New Graham Hancock Interview (& a 2nd New Interview!)

[Avocado]

http://duncantrussell.com/graham-hancock

Very awesome. He talks about his Ayahuasca usage, the Freemasons and how Ayahuasca forced him to end his marijuana habit. EDIT: And yes he talks about the pyramids!

I love that part because now I think my spirit-self forced me to do the same.


EDIT: Haven't watched yet but awesome C:

Graham Hancock and the Sacred Vine | London Real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUvPv_5-...ture=g-u-u

[native]

I've heard quite a bit of his interviews, and this was the first time I've heard him speak about what he believes the pyramids were used for and what kind of message they're attempting to convey. He was spot on: a self-initiatory consciousness-altering tool.

Ra has said there are time/space aspects of the pyramid involved in the design of course, and part of that must be related to the geometrical and astronomical relationships encoded within the design. Discovering these relationships begs deeper philosophical questions to be asked, which leads a person down a path of self-initiation Hancock says. I would agree, and that is providing healing on a certain level.

[AnthroHeart]

Ra also said "One may view the pyramid at Giza as metaphysical training wheels."

[Avocado]

What did you think about what Hancock said about the Freemasons?

I never considered that point of view and actually had a moment where I realized I never questioned my beliefs of Freemasons. I honestly don't know who they are, yet have been acting as I if do (internally).

[native]

From the little that I have read, as Hancock said, Freemasonry was created to undermine the fanatical bigotry and oppression of the church. A great deed in its own right. They believed people had the right to their own free will, and they obviously possess gnostic wisdom from Egyptian times. Ra speaks of foundations, building, the architect's square/right-angle, veils, sacrament..all symbolic concepts Masons learn about and discuss.

The following is often cited by others to show that they are Luciferian, yet the first sentence is always left out: "The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the nineteenth Degree, the Apothesis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, for traditions are full of sensual or selfish Souls ? Doubt it not!"

I can't find it, but I was reading how Masons recognize the allegorical role Lucifer played in bringing free-will. Ra agrees:

In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.

Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount.

[Oceania]

i read that Sirians were the serpent in the garden, they offered Eve free will.

[hogey11]

I love duncan's podcasts. I hope to go see him do stand up next weekend actually!

I really kinda wanna take some ayahuasca, but man... talk about intimidating... not for now

[Avocado]

Awesome hogey. I love duncan! I bet you're excited. I'm excited to see where he takes his stand up, after all he has a big heart and spiritual practice.

I feel similar about the ayahuasca. In time... in time... C:

[zenmaster]

Ra has said there are time/space aspects of the pyramid involved in the design of course, and part of that must be related to the geometrical and astronomical relationships encoded within the design.

Yes, and with "as above, so below", you see that the visualization of the pyramid may also be used to do work.

[native]

It's interesting isn't it..the pyramid's very beingness provides potential. Its structure has intelligence built into it, which could be one of the reasons why Ra says the "stones are alive."

[Avocado]

hmm I think I hear what you are both saying... I've been thinking the pyramid is like a giant elephant in the room in the face of humanity... and "as within so without" right? Some deny the significance of the pyramid beyond a mere tomb (who are blind to the fact that it's not a tomb) but for others it has opened up a whole new world. Some deny the significance of the passions of the spirit that dwell within, for others the acceptance of those passions has opened up a whole new world.

I have realized my attitude toward the pyramid has been something like "what a shame we do not have access to this" meanwhile the holiest of holies is inside. I'm reminded of Ram Dass expressing the importance of not getting caught in your method.

[zenmaster]

Well, after that world is opened up then what. Usually, for the passionate it's just a bunch of handwaving and jumping on the bandwagon of others with a similar interest and imitations of understanding. The difficult part is hardly finding something personally significant, it's creating something from the discovery or apprehension. Ironically, the denial is not due to lack of acceptance of some significance, but inflating significance to proportions which "place it on a pedestal" (of uncritical examination and adoration). It's like someone's special secret idea (of transcendence). Banal like much of the new-age fluff.

[hogey11]

zen, that is certainly one conclusion that can occur, but is that how it always goes? Why does the focus go on all those who have it wrong rather than those who have it right?

RA says one of the greatest roles that 'other' STO beings play in our lives is through bringing 'mystery' about - challenging us to think outside the box. Do you reject this? When I read these types of comments from you, I feel it stands opposite to the idea that mystery and the exploration of it can lead to so many amazing places. Am I misunderstanding you?

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I was thinking of passing on my copy of the Law of One book 1 to Duncan at his show.... Maybe he'll get into it

[Avocado]

"Usually, for the passionate it's just a bunch of handwaving and jumping on the bandwagon of others with a similar interest and imitations of understanding."

If I do this, it's probably limited to cyberspace and probably only this forum. Do I do this? I do not know. As we speak now, I'm growing through a phase of learning to be myself and being comfortable with it which implies the opposite of being on a bandwagon but this is a mostly meatspace-(turkey)based challenge. We all share an interest in the Law of One here but I don't feel anyone should understand it for me nor I they. Personally understanding it is an ongoing joy and pain. My understanding, like myself as a person, is constantly in flux. My main project in life is learning how to be and how to articulate my thoughts. Understanding the Ra material actually hasn't been my focus in life, now that I think about it. I guess my main focus is simply going through somebody training. If I act foolish on bring4th ever, well it's because I'm learning what it's like to be a fool. If I ever catch myself being foolish my most appropriate response would be humor cause fools are funny. I rarely do that however. I usually indulge feelings of self-consciousness and fear. maybe that can change now that I recognize this.

I think it is highly advantageous and catalytic for me to have interesting discussions with people who are not like myself. It's healthy to play with people who are different than me and actually listen. For me this requires forgetting everything I think I know. An exercise I'm not perfect at but continually working on.

phew for such a short post that took a considerable amount of effort. I am glad I went through with it. I needed some honest self-reflection on my own foolishness. wow I feel a lot better. I appreciate the catalyst Zen.

[zenmaster]

When I read these types of comments from you, I feel it stands opposite to the idea that mystery and the exploration of it can lead to so many amazing places. Am I misunderstanding you?

Never said that the idea can eventually, some time maybe, lead to amazing places. Or it is "wrong" for that matter. However, people typically follow the easy, extremely predictable path of little effort. And you can count on that.

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I appreciate the catalyst Zen.

I am here to catalyze and to agree or disagree with equally.

[hogey11]

@zen - so you're more warning of a common pitfall... I can deal with that. Thanks for responding.

[zenmaster]

@zen - so you're more warning of a common pitfall... I can deal with that. Thanks for responding.

It's a common pitfall. People need entertainment just as they need pain. People will often bring themselves to the cusp of transformation then begin to distract and to displace (displacement activity such as handwaving, for example). "When there is no progress those conditions which grant progress are gradually lost." And this applies especially to "awakened" individuals who are capable of knowing better.

"All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action."

[hogey11]

Duncan was great last night. Never stuck around long enough to pass off the book (there was a crowd in wait) but his stand up was funny. He threw in a Q&A session in there too; got in some political arguments. At the end of the show, he 'attempted' to channel an entity, and did some incense/chant/ritual type thing and 'failed' haha it was silly.

All in all, i'd recommend it!