Fourth Density Earth

[AnthroHeart]

I'm curious as to how different the fourth density earth when it's fully potentiated will be from current.

Will we just all be telepathic, no need for writing, no internet, no television, papers, etc.

Will the structure we see still be illusion? Is space/time always an illusion?

[ayadew]

Basically the planet and it's inhabitants will be one being.. all in a perfect system.
Other entities from all over the universe will come to this 4th density planet (Terra) and rejoice and live here.
(operation terra)

[AnthroHeart]

Basically the planet and it's inhabitants will be one being.. all in a perfect system.
Other entities from all over the universe will come to this 4th density planet (Terra) and rejoice and live here.
(operation terra)

Interesting, so 4th density always assumes a social memory complex? I had thought there were 4D planets where not everyone was connected.

[Ali Quadir]

What I understand will happen is that people become much more synchronized. The moments where they are in opposition will become much less common resulting in peaceful coexistence. At the same time the synchronicity becomes a conduit for the social memory complex which already exists today. It is not manifesting clearly but it is here. Our synchronisation is essentially the same as a single celled organism becoming multi celled, in fact it is an advanced expression of the same thing. The level below is creating the conditions for the next level. All that is required to create life is to create a condition where it can exist, it will just poor in.

This social memory complex I think does not necessarily mean everyone is equally aware of their connection. They are always connected! Just like we are right now. I understand there are many variations not just in the commonness of the connection but also in the organizations of connection. It really is a living entity different tribes of life express different examples of this entity. It's not the same thing for all of them.. These will eventually evolve into 5d where the different examples of this entity will become similarly more synchronistic and create a place where the 6d entity already present in potential even now but not manifesting in this world in a clear way. These different entities are the same entity in different levels of existence.

At the top of the hierarchy is the one creator. He is our true core being.

Ayadew posted this in the inspirational video links a couple of weeks ago.. I think it goes into this in a very clear manner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU

Towards the one!

[ayadew]

The last 20 minutes of that movie is epic.

"we beg for destruction, because if we do not have these catalysts we can put our hate on, then we can only put the hate to ourselves. and then we see that the hate orginated from our selves all along. we can deal with wars, terrorism, but once we notice the chaos in ourselves thats when we become afraid, we'll take a million 11/9 above a moment of true insight"

No wonder we have this planet, no? We wanted it collectively. Let us want something better instead!

[Ashim]

Big free Radiohead concert, first off.

[Purple Dragon]

If you liked Kymatica, be sure to watch the Esoteric Agenda (prequel to it) as well. Also an excellent watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvp5BcICsig

[norral]

as i see it whatever bodies there are will not get sick. there will be
no poverty or great riches, no inequality, no lies no deceptions.
the thrust of life will be spiritual not material so i could see something
like a group of being getting together and meditating for a year as a group
on one spiritual virtue or their choosing
no wars no violence no crime no fear no a lot of stuff that makes life
miserable right now. i've given u a lot of no's but the possibilities for the
positive stuff that will exist are virtually endless.
heres one from my imagination there will be billions and billions of
crystal rivers of pure energy and when we drink from them we will feel
totally alive and at one with the universe. i think the possibilities are as
unlimited as our minds . essentially people will be living in a heaven as
compared to the way we live now

norral

[Peregrinus]

If you liked Kymatica, be sure to watch the Esoteric Agenda (prequel to it) as well. Also an excellent watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvp5BcICsig

There were many interesting concepts, one of them being that faith is a construct of those that do not want to think for themselves, that 87% of people don't care to think for themselves... in the sinkhole of indifference, meaning 13% do think for themselves...

Now, how many of that 13% choose to think for themselves and choose faith because they do think for themselves?

I therefore think the premise of the use of faith is flawed in the context they used it in, for even if those that choose faith that are following organized religion, the end of the path is for the better.

[ayadew]

Yes, at least I gets elitistic vibes from all the "thinking for oneself". We are all influenced by each other, one evolving being that is the Creator. Those 'stuck' in any kind of indifference are that because they want to.
You will never see a human being that is not governed by exactly what their self wants them to do. All is well.

[AnthroHeart]

Interesting, as the Ra material mentioned that in 4D that battles would still exist, but would be of the mind.

I imagine the experience will be completely different, where survival won't be our concern any longer. As Ra said, it's about ever-more subtle balancing of our energy system.

as i see it whatever bodies there are will not get sick. there will be
no poverty or great riches, no inequality, no lies no deceptions.
the thrust of life will be spiritual not material so i could see something
like a group of being getting together and meditating for a year as a group
on one spiritual virtue or their choosing
no wars no violence no crime no fear no a lot of stuff that makes life
miserable right now. i've given u a lot of no's but the possibilities for the
positive stuff that will exist are virtually endless.
heres one from my imagination there will be billions and billions of
crystal rivers of pure energy and when we drink from them we will feel
totally alive and at one with the universe. i think the possibilities are as
unlimited as our minds . essentially people will be living in a heaven as
compared to the way we live now

norral

[ayadew]

I do not know how to express this. I had a kind of 'channeling' experience with those of Hatonn, but my mind is quite filled with static. Today was a time where I was extremely focused though, and some clear visions and concepts came through. It might as well be my own imagination. There is little difference though, since all they do is send me concepts which I interpret myself. Thus all outlined below is not what they actually said, but what I literally think they said. All in all it was a profound experience.
In my time of darkness I asked Hatonn to tell me about Terra (4th density planet). I think they used another planet as an example, one they have experience of, but this is how it'll likely be in their thoughts:

Me: What is water like on Terra?

Hatonn: We bath together if we feel like it. All water is healing. We are naked together, and it's nothing special with as with your people. We wear what we feel like, and we wear nothing if we feel like it. All is beautiful. There is fish and plants in the water, and they are not dangerous in any way. You can swim down to them and hold your breath infinitely. You can sleep with the fishes, and they pull and caress your body. We make love in the water.

Me: What do 5th density entities do on Terra?

Hatonn: We do not know, but sometimes they make "fireworks"! *shows image of multicolored color of love on a clear night sky, and some people are lying on a beach looking up*.
They also maintain, balance and mend energies on the planet.

Me: What do 6th density entities do on Terra?

Hatonn: We do not know, but they "protect" (very unclear on this.. I don't think they have any idea really, but 6th density entities does something important)

[AnthroHeart]

Ayadew, that is fascinating. I've still wandered how our bodies will be in 4th density, aside from the "more dense" that Ra mentions in the channelings.

My meditation yesterday was somewhat intense, and I was fairly mentally exhausted all day today. Funny thing was, when I came down out of the channel I had, I had forgotten most of what was said, but I distinctly recall how I felt, and how my head moved when he/they were talking through me. Something about trusting in my power or the like.

I will see about asking those kinds of questions when I make contact again. It was a little draining, and I had the feeling as if being pulled upward, but still in my body.

[oguz]

for " space/time is illusion", i'd say yes. Everything which is down to spiritual realms or t/s realm is illusory. Because it's material and consists of not pure energy

[Cyclops]

I do not know how to express this. I had a kind of 'channeling' experience with those of Hatonn, but my mind is quite filled with static. Today was a time where I was extremely focused though, and some clear visions and concepts came through. It might as well be my own imagination. There is little difference though, since all they do is send me concepts which I interpret myself. Thus all outlined below is not what they actually said, but what I literally think they said. All in all it was a profound experience.
In my time of darkness I asked Hatonn to tell me about Terra (4th density planet). I think they used another planet as an example, one they have experience of, but this is how it'll likely be in their thoughts:

Me: What is water like on Terra?

Hatonn: We bath together if we feel like it. All water is healing. We are naked together, and it's nothing special with as with your people. We wear what we feel like, and we wear nothing if we feel like it. All is beautiful. There is fish and plants in the water, and they are not dangerous in any way. You can swim down to them and hold your breath infinitely. You can sleep with the fishes, and they pull and caress your body. We make love in the water.

Me: What do 5th density entities do on Terra?

Hatonn: We do not know, but sometimes they make "fireworks"! *shows image of multicolored color of love on a clear night sky, and some people are lying on a beach looking up*.
They also maintain, balance and mend energies on the planet.

Me: What do 6th density entities do on Terra?

Hatonn: We do not know, but they "protect" (very unclear on this.. I don't think they have any idea really, but 6th density entities does something important)

Thank you for sharing this, I am currently re-reading the material about the lower energy centers and the highers ones and the balance required. I was wondering if you can share the processes and of how it came about that these concepts were seen clearly? I do not wish to disturb the topic with off topic questions so if you would like please pm me. (Unless others are interested ofcoarse in this as well)

[ayadew]

Hello Cyclops. They were not seen clearly, and I myself sincerely doubt if it's genuine, but it's hard to make a difference when my rational mind is the one which translates the concepts and they are my own thoughts/distortions of whatever message they bring.

The first thing to learn is deep meditation. This is described in your own thread! http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=824
No thoughts. You wait, then you recieve thoughts, and you'll notice since when you're a good meditator they will not be the usual random thoughts that come up and disturb your meditation.
Also, you must ask for guidance/help/knowledge from positive entities and protect yourself from the negative.

When I feel communication, there's a big physical pressure on my third eye area. After a message is done my right ear rings clearly, like a slowly fading tinnitus sound.

I'm in a real learning process here, which I will not explore more currently, due to many reasons which I might outline in another thread. I wish you luck!

[Monica]

Big free Radiohead concert, first off.

Here it is...Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFTNy_UT...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8M-Moo4imQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqcbn0ieKU

[Soulmighty]

I am curious as to what people think will happen for those unprepared to move from 3rd to 4th density. I know that things are already accelerating. Being this is the case there is less time. Less time to make decisions, react to circumstances and generally less time to cope. Think of what our current leaders will do under these conditions or any leaders of any country. Make hasty decisions, jump the "gun" and/or not think clearly. This I believe is where anyone who is not prepared will feel the brunt of this change. This will be the rough spot. The several years of unrest we are about to enter. I welcome a discussion.

[unity100]

3d vibrations will apparently continue some time, thanks to the energy provided and maintained by groups meditating, wanderers etc. that is what quo says.

their problem may come up from not being compatible with the now settled 4d vibrations. things like cancer etc, heart attacks.

however, 4d entities have a more serious dilemma - in this state, they will have to live in a society which has a negative system and rather orange tinted consciousness, as 4d synced entities.

that includes everything from what you see in wikileaks to daily need for the fight of survival and all the self aggrandizement this system enforces.

[Ankh]

Has anyone here experienced 4D "body" and/or memories from 4D existence/"life"?

Once, when I was meditating, I felt something was coming. It is a certain feeling, like of a thunderstorm approaching, it thickens around, and then my body felt different. It was still my body, but it got more "dense", more solid, and that empty feeling inside that reminds me that something is missing was gone. Instead there was deep respect and "love" (but not the love we experience here on Earth in 3D, another kind, simply not "human") for everyone and everything. Nothing was pointless or without purpose. There was a deepiest meaning of all.

I am not sure of what it was and that's why I am writing it down here. My first thought when it happened was that I was experienced my 4D "body".
DOES anyone else have any kind of experience of it?

Another time while meditating I saw/felt beeing on another Earth. I was "human" but there was this different perception of the world, like beeing more "solid"/dense or compact - I can't find any proper word for it. I was "human" being and everything was similiar to Earth (and that's why my current brain probably could "translate" this information) but it was not Earth. There were creatures there that was not even close to "humans", they were something else, but they had consciousness, more or less close of the one I had, but it didn't matter. Everything and everyone in that world was still connected with respect. Though I didn't "belong" to many of those "creatures" since I was "human" kind there were still deep, deep respect (put like this - "though I don't understand you or know what you are or your purpose, nothing of it matters, what matters is that I respect you and I greet you, my brother!").

I am not sure here either what this image was about, but I always thought if this image being the last stop before the Earth. Before I found this information about Wanderers and words of Ra I had a lot amount of thoughts of being here now. And I thought that we advanced down from higher densities to "lower" like this one, to learn.

I thought that everyone did it, because I got some kind of impression that if a soul would descend to Earth directly from the One Divine Light then it would be too traumatic for the soul. So I thought of "4D" (if it was what I experienced) to be the "last stop" before coming to Earth...


There is another image/perception (that I am certain of being real) but I don't know if it is me being discarnated or if it is 5/6D. I am in the sky of Earth but I don't perceive Earth in "human" way, I feel complete and I rejoicing all in a way that is not even possible for a human. There is no body, I am "free", but there is still some kind of perception of "myself". There are no bounderies, but I am aware of "me". This one is difficult to discribe though.

Anyway, does anyone here have any experience/memories of 4D world/"body"??

[Turtle]

Once, when I was meditating, I felt something was coming. It is a certain feeling, like of a thunderstorm approaching, it thickens around, and then my body felt different. It was still my body, but it got more "dense", more solid, and that empty feeling inside that reminds me that something is missing was gone. Instead there was deep respect and "love" (but not the love we experience here on Earth in 3D, another kind, simply not "human") for everyone and everything. Nothing was pointless or without purpose. There was a deepiest meaning of all.

Your description of your experience closely resembles experiences I have had while meditating as well.

I recently awoke inside a dream and remember saying/thinking to someone next to me that "It's becoming easier to stay in 4d" or "It's becoming easier to perceive 4d". While communicating this to some other entity next to me, I was in the state of mind that I had just awoken from a dream...THEN, I woke up in my bed here in regular old 3d life.

I have a suspicion that the reason why I felt/remembered that I awoke from a dream, while still in one, is because I was going from actual 4d reality back into 3d time/space...and THEN back into my 3d space/time physical body...hence the "multiple awakening." I now think this effect occurs in the way it does, because we cannot accurately remember or perceive the higher realms with a mind anchored in a lower realm (think about a dog having a dream and in that dream it is a human with human consciousness..the dog wakes up and will still be a non-self-aware dog, and lose the true memory of what it is to be self-aware) so I wake up in my bed here in 3d remembering a step down process from one realm to another, with only whatever my 3d mind can interpret. The awakening sensation then would be a side-effect of shifting perspective from a higher realm into a lower one.

[Ankh]

Your description of your experience closely resembles experiences I have had while meditating as well.

I recently awoke inside a dream and remember saying/thinking to someone next to me that "It's becoming easier to stay in 4d" or "It's becoming easier to perceive 4d". While communicating this to some other entity next to me, I was in the state of mind that I had just awoken from a dream...THEN, I woke up in my bed here in regular old 3d life.

I have a suspicion that the reason why I felt/remembered that I awoke from a dream, while still in one, is because I was going from actual 4d reality back into 3d time/space...and THEN back into my 3d space/time physical body...hence the "multiple awakening." I now think this effect occurs in the way it does, because we cannot accurately remember or perceive the higher realms with a mind anchored in a lower realm (think about a dog having a dream and in that dream it is a human with human consciousness..the dog wakes up and will still be a non-self-aware dog, and lose the true memory of what it is to be self-aware) so I wake up in my bed here in 3d remembering a step down process from one realm to another, with only whatever my 3d mind can interpret. The awakening sensation then would be a side-effect of shifting perspective from a higher realm into a lower one.

Thank you, brother, for sharing!

Some things are not possible to bring "home" to current mind/brain and some are compatible to current existence for intellectual process.

I have great respect for the brain we are equiped with, the heavy vehicle and all these chemical processes, which are not able to grasp certain things. The question is if it is possible to train "human mind"/body to receive the stuff we have been through that are not "human" through some kind of "enlighting" process or if all of these experiences need to be transformed in some kind of human "alike-ness" to be understood by our current human consciousness?...

[Turtle]

No matter what, you will never get a common housefly to write a novel with pen and paper, even if you could somehow "make it understand" HOW to do so. It would need a much more upgraded vehicle (human form) to do it.

Also this...

Book 3, session 75

Ra: ...In the case of Wanderers which seek to recapitulate the degree of adeptness which each had acquired previous to this life experience, we may note that even after the forgetting process has been penetrated there is still the yellow activated body which does not respond as does the adept which is of a green- or blue-ray activated body. Thusly, you may see the inevitability of frustrations and confusion due to the inherent difficulties of manipulating the finer forces of consciousness through the chemical apparatus of the yellow-ray activated body.

Because of that quote, it seems pretty clear to me that even if I fully remembered how to levitate my body through the use of just my consciousness and willpower, that it would be exceedingly difficult to do so because of the 3d human body's architecture, so to speak.

[LightOfLove]

One must realize, in my theory, that the change will not simply come and take us over. We must meet the change halfway, we must do the things necessary for us to be able to handle the upcoming evolution of mankind. If we choose to practice on our telepathic communications and master them to our best ability, we will indeed be able to communicate with our thoughts to others who have also done this. Those who have not will not observe this and therefore not live in this part of the light. Fourth density Earth has already begun to occur. We are in the shift as we speak which is why time is becoming more apparent to all as a non-linear entity and people are realizing that "there is neither past nor future; only eternal now".

In my understanding, we are changing rapidly at this time in space. We are literally changing are physical molecular structure, our minds, our thoughts and becoming much more in tuned with our higher selves who are the eternal beings we crave to be at harmony with. From what I remember the fourth density to be and am seeing significant signs pointing towards those memories is a constant awareness of the social memory complex of the Earth (or the universe if we so choose to). Through this we are always in connection with our brothers and sisters of the cosmos whom we share a home with. Many things will start to occur that words simply won't explain or begin to put a dent in but we will feel it contained in our knowing (if such things can be contained in the first place).

The most important thing to remember is none of us are alone. No matter how cool or sweet it seems for each of us to believe that individually "I AM THE ONE" or that we are unique; we simply aren't. We are all uniquely the same. All a part of the puzzle. There are no spare parts in the scheme of things, everything is just as it should be. It is not the wisest decision to focus on the tomorrow for it is the now that will shape that tomorrow. Dwelling in the future or putting energy into it will undoubtedly leave the now untouched and unchanged which is fine if we are happy and at peace in this moment.

Love, Light and blessings.

[Peregrinus]

It is not the wisest decision to focus on the tomorrow for it is the now that will shape that tomorrow. Dwelling in the future or putting energy into it will undoubtedly leave the now untouched and unchanged which is fine if we are happy and at peace in this moment.

I would suggest that vibratory complex of sound is clumsy in explaining this and that it is my hope to clarify this passage.

In order to manifest, one must envision that what is desired is complete and whole in the now, and then it will become so in the future. For example, if I were desirous of rain, I would manifest rain by experiencing, in thought, the wet on my face, the smell of it in the air, on the grass, the sound as it began and became stronger.

There are factors involved in manifestation, but if one is unaware of them, they are unimportant. I shall end with one piece of advice. Intention is paramount.

[LightOfLove]

It is not the wisest decision to focus on the tomorrow for it is the now that will shape that tomorrow. Dwelling in the future or putting energy into it will undoubtedly leave the now untouched and unchanged which is fine if we are happy and at peace in this moment.

I would suggest that vibratory complex of sound is clumsy in explaining this and that it is my hope to clarify this passage.

In order to manifest, one must envision that what is desired is complete and whole in the now, and then it will become so in the future. For example, if I were desirous of rain, I would manifest rain by experiencing, in thought, the wet on my face, the smell of it in the air, on the grass, the sound as it began and became stronger.

There are factors involved in manifestation, but if one is unaware of them, they are unimportant. I shall end with one piece of advice. Intention is paramount.

Thank you for the clarity but it's not very important if the words aren't spot on. It's the understanding within the whole that matters. Sometimes a words doesn't explain a sentence, a sentence a paragraph and so on. It's the whole that when looked at, becomes simply perceivable. And also, that isn't what I meant my good friend. I meant that if we are so focused on tomorrow, it will never come. Take to thought what you may but it's not as complicated as you make it. It's extremely simple; so simple they couldn't sell it so they had to make it complicated.

Manifestation is simple. You desire something with an intention and if it is by the divine will, it occurs. There are always ways to bend any "law" for within the nonexistent, exists.

[AnthroHeart]

In my understanding, we are changing rapidly at this time in space. We are literally changing are physical molecular structure, our minds, our thoughts and becoming much more in tuned with our higher selves who are the eternal beings we crave to be at harmony with.

Even now, a year later, this is still true. Perhaps even moreso.

[Observer]

I see a really bright new world. Filled with light and love. Forgive me if I am a bit naive to think that. But thats what's in my head.
Namaste.

[fr33d0m]

My current belief is it will be as different from our present world as day is from night. We will be united in polarity, telepathic, and our love will be stronger and brighter than anything on the planet currently. Good times ahead.

[AnthroHeart]

Is it easier for everyone to perceive 4D now?