(07-28-2022, 06:46 AM)J.W. Wrote: Although I can see Kraken's approach could be "abrasive," but it is a perspective outside the "die-hard" followers/believers/knowers of the channeled materials.
As a professional therapist and counselor,
The messages and responses from the the "veteran members" on here always comes across to me with the same respect as any religious members of an Earthly religion.
Try questioning a Mormon about Joseph Smith (their founder/prophet) and you will get similar responses.
"How dare you question what we "know" is true?? you don't know them, keep your opinion to yourself."
"Stop asking questions, be grateful of our 'prophets' and the spiritual knowledge you received" etc. etc.
Instead of a confrontation and direct responses as above, you get a layer of thickly coated "play nice" guidelines on top of what is actually said.
Perhaps there are some members here who treat the material as a religion (not uncommon human behavior). But this view of "veteran members" is rather narrow I think. If this refers to Patrick's idea that the subject matter rather than the members be discussed, I concur that this is a good idea. Not because I am a sycophant or blind follower, but because it is basic common courtesy and really not constructive to focus on that which is not on point.
A good example for me regarding this, and one which helped me focus, was the "meat" threads. This is an emotionally charged subject for me due to the unnecessary suffering we as a society cause animals. In endeavoring to stay focused on the subject rather than falling into the trap of judging those who can't see/feel what I see/feel, I greatly expanded my understanding of the subject and this helped me to see the issue from a wider perspective. I wasn't perfect of course, and I fell short a lot, but honing focus to what matters is something I see as efficacious.
On the other hand, I know what you mean about glazing over subject matter with "nice" talk. It can be shallow and effectively act like a sheet of positive thinking over a lake of catalyst/raw truth. In addition, the world today after two+ years of nonsense by those attempting to control the world (sounds melodramatic but I don't think it is) does highlight the need to look beyond the surface where some ugly truths may lie—and then decide, after facing the truth, what to do about it if anything. In any case, what we do and all that flows from us as individuals is our own responsibility and we are accountable to it.
Regarding Don, and I have said this before, there is no way to know that story or analyze his demise or as he may have seen it, his chosen exit from this world, when we can't possibly know what really went down and all of the details and his whole life, Carla’s whole life, and Jim's whole life, all of which play a part.