Questions about rays and vibrations

[Raman]

I am having some difficulty with this:

We know that there are energy centers and that these (chakras) are represented by different vibratory levels based on color (or the vibratory state gives that property).

These centers are present in potentiality and only activated depending on the density state.

So, yellow energy body will represent 3rd density in space-time but also has it time-space co-relation as well,at least partially --need to think about this last part too.

Then 4th density (positive) is green...the 4th density (negative)...is it a mix of orange-yellow vibration...? Since there is no green or blue?

Then 5th (positive) blue...5th (negative) again orange-yellow of a different quality?

Then in 6D negatives will have to balance and acquire green-blue?

The correlation is not that clear.

Since it appears that time is outward expansion of the photon? space/matter inward rotation?

What is the vibrational core of 4D-5D negative?

[3DMonkey]

Your questions are spot on. I don't know if Ra provides any of the answers.

I know that 4D neg tries to bypass green but in turns into love for the self. I suppose this is green?

Have you looked up the definition for "potentiation"? It's interesting. It has nothing to do with potential. When I first read LOO, I assumed in meant waiting to be used.

Maybe it's like Dark Green and Light Green for neg and pos. "?"

[kycahi]

When I read Ra, this area was puzzling then and still is. I struggled with the material and, as I respected the source enough to accept it on faith, tried to make some sense of it.

My current thinking is that so-called negative STSers do get into the green level but, having chosen STS, they express their 4D compassion by having others follow them literally. They set themselves as holier-than-thou leaders instead of fellow strugglers on a path. They can't directly lead 3Ders because 3D beings and 4D beings seemingly live apart. Maybe they can be, to 3Ders, troublesome discarnate entities, but I don't have a strong opinion about that.

When some of the 4D STSers (but not all because of the extreme difficulty of this path) achieve sufficient polarity to get to 5D, they could have a kind of blueish wisdom, I suppose, tinted with orange and dimmed by yellow. They use this 5D negative wisdom to continue their enslavement of those followers that stuck with them, to increase the polarity of themselves and their followers and perhaps maintain the craziness around the poor suckers in 3D who haven't made their Choice yet. They would do this by offering misleading information through bumbling channels.

This is a lot of supposition on my part, obviously, and I don't present it as hard fact or even as near-certain guessing. In the manner of the scientific method, where you make a hypothesis and then try to prove or disprove it, I made these guesses and now look through the LOO for any indication that they are consistent with it.

I do this for my own curiosity and don't think that this data is particularly useful. It's just an exercise.

[Unbound]

Wait, would we be able to tell the density of a system by the colour of its primary star? Hmmmm

[3DMonkey]

yellow sun, you mean? It would need to be an entity's perspective. Systems are not one density at a time.

[Raman]

Have you looked up the definition for "potentiation"? It's interesting. It has nothing to do with potential. When I first read LOO, I assumed in meant waiting to be used.

Maybe it's like Dark Green and Light Green for neg and pos. "?"

What i understand by potentiation is "it is present but not given power yet..", basically "presence" but not empowered. However, i think this applies mainly to the rays above yellow since we are in 3rd density. The lower rays are "already potentiated/activated" not as much as yellow and an orange ray becomes easily activated whereas a green or blue ray is much more difficult. Some accommodation appeared to have been made to jump from orange/yellow to indigo in the case of negative polarization and that is why it is required 95%?.

It seems to me that since the negative path is something relatively new in this galaxy, some "accommodations" were made?

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Wait, would we be able to tell the density of a system by the colour of its primary star? Hmmmm

Still this is interesting since beginning in 4th density entities are able to discover the real nature of the sun and i wonder if the sun would be a different color to the 4d's here...I mean, the light is stronger and the sun's radiation is different now and growing day by day.

Also, blue stars are older than red/yellow according to Larson if i remember well. I mean, it is the opposite of what the "official academia" of astronomers says.

Those are interesting thoughts Azrael.

[AnthroHeart]

The sun takes up the full octave. So it's not limited to a single density.

Wait, would we be able to tell the density of a system by the colour of its primary star? Hmmmm

[3DMonkey]

GW, what does it mean when Ra states "octave of third density"? "octave talk" confuses me

[AnthroHeart]

I find that Ra uses Octave and Density interchangably. There are 8 densities within a Density, so Ra sometimes refers to that as an Octave.

But as for the Sun, I believe it's the full 8-density Octave.

[kycahi]

Recall that a musical octave starts and ends with "do." This means that the eighth note is the first note at twice the frequency. So really the musical scale has seven distinct notes/frequencies/vibrations and a repeat of the first one as also the start of the next octave.

Ra said, or at least hinted, that the seven densities repeat themselves and, IMHO have seven levels within. In other words, this 3rd density for us humans has seven levels within it and is the third part of a larger grouping. Ra themselves are long-time natives of this "octave," having reached 5th or 6th density (I forgot at this moment), but they talk of other ones. So they might easily say "third density octave" meaning our multi-level density, or hinting at the larger octave that goes on past the one that they are closer to completing.

As I have posted elsewhere, this multi-octave theory is an example of my musing methods of digesting their information. I always want to say this when I don't pretend to state something as hard data from Ra. Maybe they said it specifically, but I don't recall now. I need to re-read all five books.

[3DMonkey]

I think I'm beginning to see. Like there are eight notes within third density? Third density is a note with the octave of eight densities? Both are referred to as octaves?

Another question: would all the thirds of an octave of an octave of densities make up an octave, or is this something different?

[kycahi]

In my working theory, each lifetime goes through stages of consciousness that match the primary colors. Of course, we don't always live long enough to get through all seven in a particular lifetime. Hence, successive lifetimes may get past first lessons/experiences sooner in order to get to the later ones.

And how long do each of those levels take? IMHO seven years each, with each of them corresponding to the primary colors too, although this gets a little stretchy.

I suppose I can consider this 3D as the first note and look forward to 3D of the next octave as a fulfillment, but it's bad enough to realize that I'm at level 3, let alone at level one . I don't consider that concept as useful, at least to me, but I'm open to any theory.

[Unbound]

Yes, you're right that the Sun is all densities, however in 3D we only perceive a particular facet of it. So of course this would be dependant on our being in 3D to perceive the Sun as it is now, but that just means we are experiencing a phase.

Also, that's a good question, 3D. In music an "octave" is any note to itself. So the octave of the key of A would be A B C D E F G A, for D it would be D E F G A B C D. So, if we have 3D, divided in to 7 levels, that means there will certainly be an octave between each level. So Level 1 3D will go to L2, L3, L4, L5, L6, L7, then L1 again, and this can be applied the same as say Level 3 would go to L4, L5, L6, L6, L1, L2, L3. Interesting to note that since this is a repeating pattern there indeed would be an "octave" of third levels in third densities. 1D L3, 2D L3, 3D L3, 4D L3, 5D L3, 6D L3, 7D L3 and 1D L3 once again, in the next octave and octaves below this. This same pattern can be applied nearly infinitely to the densities.

I'm going to start another thread on this topic.

[3DMonkey]

Wow. Cool. That's a new one.