Subtle Body Energy Centers

[Plenum]

in this passage here, the secondary and tertiary physical energy centres are referenced, which as been explored in xise's thread here.

but there is also mention of the 'subtle body energy centres'.

58.3 There is great art in the use of the swung crystal. At this point in your development, you would do well to work with the unpowerful crystals in ascertaining,

not only the physical major energy centers, but also the physical secondary and tertiary energy centers

and then begin to find the corresponding subtle body energy centers.

In this way, you may activate your own inner vision.

are these subtle body energy centres directly overlaid ontop of the physical energy centres - ie the major chakras as we know them?

and I understand that Ra recommends activating one's 'own inner vision' ... but any thoughts from those who have travelled down this road before?

thanks.

[Unbound]

Isn't that just a reference to the emotional/astral body, mental body, causal body, etc?

[Plenum]

Isn't that just a reference to the emotional/astral body, mental body, causal body, etc?

yeah I think it is Tanner.

[Aureus]

inner vision = greater awareness of the energy body?

[Fastidious Emanations]

sub-sub-chakra..?
There are seven sections to each colour, right?

[zenmaster]

If they were directly overlaid then why the need to find them?
I've seen alternative health care practitioners use mudras (hand modes) as a diagnostic to provide focus and context for the energy feedback from the body.
This seems to be yet another way to do the same thing. The pendulum moves in concert between practitioner's intention and visualization and the client's available disposition. So to have the pendulum swing according to a particular body chakra, the practitoner must hold the corresponding modality in mind. It's akin to asking a question in order to get an answer. To abstract it another way, the practitioner sets up a resonant field (through particular intention) which is tuned to receive the vibration of the corresponding body layer and type of energy.

Each body has an extremly familiar pattern that people unconsciously use every day but perhaps never thought to distinguish as a separate information source.

[Plenum]

If they were directly overlaid then why the need to find them?

yeah, I guess it was a bit of a dumb question

but yeah, it makes sense that you hold the 'awareness' of the particular body in mind then one can interact with it via whatever methods/tools that one chooses to use.

or as you said:

"To abstract it another way, the practitioner sets up a resonant field (through particular intention) which is tuned to receive the vibration of the corresponding body layer and type of energy."

cheers.

[zenmaster]

Ra talks about "blockages" in chakras. Many times these are due to particular distortions held in place by the mind via emotional patterning - usually in the lower centers where opportunity for misunderstanding abounds. People have already figured out how to identify each and every emotional pattern by its signature. Once the emotion is identified, the healing treatment would be to have the client somehow be put into a position capable of addressing it. That is, to become consciously aware of the source of the pattern by drawing nearer to the emotion, in terms of time/space proximity, through memory recall for example, and then to acknowledge and to accept it. More subtle still are the mental and casual bodies, which are quite a way off most people's abilities to address.

[Plenum]

Once the emotion is identified, the healing treatment would be to have the client somehow be put into a position capable of addressing it.

That is, to become consciously aware of the source of the pattern by drawing nearer to the emotion, in terms of time/space proximity, through memory recall for example, and then to acknowledge and to accept it.

yes, this is an exceptionally powerful technique and totally effective.

I have been using it for some time now.

everything, quite literally, is rooted in the past.

reactivity in the present, is, in the majority of cases, really a reactivity to the past. (lack of acceptance at the original time in which the occurence/event occured).

[AnthroHeart]

I can barely feel my lower energy centers. Have no sensation of secondary or tertiary energy centers. But for what I've done, which is mostly mental, haven't needed them. And I'm not sure if I've actually accessed intelligent infinity, despite feeling a constant streaming in through my crown. I cannot yet walk the Universe with unfettered tread. But maybe that happens in time/space when I get there. I almost can't wait for that time, to finally have answers that elude me through the veil.

Bashar says the present is not the result of the past. There is only the present. Past is an illusion, so how can anything be rooted in it?

[xise]

It is the present's perception of the past that affects the present.

[BrownEye]

In some of my sessions a person will drop down into a childhood event that was perceived incorrectly, which caused the energy of the event to continue building up more energy to where it causes ill health as an adult.

[AnthroHeart]

Even though I had a childhood full of regrets (which I have since forgiven myself for), I have pretty good health. Just a little overweight, which is caused by my meds.