aceh Tsunami. Don't grief. All of them probably asked for it at their life-reviews.

5) Your loved one is dying of cancer. It's okay. She probably asked for it at her life-review.

My 3D mind is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Anyway, don't be concerned about my thinking or mental health, I probably asked for this confusion during my life-review.

All of those situations could very well have been preprogrammed incarnate catalyst. However, one can't know that, so we shouldn't assume that is the case. The "pre-programmed" catalyst is still created in the moment, and can change if the purpose for such extreme catalyst is no longer needed (for whatever galvanizing purpose it served). The preprogrammed catalyst works similar to post hypnotic triggers, which trigger a certain momentum of thought, or karma we might say, which results in the manifested reality.

As terrible as those things you described are, you are only seeing it from the incarnate perspective.

Imagine you had a terrible, and realistic nightmare.

Suddenly, you wake up in bed. You were scared, but from this vantage point, you realize it was all an illusion, and that, in reality, you were never in any danger at all.

Death is waking up from a dream. Whether you were having a dream, or a nightmare, you wake up safe, in the place where you fell asleep. The perspective is different, broader, indestructible, and beyond the lower ranges of human emotion. You reemerge into pure positive energy.

As Ra said in their beautiful prose: "There exists one creation in which there is no loss."

"We leave you in appreciation of the circumstances of the great illusion in which you now choose to play the pipe and timbrel and move in rhythm. We are also players upon a stage. The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up once again. And throughout the grand illusion and the following and the following there is the undergirding majesty of the One Infinite Creator. All is well. Nothing is lost. Go forth rejoicing in the love and the light, the peace and the power of the One Infinite Creator. I am Ra. Adonai."

[Steppingfeet]

I believe we all make up this one infinite identity/creator that has powers beyond imagination. So I think it's a safe bet that everything that can be willed/manifested/created into existence is willed/manifested/created into existence by the one, & only, infinite creator - AKA as you/us. Basically, I think everyone always gets exactly what they want - when they want it.

Hey Isis,

Great post. In responding to this thought I'm moving beyond what I know (actually that's true for so much of metaphysics... or life in general on this planet), but especially so here.

Nevertheless, I agree with your concept. All possibilities that can be explored, will be explored, or at least have the potential to be explored. That the possibility arises whatsoever, on any plane of existence, necessarily means that it will be made manifest somehow, in some way.

How could a possibility exist, how could anything exist, without the will of the Creator?

But consider this quote:

82.10 Ra: Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. This is for the purpose of refinement of the one original thought. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

The question of "who is responsible?" and "where does responsibility lie" is a perplexing one for me.

One can read this quote to mean that the creator offers the stage, sets the paramaters, and bestows upon the actors the power, the free will, the resources, and the means to produce their *own* play. Those upon the stage, then, become creators through free will. And they create subsequent generations who in turn continue to refine and create the experiment/experience of the Creator knowing itself.

Add to this idea that Ra describes the empowering effect for the entity when it takes responsibility:

10.12 Ra: ...if this same entity, being biased from the depths of its mind/body/spirit complex towards love/light, were then to accept responsibility for each moment of the time/space accumulation of present moments available to it, such an entity can empower its progress...

So we have this idea that we, the manifest entities, are wholly responsible for our experience. Like you say:

There have been many times when I thought I was getting something I knew for sure I didn't want only to discover it had to go down that way in order for something wonderful to occur. So, I think there's a possibility that the things that I think I don't want to happen happen bc a part of me wants it...my subconsciousness or w/e. I think we're literally subconscious know-it-alls.

But then we get into an idea presented in this quote:

54.16 Questioner: Let me make an analogy that I have just thought of. A seven-stringed musical instrument may be played by deflecting each string [a] full deflection and releasing it and getting a note. Or, once the strings are capable of being deflected through their full deflection (producing a note), instead of producing the notes this way taking the individual creative personality and deflecting each the proper amount in proper sequence to produce the music. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. In the balanced individual the energies lie waiting for the hand of the Creator to pluck harmony.

Here we get into the idea of surrender, I suppose. That is, relinquishing what may be termed the personal will in favor of becoming an instrument for the Creator's hands to play us as It will. (Ultimately, self plays self, of course.)

I see both concepts present in your post. The idea that this is, essentially, the Creator's show, alongside of the idea that we are getting precisely what we want, even if we don't know consciously know that we wanted it.

Where do you see responsibility in this equation?

L/L, GLB

[Steppingfeet]

Also, this one ties into identifying the boundaries of the personal will:

84.4
Questioner: The instrument asked the following question: Ra has implied that the instrument is on a path of martyrdom, but since all die are we not all martyr to something? When, if ever, does martyrdom partake of wisdom?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a thoughtful query. Let us use as exemplar the one known as Jehoshua. This entity incarnated with the plan of martyrdom. There is no wisdom in this plan but rather understanding and compassion extended to its fullest perfection.

The one known as Jehoshua would have been less than fully understanding of its course had it chosen to follow its will at any space/time during its teachings. Several times, as you call this measure, this entity had the possibility of moving towards the martyr’s place which was, for that martyr, Jerusalem. Yet in meditation this entity stated, time and again, “It is not yet the hour.” The entity could also have, when the hour came, walked another path. Its incarnation would then have been prolonged but the path for which it incarnated somewhat confused.

Thusly, one may observe the greatest amount of understanding, of which this entity was indeed capable, taking place as the entity in meditation felt and knew that the hour had come for that to be fulfilled which was its incarnation.

It is indeed so that all mind/body/spirit complexes shall die to the third-density illusion; that is, that each yellow-ray physical-complex body shall cease to be viable. It is a misnomer to, for this reason alone, call each mind/body/spirit complex a martyr, for this term is reserved for those who lay down their lives for the service they may provide to others. We may encourage meditation upon the functions of the will.

[Matt1]

The answer is simple in my understanding.

1. Preincarnative catalyst between self and other self(s)

2. The experience of the law of free will between self and other self(s)

[Horuseus]

It isn't quite as clear cut as that at all. Others have provided a solid take on this however I'll take a stab.

The Soul extensions have programmed certain 'core themes', as well as the intermediate 'coordinate points' denoting key events one is contracted to meet. That being, your 'fate' within this incarnation may be to explore the idea of an abusive spouse, or to awaken and assist others, with point A - B already determined. Moreover, who you meet, have a relation with, children etc are also orchestrated 'backstage', so to speak. Now, how you go about transitioning to B from point A is determined by 'free will' within a certain 'spectrum' of acceptable experience. That being, it is highly probable you will take a certain roadway to a town, however the lane, the speed, and whether the journey is met with issues (How you go about it) remains to be seen. There are also lesser likely scenarios, such as missing the road entirely and deciding to hike across. Again, these are all analogies to convey a point.

When Spirit programs and coordinates an incarnation, there are various 'probabilities' that can be seen from the non-linear perspective, which are very much taken into account. Ra calls these 'probability vortices', however there are various labels relating to the same concept. For example, if I were to look at programming an incarnation, I would see the likely scenario of a couple meeting, getting on with each other, marrying and having a child. I would also see the probability of the life experience and upbringing, the health of the body, diseases/deformities to account for, karmic issues, and whether the catalyst they can provide is intune with the 'lessons' I wish to activate. It is so much more complex then this, however I have simplified it here. This would all be be coordinated with the 'Soul aspect' of the incarnate individuals backstage so that they agree and perform their roles. Often however, these agreements are made a couple generations prior, however 'spontaneous incarnations' are not uncommon either, where a couple can have a moment of passion not foreseen earlier causing the opportunity for a new incarnate vehicle to be made available if agreed upon (If not abortion/miscarriages usually ensue).

Not many realise this, however I must stress that 'Free Will' is quite the misnomer here, as we heavily manipulated by design by our Guides and HS to meet our 'coordinate points'. Our thoughts, inclinations, ideologies etc are to a considerable degree determined by our upbringing, surroundings, conditioning (determined prior), and at a metaphysical level the location of the planetary bodies and the constant thoughts being injected on a subconscious level by those intelligences we are not consciously aware of. Ergo, inclinations to move in a certain direction in life, are not necessarily 'self generated', but are 'given' or 'implanted', and this is done on a consistent basis. Based on this, and the 'manipulation', probabilities of a certain event occurring are honed to a fine art that only those experienced within the 3D incarnate cycle are able to assist with. It is also why some love adventuring and would never contemplate the idea of having children, while others the complete opposite.

That being said, there are also 'agreements' made on a 'Soul' level on a daily basis. During dreamtime in particular, arrangements are made by the individuated Soul aspect that is currently incarnated makes with others in a similar condition to coordinate future events, or to arrange alternate venues of meeting in accordance to 'unforseen' (though probable) changing circumstances within the incarnate vehicles life. All this is done without the awareness of the conscious mind/Egoic construct, which has no conscious memory of such events. Heck, event meeting someone for a brief moment in time, or being friends with them, is agreed upon on an 'energetic level'.

The issue with the scenarios posed in the OP is that it does not take into account the probability of those events. It may be the case that a Girl was not 'intended' to experience the idea of rape, and her Guides (seeing the probability) may have been subconsciously placing thoughts to tell her to take a right on the street rather than a left to where the attacker was, steering her out the way. This may have failed, given the awareness (or lack of) of the girl, as well as the inclinations of the would be rapist, and nevertheless will be agreed upon in those final moments by both sets of Guides on either side as well as the 'Souls' to karmically bind in such a manner. This is part of the game, and while not done intentionally, and could have been avoided in a miraculous fashions (Breaking the Law of confusion and Free Will) will make the most of the situation.

The situation of crossing the road is often posited by non-determinists. A fair point, to which the answer is essentially again all to do with probabilities. It is highly probable you will meet with an accident if crossing with cars going either way on a busy road, however the probability of that actually being done is very low. You have the 'Free Will' to do so, but it is rarely exercised, for we are highly engineered/manipulated to only operate and think and consider within a certain spectrum of experience/box.

tl;dr - None. Go read it you lazy people.

Edit: I was also told to add (Or clarify) that core agreements can and are (re)arranged in 'real-time'. That being, if something drastically changes, or you are doing better than 'expected' in penetrating the veil, say (Was always a probability, just not as likely) things can be 'speeded up', or new arrangements made to allow for this. So, you're not stuck with a certain theme, you have the 'Free Will' to change and alter your experience to something more desirable depending on how efficient catalyst is assimilated and worked with consciously, and vice versa (In which case experiences are usually repeated).

[isis]

Where do you see responsibility in this equation?

What? I'm not sure if I exactly understand your question so I'll just ramble.

Assuming it's true that one can even actually be responsible for things, who could possibly be responsible for things other than the one infinite creator aka you?

I take responsibility for everything that is. Correction: for everything that I think is. I think everything that seemingly is is ultimately my doing and also what seemingly is is what I like to think I am. I think I'm also that which is (seemingly) not - even though I can't come anywhere near fathoming how it's possible to be that which is not. =)

but maybe there can't actually be "that which is not"? Could we be that powerful?

This is how I see it, for the time being: I don't think we can fathom the magnitude of the powers we possess. However, I think we can begin to fathom the power - so I attempt it. "The nature of your language is such that what is distorted cannot, to our knowledge, be fully undistorted but only illuminated somewhat."

I think it's one of two things...either everything that can possibly happen already has or nothing can ever really happen at all. So I've thrown responsibility out of the window & yet had it all land on me at the same time & it's fun.

Either all is or all is not...or maybe even both - could we be that powerful?

All could be illusion, somehow even 'illusion' itself could be illusion, but that doesn't really make sense to me. (I like to think the definition of 'illusion' is somehow 'oneness'...)

All responsibility, or blame or praise or w/e, IMO can fall on no one other than me - if all is one/illusion/me...& this forces me to conclude something that really resonates with me: that all is, always, well (despite appearances) and that I work/exist in very mysterious *and powerful* ways.

[Adonai One]

I know nothing about life-reviews, pre-incarnative plans and other mystical ideas. I do know everything exists because of the respective possibilities. We agreed to all possibilities stemming from the first spark of consciousness as the concept of consciousness. When one of these possibilities come to exist, the choice was already made for it to be explored. As such, everything can be seen to be inherently freely given, everything is inherently valued and that everything is one. This is the Law of One.

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...But in the event that these traumatic episodes have actually been chosen prior to incarnation, I don't believe that it is necessarily a call for adopting an attitude of "don't fret".

Certainly all IS well, always, from the ultimate perspective; and we are offering our highest-best service to maintain that attitude that all is well; so not fretting - that is, being at peace - is a way to create peace.

But "don't fret" (and similar notions) can, without proper context, sound a bit dissmissive. As if to elicit a shoulder shrug in response to the suffering of others with a thought that, "Well, they must have wanted it on some level." This thinking *may* invite a certain perspective that sees the victim as "deserving" of that which she or he received...

I still see no reason to "fret" and suffer when peace can be found in all present moments through acceptance, even in one's desires to change the situation to something more desirable and helping another.

One can help another in distress without suffering, or at least accepting the suffering in a somber peace.

[MichaelD]

I was taught that we create our reality and some of that reality may be decided at our life-review before incarnation.

So:

1) A pedestrian was killed by a drunk-driver. Don't fret. The pedestrian probably asked for it during his life-review.

2) A young girl was raped and killed by four thugs. Nothing to be concerned about. The young girl probably asked for it in her life-review.

3) The four thugs who raped and killed the girl probably agreed to do this deed at their life-reviews. In fact, they helped the girl achieved what she wanted.

4) Hundreds of thousands of children died during the Bandar Aceh Tsunami. Don't grief. All of them probably asked for it at their life-reviews.

5) Your loved one is dying of cancer. It's okay. She probably asked for it at her life-review.

My 3D mind is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Anyway, don't be concerned about my thinking or mental health, I probably asked for this confusion during my life-review.

I think somewhere along the lines you've mixed up the point. Yes, according the the Ra material all 5 #s are possibilities, even always the case (maybe). Your tone suggests this doesn't resonate with you though.

Perhaps a soul did ask for the experience of being a young woman who is a victim of rape; or rather, maybe the soul needed it to rectify a karmic imbalance. Or maybe it was an act of pure disharmony where her captor sought to dominate her, subverting her free will. Or maybe something else happened that we will never truly understand. Regardless of which of these is true, it doesn't determine how you should FEEL about them. They are all simply tools to help us understand our world. Even more, they are tools with which we view our world and make decisions about how we choose to live our life.

Do you choose to collapse into despair if your best friend was raped and murdered? Do you see it as an act of pure evil by a truly lost soul who deserves their life being taken from them? Do you see it as a reason to never make friends again because they will always be taken from YOU? Or do you see it another way?

Do you see it as a play on the grandest stage imaginable? Do you see it through the eyes of love? The eyes of love see truth. What is truth to a human? Well, she was a woman. She had brown hair and she volunteered at a homeless shelter 3 days a week. She walked her and her neighbors dogs every morning. Then she walked down an alley one day and was brutally raped and then murdered. She's gone now, but her echo will remain on earth far longer than our short lives. You don't have to look to the metaphysical to see and understand this. Does she deserve to be mourned? Celebrated? Remembered? Forgotten? Ridiculed? Thats up to you to decide. There is no objective scale showing the proper feelings that should be felt when something happens to a loved one.

Do you yell at your child for disobeying you? Do you hold contempt in your heart for someone who fails you? Do you love and understand someone when they don't live up to what you know they can be? Do you pity the homeless, or love them?

Truthfully, the Ra material says nothing as to how we should feel about a woman being raped. Rather, Ra offers another way to view the world. A world which is the result of a Creator seeking every experience in infinity. To the creator, being raped and murdered is a valuable experience. Being a murderer is a valuable experience. ALL experiences are valuable, that is the entire point. God doesn't love Mother Teresa any more than he/she loves Adolf Hitler. God doesn't love the woman being raped any more than he/she loves the man raping her. These are hard things for a human to understand, and I would argue are beyond human understanding. We are forced to live in a world of duality, whereas "God" is a unity. If you were to see the world with God's eyes, life would lose its meaning because all things are meaningful. Emotions would be meaningless because there is only love. Life would truly be nothing more than the grandest play imaginable. WE give life its meaning. WE give God its meaning.

Every time we mourn a loved one. Every time we persecute another. Every time we help someone who is down. Every time we relieve our bladder. Everything we do is the essence of meaning. Do you want to mourn for the rape victim? Do you want to chastise her for her clothing choice that day? Do you simply choose to see the event as meaningless? Do you see it as a soul finally being freed from the pain of being human, returned to her true home? More importantly, does it matter?

No, it doesn't matter how you feel about ANYTHING. Well, at least not to anyone but you. The universe doesn't care what you do, it is pleased with you regardless and loves you anyway. The only reason to use these tools of world view is to put yourself in a place where you want to be. If you've made it this far (congrats!), then you probably know a bit about the place I choose to be. From the words I use you can tell how I choose to view my world. 2 years ago my grandfather died in his sleep. He was the greatest man I've ever known and he died in his bed, covered in his own feces and urine. It still brings tears to my eyes to even type it. Tears of joy, not sadness. I did not mourn him, nor did I particularly celebrate him. My life is my celebration to him. He helped me be who I am today, so my very essence as a human is a testament to his own life. Now I know his human pain is done and he can be at peace.

Truth is, we all live and we all die. None of us deserve any better or any worse than we get. We don't deserve ANYTHING. The very fact that you have air to breath now, lungs to take in the air, parents to have screwed to make you, and some creation event to begin everything, is a GIFT. Life is a GIFT, not deserved. Death is also a GIFT. Oh how sweet, to finally lay down all your burdens and be at peace.

How we view death is always how we view life. Is it to be mourned? Celebrated? Loved? Hated? Ignored? You tell me. I've made it pretty clear how I choose to see death.

[Phoenix]

Hey. I don't have the energy to read all these responses.

My own personal answer to these queries is that it comes down to free will. And if you are railing against these things. Such as ignorance etc. Then you are railing against god and his decision to grant his entities free will.

In the deciding on polarity of a third density entity. If a person does not choose service to others, they cannot be protected. Since they have to have the free will to choose service to self. Otherwise, that love is a violation of their free will.

[Adonai One]

Yet even the imprisoned, poor and most depolarized individuals are protected in our society.

[Phoenix]

Yes. I suppose there is protection of some sort for the unpolarised. The service to self path includes no guidance/ protection from love though. So I imagine there is some sort of gradient.

[Wai]

Thanks everyone for your comments.

There is much for me to chew on.

[BrownEye]

I will offer one of my experiments as a way to understand the construction of our boundaries.

I have been going into "fun" area for me as far as hypnosis. I have been setting up folks with what I call "optimizations", things like photographic memory, self trance inductions and full wakefulness, focus and mindfulness, all setup to a "key". This key can be a word or hand sign, or anything they want.

I have been setting up everyone with a deep trance key, letting them touch two fingers together for instant trance. A couple people asked "what if I do this on accident while driving?" I told them to go ahead and try it without thinking anything, and it did not work.

From there I explained to them that it is not possible for them to accidentally go into a trance while driving, because the subconscious/superconscious would not allow it. (unless of course it is their time to punch out)

This is part of the system where we are protected to the extent that no harm can possibly come to us if it might get in the way of our lessons. Beyond this we have an amount of free will.

Another way to look at this is that for most it is not even possible to commit suicide if it will cut the allotted time and learning short. This is where you find some that are partially successful, ending up in a wheelchair for life. This is when the actual learning experience can be had within those limits, and the free will was used to make a choice that removes much experience and added more limits. The attempt to escape this experience resulted in a removal of much experience and possible free will, limiting the person to only the required experience.

So we do have free will to an extent, but not so much that we can intrude upon the "protected lessons" of other individuals. What we think are horrible actions of others really are agreed upon at a higher level as part of this big experiment.

[Patrick]

My 3D mid is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

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If you knew how "many" are involved in your activities you would probably seriously question exactly what free will means.

I call them my team.

[Infinite Unity]

My 3D mid is going nuts over this line of thinking. Is this what it is?

Yes and no.

Free will works two ways, and within boundaries.

Most commonly a child goes through that type of thing predestined. Most often for karmic balancing.

On occasion an adult can do those deeds through free will, but not often. Normally there are karmic impulses.

Free will exists within set boundaries, aaaand may not technically be considered "free" since it only exists within the matrix.

Things are agreed upon by both parties, two way involvement. This does not mean agreements between personalities, but rather through a team effort on the other side of the veil.

If you knew how "many" are involved in your activities you would probably seriously question exactly what free will means.

Your last statement always confused me. On the topic of preprogrammed catalysts, it is said that if one ignores a catalyst, it shall become more and more pronounced until the lesson is learned. How would this ultimately lead to free will being preserved? Does free will not exist when it's ones higher self/preincarnative self thats making such a decision? If there are an infinite number of potential scenarios for one to learn a certain lesson, how can free will be preserved if ones incarnation is consistently bombarded with this "you're gonna learn the lesson or else" mentality? Sure you still have the choice to ignore it but "you better not or you'll be punished even more severely the next go around" it's always puzzled me.

The problem is relative to self. The self is afraid. It doesn't want to die. Think of that when thinking of survival. There is great despair at certain...points of realization. I won't expand on this to far, but know great sadness walks with every stride of joy.The footsteps echo is sacrifice, and the sacramental nature of all things.

[Infinite Unity]

Every single little piece is alive. To walk takes assistance. To breathe is to symbiate. To eat is to partake of energy sacrifice. Almost everything takes assistance from entities or consciousness. Everything is done by the creator. The Tao is the doer. I am not the doer.

[Infinite Unity]

Where do you see responsibility in this equation?

What? I'm not sure if I exactly understand your question so I'll just ramble.

Assuming it's true that one can even actually be responsible for things, who could possibly be responsible for things other than the one infinite creator aka you?

I take responsibility for everything that is. Correction: for everything that I think is. I think everything that seemingly is is ultimately my doing and also what seemingly is is what I like to think I am. I think I'm also that which is (seemingly) not - even though I can't come anywhere near fathoming how it's possible to be that which is not. =)

but maybe there can't actually be "that which is not"? Could we be that powerful?

This is how I see it, for the time being: I don't think we can fathom the magnitude of the powers we possess. However, I think we can begin to fathom the power - so I attempt it. "The nature of your language is such that what is distorted cannot, to our knowledge, be fully undistorted but only illuminated somewhat."

I think it's one of two things...either everything that can possibly happen already has or nothing can ever really happen at all. So I've thrown responsibility out of the window & yet had it all land on me at the same time & it's fun.

Either all is or all is not...or maybe even both - could we be that powerful?

All could be illusion, somehow even 'illusion' itself could be illusion, but that doesn't really make sense to me. (I like to think the definition of 'illusion' is somehow 'oneness'...)

All responsibility, or blame or praise or w/e, IMO can fall on no one other than me - if all is one/illusion/me...& this forces me to conclude something that really resonates with me: that all is, always, well (despite appearances) and that I work/exist in very mysterious *and powerful* ways.

We are that powerful, and already created that which is not, its also known as the negate path.