2009-10-17 - Balancing Emotions, Insomnia, Jesus, 4D, Thinking Outdoors, Kangen Water, Brain Entrainment, Manifesting
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2009-10-17 - Balancing Emotions, Insomnia, Jesus, 4D, Thinking Outdoors, Kangen Water, Brain Entrainment, Manifesting
14:03:32 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Welcome to Carla's Saturday Chat!

14:03:54 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Please enter your questions in the "Ask Carla Here" Room, and I will be sure to submit them to Carla in the order they are received.

14:04:17 ‹Bring4th_Steve› We ask that you please only talk in the Chat room when Carla is following up with you on your question.

14:04:41 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Josh, thanks for asking how I am doing - I have been having fun with my writing projects. More

14:05:16 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I've started work on 101: The Choice - more

14:05:36 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Oops, that's 102! I already finished 101! LOL More

14:06:38 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I decided to do an article on Socialism, Obama and the Law of One for UPI this week - and had a marvelous time working with a counseling client yesterday whose difficulties involved psychic greeting. So I am rolling in fascinating concerns. More

14:07:48 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Add to that the great time I had playing hooky from the live chat last Saturday and singing a concert for the 100th anniversary of my church, St. Luke's, and then going to a lovely dinner-dance event afterwards for the church - I have had a ball. So Steve, what do you have for me?

14:09:29 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Josh was given the first chance at a question, I see, so I am copying his question now -

14:09:38 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Josh asks: I've been wondering for some time about "balancing" emotions. I think that somewhere in the LOO books, Ra says to find the opposite emotion within oneself of what one is experiencing to balance it (impatience/patience). I also recall that, from somewhere in the 1974 channelings of Q'uo (or Hatonn, not sure), Q'uo says to wait for the inevitable backlash from the spirit when balancing emotions. Could you please enlighten me as to how one would go about balancing one's own emotions in the most effective fashion(s)?

14:10:09 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Josh, typing on that -

14:10:55 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The instruction is not precisely to find the opposite emotion to what one is feeling but to allow it to come in as you hold the intensified emotion in your feelings and energy body. More

14:12:18 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› It takes a lot of grit and patience to wait for it to come in. But it has an inevitable path in, just as when you look right at the bright sun and then look away, you get a black ball of "sun" enter your vision, the complementary opposite. More

14:13:06 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So you go ahead and intensify the emotion on which you are working. When you are satisfied that it is totally intense, then you let up and invite its dynamic opposite. More

14:13:37 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And then you wait for it. It might take a good while. Just hang in there. Because you want an authentic experience, not just an empty exercise. More

14:13:57 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› This does work! But you need to go for it with patience and preserverence. More

14:14:31 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› One thing to recall in doing this work is that you are not trying to get rid of the emotions you feel. You are attempting to learn about yourself by examining them. More

14:14:59 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And as you learn more, you are respecting and honoring your emotions the whole time. There is no thought of dumping them or denying them. More

14:15:41 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Because they are your points of access into your own deepest self. I was just working with this subject today, writing 102. And here's the quote that I am talking about:

14:15:50 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› More - gimme a minute to find that quote -

14:16:20 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› "Purified emotion, whole and unblemished divine love, is the very axis upon which infinite intelligence built the myriad illusions which lead each imperishable soul along the path of inspiration, closeness to the one Creator, and an infinite capacity for compassion and service to others. Without emotion of a deep nature, the life experience lacks vividness, and it is more difficult for the seeker to make the choice of service to others or service to self with firmness of heart and intensity of passion."

14:17:24 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So a lot is at stake when you do these balancing exercises. Love is the emotion from which all other emotions stem, and you are working your way back to seeing each and every emotion as a highly colored version of love - divine Logos love! It is a wonderful effort to make. More

14:17:32 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Josh, do you have a follow-up?

14:18:06 ‹JoshC› Just wondering if you recall off the top of your head where in the LOO you describe the process of balancing emotions. Thanks [love icon] [light icon]

14:18:17 ‹JoshC› 101 The Choice, I mean.

14:18:52 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I do not have that level of recall by myself, but if you will wait just a minute, I'll bring up the final version of the mss and do a search for that - hang on.

14:20:26 ‹JoshC› I have to afk for a while, so thanks in advance.

14:22:49 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Sorry guys - had to log off and log back on. My version stopped sending what I was writing! Ack!

14:23:34 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK! Whew! Josh, read that chapter and then if you still have questions, I will be glad to focus on them at a later session. [love icon]/[light icon]

14:24:34 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Ok, our next question is from LoveWholeSelf: Was Jesus an ET?

14:24:56 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Hey LWS - short answer, yes. Read on...

14:25:58 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› LWS, Ra said that Jesus was a wanderer from fourth density. he was ready to graduate to fifth and before he did, he decided to take on the cloak of Christhood and offer himself as an incarnate being who demonstrated pure, true and unconditional love. More

14:27:01 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› It was interesting to me that his temptations were always along the order of ruling the world. That was Satan's big card. Jesus said, "Get thee behind me". Then Peter asked him not to go to Jerusalem and again Jesus said, "Get thee behind me, Peter!" More

14:27:49 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Finally, Judas, who was a good guy, but a political activist, tried to put Jesus in a corner, figuring that like everyone else, he would come out fighting.

14:28:28 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› He wanted Jesus to lead Israel in an effort to throw out Roman rule, and have a free Israel. Nope, not a new idea! More

14:29:18 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› But Jesus, who felt that "My kingdom is not of this world", asked Peter to lay down his sword. He turned himself over to his accusers, and was crucified. More

14:29:40 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And at the end, he prayed, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." More

14:30:20 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› In this way, he wove a story of unconditional love that will never be forgotten. Thanks for the question, LWS! [love icon]/[light icon]

14:30:42 ‹lovewholeself› I thought so; thx for verifying. It came to me from my inner channel few weeks ago; was shocked at first and it's taken some time to integrate/accept. But I love it. Clarifies so much for me.

14:32:13 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Our next question is from Wander-Man: Have you ever had insomnia? If so, what did you do about it? If not, what would you do about it? Thanks! [gift icon]

14:33:16 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK, Steve, but Deneb had a follow-up - What did Jesus do to blast the little boy with whom he was angry - let me take that first, as it is very short. More

14:34:01 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Deneb, I would guess he allowed energy to come through his hands - the opposite of the healing energy. But Ra does not say much about it, so I don't know. Now to WM's question on insomnia -

14:34:52 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› WM, I certainly have had insomnia. For about six years after Don died in 1984, I had chronic insomnia. And from time to time, because of physical discomfort, I always know there will be a sleepless night from time to time for me. More

14:35:33 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The first thing I do about insomnia is to accept it. I might get back up, get myself some tea and a good book and read for a while. Or if I feel like it, I might work on a project. More

14:36:40 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The second line of defense is an analysis of the probably cause of the insomnia. If it is sheer physical discomfort, I accept that I need to rest, so I turn on the TV and watch the best thing that I can find on the boob-tube. That relaxes the mind and the body follows. More

14:37:45 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› if it is an emotionally based insomnia, I might dig down and work on balancing whatever emotion I am experiencing that is disturbing my energy body. I look for where that emotion is coming from. I might analyze the situation that caused the emotion, trying to see into the energy transaction. More

14:39:05 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› it is easy to become frightened by one's own powerlessness over one's sleep, and take a pill. But I do not like to do that. I would rather ride out the emotional storm, as the Lieutenant did in Forrest Gump, sitting astride the mast and howling defiance! More

14:39:45 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Such moments are in their way gifts. They are part of the dark night of the soul, as St. John of the Cross called it. And they are gifts to be unwrapped and enjoyed. More

14:40:48 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So I wish you all good luck if you are sleepless! It will not last forever, and you can resolve the issues causing it. More

14:42:11 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Prayer is a huge help when working with sleeplessness. Insomnia is a kind of psychic greeting. And the answer to psychic greeting in general is to move into your truest self and take a stand. "I will serve the Creator with every breath in my body. Nothing can distract me or lessen my passion and devotion for the light, and being of service to the light - AMEN!" More

14:43:27 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Just don't back down because there's a bully on your playground. Get that tea, or do the balancing, or analyze the situation - but don't waste a moment in feeling helpless or victimized or sorry for yourself. Just dance with it in your own way. The dawn will come! [love icon]/[light icon]

14:43:48 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› is there a follow-up, WM?

14:44:47 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve, there does not seem to be a follow up. So what is our next topic of discussion?

14:44:56 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Yep, our next question is from Purple Shadow: Is it accurate to say that in 4th Density we will experience ourselves becoming the whole dimension? And if so, does this mean we are absorbing what we perceived as other-self from 3rd Density?

14:45:20 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Typing on that, PS -

14:46:16 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› In fourth density, we are aware both of the truth of our own thoughts, feelings and vibrations, and the thoughts, feelings and vibrations of all other life within fourth density. We become aware of and witness to a hugely expanded amount of data. More

14:47:29 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› But we do not become the whole density! We remain ourselves, within the nexus of our soul stream. We simply have a lot more intelligence concerning our situation, and we have an enormously expanded list of resources to choose from in seeking to serve others. PS, do you have a follow-up to this question?

14:48:38 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve, Purple Shadow seems not to have a follow-up, so if there is a new topic, we can move on - thanks, PS - [love icon]/[light icon]

14:48:56 ‹Wander-Man› Agh I lagged out - no follow up. Thanks Carla! [high five icon]

14:49:10 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› [flower icon]

14:49:45 ‹thepurpleshadow› Not right now thanks... thinking on it Smile

14:50:08 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK-doke, dear one! [flower icon]

14:50:31 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So Steve, my man, shoot!

14:50:31 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Brimann asks: Hi Carla I'm reading Choice 101 and your Wanderer Handbook and I'm half way through the Ra material.My question is what would life be like on a fourth density negative world and how would anyone graduate to fifth density from such a place?

14:50:54 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK, Brimann, typing on that -

14:51:35 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Actually, this is not something I have ever thought about! So bear with me here. I would think that it would be very much like two things - 4-D positive and the army. More

14:51:57 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› In 4-D we have that expanded awareness, and know the skinny on ourselves and everyone else. More

14:52:23 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› But the "path which is not" denies the heart, and therefore denies equality. More

14:53:19 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So everyone would be establishing a pecking order - a chain of command - in 4D-negative. And then those on top would be accruing as much power, money and influence as possible by using those below them in the pecking order as efficiently as possible. More

14:54:16 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I remember when Don asked Ra what Genghis Khan was doing now. It turned out he was a shipping clerk. Kinda scary to think that the man who wiped out like 25% of China's peons at one point was in company with dudes badder than he was! More

14:54:50 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› In a way, Genghis probably thought he was in heaven! Because he had a chance now to learn STS from real masters of that game. More

14:55:16 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Do you have a follow-up to that, Brimann?

14:56:15 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK, no follow-up, so thanks for the question Brimann - [love icon]/[light icon]! Steve, next question?

14:57:52 ‹deneb› Thanks Carla

14:58:07 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Our next question is from Carrie: at which density would we be able to create a 3rd density illusion?

14:58:42 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Typing on that, Carrie -

14:59:14 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Carrie, I do not think we as individuals will ever be in a position to create a creation. More

14:59:41 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The densities are created all at once in potentiation by the one infinite Creator, according to the Confederation. More

15:00:33 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Then they come out of timelessness in mid-first density and begin to unroll the scroll of the story of this creation. it takes a long time, and is created from the desire of the Creator to know Itself. More

15:01:10 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› What we can do, however, is create our own version of third density. it is a malleable illusion. It is more like a dream than we usually are aware. More

15:02:06 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› It is highly vulnerable to strong desires and intentions. So in our own lives, if we decide to remake our little creation, we can, by how we choose to take the things that are occurring to us, choosing how to respond, finding ways to express love. More

15:03:30 ‹Eddie› Howdy, all! Sorry I'm late.

15:04:03 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I am a total fan of setting one's intention and living intentionally. It makes a big difference in my life that I set my intention each morning to dedicate this day 100% to the Creator. I ask for all help in being engaged, impassioned and inspired by the spirit to serve the light. And by golly, my days seem to offer me much more clarity of perception than they used to. Does that answer your question, Carrie? Or is there a follow up [love icon]/[light icon]

15:04:14 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Hey Eddie! Howzit goin?

15:04:31 ‹Eddie› Two thumbs up. [thumbs up icon]

15:06:49 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› While I am waiting for our worthy moderator to feed me the next question, I want to note the synchronicity between what I was working on just this afternoon, after lunch, and our first question of the day. They were both on emotions! How cool is that! ®

15:07:01 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Carrie follows up with: Would there be others able to potentiate a 1/2/3/4th level density?

15:07:55 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Carrie, typing on that -

15:09:24 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Carrie, all Players who have begun to do work in consciousness can work on creating a portable 4-D environment. We at L/L Research do that quite consciously every day. it does not mean going all goody-goody. It means treating each other with true affection and being a safe place for each other here at Camelot. Those of you who have been here for Gatherings or visits know that it is wonderfully possible to do that! More

15:10:03 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Of course, we upscrew all the time! But we just forgive each other and give it another go. LOL! <:o)

15:10:58 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The great benefit of more than one person in a group doing this is that you can create a bigger lighthouse, the more people you have in your group of those so doing. Carrie, does that answer your question? [love icon]/[light icon]

15:11:36 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Carrie says: I would say, yes. - Carla - thank you

15:11:50 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve, ready for another topic, if we have one in the shoot!

15:12:09 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Carrie, you are most entirely welcome and loved! [flower icon]

15:12:17 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Carla, this one may have accidentally been skipped earlier: From LoveWholeSelf: In your August 4 special meditation, you said u needed to go into some of deepest challenges of human experience to gather material for 102. Do you want participants to give you experiences in the muck/sort of a case study type thing? If yes, how do I contact you?

15:12:44 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› LWS - typing on that!

15:13:25 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Dear one, although at one time I would have said, yes, bring it on- I no longer have direct access to what is in the L/L Research Inbox. More

15:14:27 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› When I was trying to answer each letter myself, I never got any creative work done. Finally I made the decision to bring in an admin, and now Gary fields the mail. If you wish to share some experiences, you'd write Gary at contact@llresearch.org. More

15:14:53 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› However, what I meant by that was [the experiences I see are] internal to me. How is that for self-involved, eh? More

15:16:23 ‹lovewholeself› That's understandable it took u away from creative work. OK. Thx.

15:16:42 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› You see, I have been working with balancing and being present with catalyst for decades now. I tend to reverse-engineer responses. Catalyst comes in, and with a quiet "ouch!" I ask myself "Where is the love in this moment?" And I work from there as to how to respond. So I only barely register the discomfort of incoming catalyst. I am so eager to play the Game of Life - I just jump in with both feet to find ways to enlarge the love in the moment with my response. More

15:17:24 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Well, that is fine for me! But for the typical reader of 102, I needed to get more real with my honest, spontaneous and sometimes very painful and dark reactions to incoming catalyst. More

15:18:33 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I needed to have an authentic voice talking about dark times and dark emotions. I have had horrible things occur to me, and undergone the most intense suffering. What I needed to do was to access that directly, not through a screen to spiritual work. Because most readers of 102 do not have that screen in place yet. More

15:18:51 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I asked Q'uo how to deal with this, and Q'uo simply advised me to write outside. More

15:19:28 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Well, I am a fragile flower! [flower icon] When I am outside, I am uncomfortable. there is no chair made for outside which will recline me just as I need to be to be comfortable. More

15:20:11 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And then, it's either too hot or too cold. And it smells of this and that, some great, like the leaves, some awful, like the skunk we had in the yard. [face sticking tongue out icon]

15:20:42 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And then I get bitten a lot any time I am outside. And the bites itch abominably! [frazzled face icon]

15:21:23 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Well, by golly, two things have convinced me Q'uo was right. The first thing was, the first time I went outside, going down the stairs carrying my computer, I got a stress fracture in my right foot. More

15:21:49 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I had no question in my mind that this was a psychic greeting. The loyal opposition did not want me out there. More

15:22:30 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› The second reason I know Q'uo's advice was good was that out there, all the confusion I had about how the heck to start this book resolved. I immediately was given a clear picture of how to begin and go on. More

15:23:06 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› So it started working right away. Now it's getting cold, and I am determined to stay with the outside writing through that, until I have finished writing about the emotions. More

15:23:35 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Then I think I can take it inside. Does this answer your question, LWS? [love icon]/[light icon]

15:23:48 ‹lovewholeself› Yes. Oooh I love that -- jump in with both feet to find ways to enlarge the love in the moment with my response. I'm going to try that. THX!

15:24:20 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› U bet, LWS! [flower icon]

15:24:40 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve, have we a new topic?

15:24:59 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Yes indeed! We continue with a question from Purple Shadow: When is the veil of forgetting gone?

15:25:20 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Hey Purple! Typing on that -

15:26:07 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Firstly, the veil of forgetting will have left as we leave third density and drop these heavy, chemical-distillery bodies that veil us so thoroughly. More

15:26:56 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Secondly, the veil can become much thinner even within third density as we attempt to live the Law of One and play the Game of Life. More

15:27:52 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› We know - by faith alone - that when the veil lifts, all men and women will be our brothers and sisters, one in the Creator, creatures of love and possessed of one single consciousness - the consciousness of love. More

15:28:39 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Our whole effort as Players is to lessen the difference between our vibration and the vibration of unconditional love - the Logos, the one infinite Creator. More

15:29:50 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› And we know how to approach the Game. So we can more and more gain an experience of the veil's being gone by acting as though the veil IS gone. And loving everyone at the soul level, even as we deal with them on the flat gameboard of the human level. Do you need to ask further on this, Purple?

15:30:50 ‹thepurpleshadow› So how do you introduce people to the game who tap on you for information and are just beginning their query?

15:31:22 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Purple, typing on that -

15:32:33 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Purple, I ask them to check out the first three chapters of 101 online, and if they like the book so far, I ask them to buy the book and read it. I put two and a half years into talking about the Game of Life in a really careful and logical flow, so it's better for them to read the book than any other way. [love icon]/[light icon]

15:33:00 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK, Steve, what is our new topic for discussion?

15:33:13 ‹thepurpleshadow› Got it... many thanks.

15:33:17 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Our next question is from Deneb: Quote "Ra: ...Equally to be balanced is the withdrawal from the need for these natural functions with regard to other-self. On the one hand there is an excess of love. It must be determined whether this is love of self or other-self or both. On the other hand there is an over-balance towards wisdom". what does "withdrawal from the need for these natural functions with regard to other-self" mean?

15:33:50 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› U R so welcome, Purple![flower icon] Deneb, typing on your question -

15:34:38 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Deneb, right off hand I need to see the context. Can you tell me where in the LOO sessions this comes? What date is the session you are referring to?

15:35:00 ‹deneb› Session 61 of the Law of One, July 8, 1981

15:35:26 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK, Deneb, let me bring that up and take a look-see - might take me a minute -

15:39:26 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Deneb, this is all about the balancing exercises. Sometimes we feel the need to withdraw from natural functions in order to have the spiritual focus we want. Withdrawing from sexual intimacy is a good example here. Say you decide to become celibate to aid your spiritual seeking. is this a balanced or unbalanced decision? Ra is saying examine your life. Remember their direction to "know the self, accept the self and become the Creator." So you would be looking for red-ray blockage, because of shunning the sexual life. More

15:41:08 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Other examples could be found - dropping the habitual way of eating is another good one. But are you dropping the eating because you want to be holy, or because you are having fun with and are into improving your diet? if you're rejecting eating to be holy, then that is unbalanced. Sacredness extends to the eating! But if you just want to clean up your act and be good to your body, which your dearly love, then that seems pretty balanced. Do you see how Ra meant that now?

15:41:59 ‹deneb› yes

15:42:55 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› While we wait to see if Deneb has a follow-up, Steve - I want to tell you to please pass my thanks on to Monica for the Kangen water she sent home with Gary. I am sipping on a little of it now. Give Monica my love! And for Deneb, OK, good![flower icon]

15:43:08 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve do we have a new topic?

15:43:17 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Oh, that was from me, Carla!

15:44:30 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Oh! Then you must have acquired a Kangen water maker! Man how sweet! I am hoping people will buy lots of them from Monica and thereby I eventually will get one for free - the only way I can personally afford that machine! [love icon]/[light icon]

Note from Bring4th_Steve: If you want to help Carla while also helping yourself, check out this forum thread on Kangen water machines:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=443

15:43:35 ‹deneb› So we must focus more in the creator within rather than functions with regard to other-self

15:44:57 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Deneb, typig on your follow-up!

15:45:53 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Deneb, yes and no! Yes, we need to focus on the Creator within, in order to see the Creator outside of us - in other people, in the world of nature and in the world of thoughts and ideas. More

15:46:32 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› However, no, in that our whole primary battery of resources is the range of our relationships. More

15:47:24 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Everyone whom we meet is a mirror for us, as spiritual beings. We reliably know that all of us are at base one thing, and the same one thing: the Creator. So we can trust the mirrors around us to be telling us their truth. More

15:48:04 ‹deneb› But we must be free from any need from other selfs , so that we feel more freedom and love-I think I got it

15:48:39 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Consequently, if we are inspired to share our natural functions - sex, fellowship and affection, sharing collaborative work for the light, whatever - we need to be very present with the exchanges of energies between ourselves and others. Does that answer your question?

15:49:10 ‹deneb› yeah

15:49:17 ‹deneb› thanks

15:49:31 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Great, Deneb! [flower icon] OK, Steve, what is next in the pipeline?

15:49:40 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Alrighty, our next question is from Wander-man: Do you recommend binaural beats or audio tracks like Holosync for meditation?

15:50:47 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Typing on that - had to look up what they were!

15:51:23 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› WM, those types of meditation aids have been around a long time, I remember back in the 60s, experimenting with an entraining device. More

15:51:40 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› There are some folks who swear by them. I am not one of them. More

15:52:35 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› As far as I know, there is no real danger involved. Such resources simply help the brain waves to modify and become entrained to alpha, beta or theta or whatever subcategory is preferred. More

15:53:14 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› To me, such a mechanical approach lacks inspiration and so I do not use it. However that does not mean I think it is bad. It is just not for me. More

15:53:34 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› I like the feeling of getting wherever I am going entirely on my own. More

15:54:58 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› However it could be argued that since I tune before I meditate - praying, dedicating my time, singing and so forth - I am using a kind of modifying brain-wave resource that is internally generated - so it could be asked, what is the difference? I guess in the end it is a matter of opinion, WM - is there a follow-up, and if not, Steve, is there a question before time gets the better of us?

15:55:17 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Eddie comments: !!!Oh_Oh_Oh!! That brings up a great IDEA. Why don't we all plan a group getaway to the Monroe Institute?

15:55:51 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Now there is an idea! Thanks, Eddie! [flower icon]

15:56:00 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Eddie also asks: I'd like to know if L/L Research has any gatherings around the Christmas holidays.

15:56:15 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Typing on that, Eddie -

15:56:42 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Eddie, we do not have an official gathering scheduled for the holidays. More

15:58:34 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› However, we have weekly Saturday night public meetings right through the holidays, and they are open to the public. At times in the past we have had a whole lot of people decide to come here for that time of year - some to ask questions about Jesus, some to focus on new ways for the new year. Such meetings have the feel of a Gathering! And sometimes people have stayed over and we always accommodate those who want to meditate extra during their visits here. So in a way, we do have Christmas get-togethers! [love icon]/[light icon]

15:58:51 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› Steve, it's final-topic time! Got one?

15:59:08 ‹Bring4th_Steve› Nope, we finished up just at the right time!

16:00:49 ‹Bring4th_CarlaLisbeth› OK-doke then - I am off to take a bath and welcome three visitors from out of town - two from southern KY and one from NJ - who have come for tonight's public meeting. It has been such a delight to share energy with you all! As the Confederation would say, I leave you in the love and the light of the One! You guys have fun and I will catch you not next week - it is a teaching weekend here - but the Saturday after that! [love icon]/[light icon] xxx
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