01-07-2010, 10:35 AM
Sorry if this sounds confusing.
After working with chakras, what would be considered next step?
... ?
After working with chakras, what would be considered next step?
... ?
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01-07-2010, 10:35 AM
Sorry if this sounds confusing.
After working with chakras, what would be considered next step? ... ?
01-07-2010, 02:34 PM
I think that there are so many levels with Chakras that it would be wise to keep working on reaching higher and higher levels with them. Though at the same time, you could apply positivity more and more towards daily events and relationships.
01-07-2010, 05:35 PM
(01-07-2010, 10:35 AM)carrie Wrote: Sorry if this sounds confusing. Hi Carrie, Nice to read you again. ![]() Meditation could be a good 'next step'. Actually, Meditation, Contemplation and Praying are all very worthwhile practices to regularly keep. Also, there is a very simple and easy thing to do. It is easy because it can be done any place and for any length of time, on and off at will. It consists of sensing a thread or a beam of light (whichever makes you feel more confortable) coming from infinite light and, entering your head from above. Feel that the light enters your head and circulates down your spine while you feel relaxed. Keep the awareness and presence of the thread or beam of light entering your head as long as you wish, while meditating, while doing your daily chores, etc. It will bring a confortable and joyful feeling. The more you do it, the better you will be at it. Just enjoy! Take care. L/L ![]() Whitefeather
01-07-2010, 10:01 PM
As I read the Ra books, I believe the next step is to meditate on the archetypes. Our ways to do this are through whichever way we choose from tarot (major arcana), astrology, or kaballah (sephiroh). Another next step is to be available in offering others opportunities for healing. These are both areas that Don and Ra discussed in depth over many sessions.
01-08-2010, 01:01 PM
You can work with your guides/angels and your higher self also. They communicate through dreams most often, if you ask them to. Learning to decipher your dreams could be quite worthwhile
01-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Book IV and Archetypes?
01-08-2010, 07:27 PM
Hi Carrie,
You could keep a dream journal. It gives powerful insights about what is really happening in one's life and, helps understanding things from a different perspective. One makes much discoveries yet it is easy and fun, one of my favorite practice! ![]() Love and Light W.
01-28-2010, 12:07 PM
Stillness, Timelessness, Oneness, and the big one, removing the veil between conscious and unconscious mind. Just to name a few.
04-13-2012, 12:38 AM
(01-07-2010, 10:35 AM)carrie Wrote: Sorry if this sounds confusing. carrie, I think the balance between the chakras is something that is always being continually refined. a deeper understanding in one area, then impacts understandings in other areas. for eg, a piece of general wisdom may affect how one decides to use personal or social power (orange or yellow ray). they are all interconnected. - - so I guess my answer would be: one is never finished working with the chakras lol.
04-13-2012, 04:25 PM
I think Plenum has the most accurate answer.
"Chakras" are energy vortex which configure and sustain your being. Therefore, one can always continue to balance them, as there in fact an infinite number of chakras. However, once one balances decently it doesn't take as much DIRECT work on the Chakras. However, at that point, it kind of depends on where you want to go. For me, don't "try to balance my chakras" so directly. Rather, I take the approach that I observe the balances in my life, knowing these are a reflection of my internal state which is articulated by my chakras. So I pay attention to my mood, my behaviours, the words I use, how I feel about people and the world, my sociality, how creative I am, how much I'm eating or exercising, etc and since every single one of these corresponds to a chakra center it gives me an indication of the way the various energies of the chakra centers are being manifested.
04-13-2012, 05:22 PM
For me, it's a task of how much I accept. When I feel particularly blocked in one chakra, I usually realize it's due to not being accepting of the energy.
That's good advice though about how creativity, eating, exercising and such correspond to the chakras. For me, diet is something I really need to work on.
04-13-2012, 08:28 PM
04-13-2012, 08:42 PM
Actually, I am not a vegetarian at all, but I eat a lot of chocolate... aha
04-13-2012, 09:16 PM
Go to Disney World.
Merge them, find a way to unify them so that you can not work anything else than all of them simultaneously (hint: its done through the shin).
Reach maximum quality (crystalization) for all chakras... Now keep increasing quantity untill you become a sun or singularity....
04-16-2012, 05:16 PM
(01-07-2010, 10:35 AM)carrie Wrote: Sorry if this sounds confusing. Hey Carrie, The chakras seem to encompass every nook and cranny of life, in waking and in the dream state, in the work of spirit and the work of the mundane, in the physical and the non-physical. All catalyst is processed through the chakras or centers of consciousness. To ask, "What is the next step after working with chakras" is, to me, like asking, "What is the next step after living life? What is the next step after life?" The chakras offer a model or a means of using life in all its many guises to more effectively know the self, accept the self, and become the Creator. : ) GLB Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
04-16-2012, 05:55 PM
Well said!
04-17-2012, 05:00 AM
(01-07-2010, 10:35 AM)carrie Wrote: After working with chakras, what would be considered next step? That all depends on where you want to go! If you're going for the spiritual, I'd suggest practicing a few of the spiritual values like patience and self control. If you're going for the yogic experience I'd suggest practicing projecting out of the body or telekinetic experiences. If you want to be the fastest person in the world. I'd suggest enlisting with NASA. ![]()
04-25-2012, 05:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-25-2012, 06:43 AM by Eternal_One.)
(01-07-2010, 10:35 AM)carrie Wrote: Sorry if this sounds confusing. Hello carrie, The work with the chakras is pretty much a constant one. As Ra stated, the mind/body/spirit complex is not a machine, but rather a tone poem. Here are the chakras and their area to be balanced as explained by Ra: Red Ray - Root Chakra - Survival Orange Ray - Sacral chakra - Personal identity (Ego) Yellow Ray - Solar Plexus - Social Relations Green Ray - Heart Chakra - Universal love / Compassion Blue Ray - Throat Chakra - Communication - Co-Creator - Radiation of Self Indigo Ray - Third eye Chakra - Awareness of the self as the Creator - Issue of unworthiness Ra - 49.6 Wrote:Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth. It should be noted that Ra really put importance on 'being balanced' in your energies center for many reason: harvestability, contact with intelligent infinity, etc... Activation is one thing, but balance is again another one. Now here is another source of information that could provide you more food for thoughts from another channelled entity - Bartholomew (this will be rather long): [to the admin of this sub-forum, I know this is not strictly LOO Material, but I feel the information is important; feel free to remove if inappropriate] Q: Why have you specified "twelve" strands? You have been told that there are seven chakras. I agree, but you a have at least five more. You refer to the seven as "chakras," and I refer to them as "strands." The seven chakras or strands that are most easily observed in the body are in the spinal area, and you are most aware of them when power is moving through them. These seven chakras concern survival, sexuality, balance, emotion, heart, will, and visionary perception, which move you into a higher state of consciousness. That which you call a higher state of consciousness is only the beginning of the movement into the next strands. In truth, you are an energy field that has at least twelve points of power. When you move into a state of harmony, it is because those strands are balanced. Once they are balanced and you leave the earth plane, more strands are then added to you. I can testify from my own experience that bliss can become even more blissful. Think of the increased power and joy you will feel when you have balanced another twelve strands. It is an ever-expansive, exciting extension, where you are given more and more power to balance. But you cannot leave the earth plane until you have the present twelve strands taken care of. If these were not balanced and you were given additional power, you can imagine the chaos that would take place. You would be a danger, not only to what you refer to as "yourself”' but what you refer to as to "others." So, to move from one state of awareness to another, you must have those powers in balance. This game was not set up to be a "mystery," but for mastery. I would again ask you to pay close attention to your own areas of resistance and in the moment of feeling that resistance, address the issue. You are not only the computer, but you are also the computer programmer. You have the ability to deeply understand what is going on within you. Please remember that you can know what you need to know, when you need to know it. If you think you can't, it means you are not yet willing to listen to your own wisdom. But, being human, you can never stay where you are, so change will come. The five additional chakras or "strands of power" I have been talking about have movement as an attribute. They activate and move through the seven more stationary "centers." They are in a state of constant motion and do not fit into the "straight line" spinal pattern of the seven chakras. When these powers move, they activate and interact with different parts of your psyche at different times. The survival chakra and the strand of trust, for instance, will have their turn at balancing each other. Thus, the strands and centers present many combinations and opportunities for you to balance your energies. The strands were not created on the earth plane and have nothing to do with form. They arise from the Source and are always with you. At the same time, they are useful in joining with form. You can use them to enliven and ignite those forms. The form will die, but the power of the strand does not. Aren't you glad the illusory thoughts and feelings you now have will not endure forever? Yesterday has already gone, as has a part of your own pattern. The pattern was born and enlivened by your power, and died when your power was removed. The form disappears and the power remains. Do the best you can to balance your own strands of power, and grant everyone else the same privilege. Trust that you and they are not moving at random. Whoever is in your life is there because the struggle to balance your particular set of strands was exactly the challenge you and they needed. __________ So here is the 'higher consciousness strands/chakras': 8. Aloneness Let us begin then; with the strand you would call aloneness. You have, in your present culture, lost the power inherent in the wisdom of being alone. You have confused this state with loneliness. When this strand is in balance, you will know that you contain all that you need within yourself and you do not really need anyone else. This does not mean that you cannot enjoy, fully participate with, and admire others, but you will know that you have the balance within your own being to stand powerfully and blissfully alone. You make your lives very difficult when you ignore this strand. This has become the age of "togetherness." You are together all the time, and even if no other body is around, you almost always have that universal mandala, the television, available to take the place of people. You need to experience the bliss that comes from being silently alone with yourself. If you ignore the power of this strand, you will stay in a state of needy imbalance in your world, constantly looking to others to make you feel complete. Even those of you who have been so wise as to construct your lives so that you are alone are in a state of ambivalence about it. You think there is something you are doing wrong, or you would not be alone. This very ambivalence is what impedes your learning. Instead of stating that you are alone because it is by being with yourself you can learn about yourself, you go around feeling lonely and left out. Continuing relationships that are no longer meaningful can create the fear of being alone. This brings about the imbalance that can keep you "stuck" on this strand. ____________________________________________ 9. Trust To learn about your imbalances, look to the thoughts that come to you and fill you with anxiety. For example, you might have anxiety about money. Some of you worry if you don't have it, and some of you worry if you do! Money is just today's symbol for security. What is the strand that lies behind the symbol of money? The ability to trust life is the strand that stands behind these anxieties. You have a deep feeling that "people are not to be trusted," that they do not have your best interests at heart. I would suggest an alternative view. Since you are all one ongoing flood of energy, moving, extending, creating, and becoming Aware, it would help to realize that you are all doing the best you can. You do not move in random patterns, but with your limited ego vision you cannot see the beauty of the overall design. If you could acknowledge that you are not moving at random, you would be able to see that others also are not. Can you feel the peace of that? If someone moves out of a pattern of intimacy with you and into another with someone else, be aware that this is not a haphazard movement. You are afraid that your life might become difficult when any of these patterns are broken. And so to feel safe, you try pulling whatever represents security back into your life. I am not asking you to trust that others will remain in your life forever or that you will never experience pain. I am asking that you trust that your universe is moving precisely in accordance with your own deepest needs. Whatever is here is present in power, and what is present is needed. If your patterns never changed, you would become very bored. You are here for the power of the ride, not for the sameness of the scenery. Please, learn to enjoy the changing scenery! Trust that everything is exactly as it should be. So many of you cling to the past to prevent changes in your lives. You talk about events long gone to avoid the new and "frightening" changes you are afraid might come along. These fears are only in your mind. Your deep Self will move you to where you need to go for the maximum experiences of your lifetime. I would ask you to trust that this is so. This strand of trust has the power to make your life ever new and exciting. ____________________________________________ 10. Wisdom Another strand that many of you have difficulty with is the strand of wisdom. You do not have to be an intellectual genius to balance this strand, because the balancing of wisdom has nothing to do with information you have spent a lifetime accumulating. Stored knowledge depends only on how much brainpower you have decided to use. The balancing of this strand has to do with understanding that true wisdom is the ability to observe and accept any point of view with equanimity. No judgment! Real "wisdom" is the inner knowingness that each individual is presenting his or her own truth from his or her own perspective. The wise one accepts this without challenge and feels no need to defend his or her own position or to destroy that of another. You do not feel threatened by the wisdom of others when your wisdom is in balance! Wisdom cannot be experienced through words or information found in any book, even in the greatest of them. Wisdom has to be lived. That means you go within and sense what is totally appropriate this moment. What is wise for you on Thursday may not be wise for you on Sunday because you are not the same person. Wisdom unfolds itself deeply within you when you begin to be responsible for finding your own truth, and do not impose it on anyone else. You are not being responsible when you feel what is true for you must then be true for others, and that your job is to reveal that "truth" to them. People have a hard time deciding who is the "wisest" among them, and many relationships are built on this struggle for "one-upsmanship." Wisdom is something to seek, and I highly recommend it, but I ask you not to measure its lack or abundance in other people's psyches. You do not need any outer agreement to validate your own wisdom. Trust your own inner feelings to show you your truth. ____________________________________________ 11. Responsability I would speak also of the strand that we will call responsibility. This is a concept that confuses many. You have been told that you are responsible for your life and for all that happens in it. You have also been told that you are responsible for not causing any inconvenience or discomfort to others and for moving with harmlessness through your world. This word responsibility and your concept of it can be frightening. You are afraid that things you have done will end up hurting both you and others. It is a great burden to feel responsible for all of the ultimate chaos that might arise from one of your decisions. You have a child, and you feel responsible for all that the child does throughout his entire lifetime. The child gets into trouble, and you feel it is your fault. You have a car accident that injures or kills someone, and you spend your life in guilt. You give advice that does not turn out well, and you feel responsible. It is endless. That is not the kind of responsibility I am talking about. I will tell you again that you do not move in random patterns. You move in one cohesive, beautiful, exciting, extending pattern of power. The responsibility of which I speak is the realization that, if you observe the movement of your life and do not like what you see, it is you who must make the changes in it. Growth comes through change; exciting growth comes through responsible change. You may not like your life, but you hesitate to make changes because you are familiar with the old patterns and are comfortable with their predictability, even though the patterns are no longer satisfying. I would remind you that you have, within your own being, the ability to make responsible choices, choices that will create a life pleasing to you. Just go within, ask and wait for the prompting that will lead you in a new direction. There are two extremes within the strand of responsibility. One side presents a person who wanders through life claiming no responsibility, always blaming others for their situation. The other presents a person who feels responsible for everything. Both are out of balance. Growth comes when you assess your life, see there is a need for change, and go within yourself to make that change. Any choice you have made, you can change. Accepting the responsibility of making your own choices in your life will give you the power to move in your world with strength and confidence. ____________________________________________ 12. Power in the manifest world There is one other strand I wish to mention- that of power in the manifest world. When faced with difficulty, some people tend to get depressed and discouraged, and some tend to feel falsely optimistic. This is the area of power or powerlessness as it manifests on the physical plane. When you are in a state of depression, balance can be restored when you realize that depression comes from power you possess, but are literally depressing. When you begin to feel depression, it is a signal to ask yourself what it is you feel is threatening you. You feel threatened because you are again afraid of change, and yet, depression can be an exciting signal that deep changes are about to be made. The changes you are most comfortable with are the happy and pleasant ones. If you were to live a life where there were only pleasant changes in it, the chances are you would get bored. Changes you have labeled unpleasant often move you more quickly to new areas in your life. It is the balancing of those strands of power that make life on the physical plane exciting. The person who is addicted to seeing only the happy side of life and admits to no negative experiences is avoiding an important teaching- the balancing of negative and positive polarities. You cannot balance something you cannot feel, and if you refuse to feel your fears or your so-called negative side, you cannot live life to its fullest. Those people who insist that "nothing is ever wrong" do so out of the unconscious fear that they would not be able to handle what might be "wrong." Balancing for them would mean a willingness to examine all feelings. In so doing, they will find deep reservoirs of courage and abilities that they have kept hidden from themselves. With this discovery comes the power to move in the manifest world with grace and beauty. Remember, you are never given more than you can handle. (04-25-2012, 05:14 AM)Eternal_One Wrote: As Ra stated, the mind/body/spirit complex is not a machine ~1% of the spectrum function exactly like a machine though... ^^ but rather a tone poem.
04-25-2012, 07:06 AM
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When chakras are aligned, I find reality shifts faster. So for me it's then about continually raising your vibration.
There's a song that says "standing on a razor's edge. Push it to the limit." Fine tuned chakras are like walking a razor's edge.
04-25-2012, 07:11 AM
TheEternal, amazing, amazing post, thank you very much for that. I knew that I will find the next step when I am ready to make it. Now I know where to move. (Not like balancing the seven chakras will ever stop, but hey : D)
04-25-2012, 03:45 PM
Ehe, it appears we have another Eternal One here, as that post was not mine.
Very good post, Eternal_One, especially for your first post!
04-26-2012, 10:24 AM
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04-26-2012, 02:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-26-2012, 02:06 PM by AnthroHeart.)
It's pretty interesting what you learn about yourself when you start to peek through the veil. I just realized my indigo ray chakra was on overdrive for the last few days, which was making things move too quickly for me. Closed it down a bit and am working on opening my heart more.
I've learned the point is not to shift as quickly as possible, but just to allow the shifting to happen naturally.
04-26-2012, 04:06 PM
I call this grounding back into the illusion. Or coming down to Earth.
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04-26-2012, 04:38 PM
(04-26-2012, 02:02 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's pretty interesting what you learn about yourself when you start to peek through the veil. I just realized my indigo ray chakra was on overdrive for the last few days, which was making things move too quickly for me. Closed it down a bit and am working on opening my heart more. There are no such thing as overactivity, only opposite-underactivity... If the foundation is proportional to the peak, the peak can be as large as it wish. |
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