Ha ! 'Slackers', 'lazies', 'losers' ...

[unity100]

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1225.aspx

i was going to bring it up in some other topic, but it is quite well put here :

This is counter to the work ethic of your culture. It is seemingly obvious to casual thinking that entities who come from other densities to the earth density to serve are coming to serve in an outer sense. But, my sister, this is often not the case. Indeed, the majority of those who come from elsewhere to Planet Earth come to lighten the consciousness of Planet Earth by holding their hearts open and allowing the love/light of the one infinite Creator to move through their energy bodies into their hearts. And when their hearts are fully open they are able to bless that energy and send it onwards, not only with the infinity of the Creator’s light but also with the very specific blessing of one spark of the Creator, which is that wanderer on Earth. As that wanderer moves through all which it must move in order to keep the heart open and to bless that light and dedicate it to the service of the entire planet, that wanderer is fulfilling his purpose completely.

quite as such. a lot of the people so doggedly and stubbornly rooting for various activities (most of which, are in self-interest classification i might add) are probably using/mooching off the energies these 'slackers' are bringing.

[Ocean]

it's a tough subject. our culture is so physically oriented someone who is doing a lot of inner stuff is seen as a slacker. then that person learns themselves that they are a slacker and feels worthless.

[unity100]

and yet, those who are projecting that energy model onto that person, either directly or through the biases of societal mind, keep mooching off and enjoying the energy that slacker lets them use ...

what a wonderful web of ..... thievery.

[Ocean]

i think it's freely given by the slackers, on a higher level, and people don't even know if they are receiving those energies, so it's not stealing.

[Confused]

what a wonderful web of ..... thievery.

From the perspective of the wanderer, it may be seen as unconditional love and loving sacrifice for upholding the will of the ONE.

[BlatzAdict]

what a wonderful web of ..... thievery.

this is a very victim style approach to looking at it.. we wouldn't of come to incarnate here if we didn't know that already.

whenever someone bumps into you, or whenever someone stands near you it is well to consider this is what we are here for. why feel hurt or angry when u need to stop looking at it from the perspective of what they are doing to you, but look at it from the perspective of what you are doing to them unbeknownst to the unawoken.

They are trying to match your level of energy and love, and don't even know why. Society trains them to think otherwise however subconciously they know the truth, whether they admit it or not. It is quite beautiful when you start to accept it for what it is.

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From the perspective of the wanderer, it may be seen as unconditional love and loving sacrifice for upholding the will of the ONE.

i wholeheartedly agree.

[Namaste]

An excellent quote, one that is very dear to me.

An unmotivated person however, with their heart closed, may not be fulfilling their purpose.

This is counter to the work ethic of your culture. It is seemingly obvious to casual thinking that entities who come from other densities to the earth density to serve are coming to serve in an outer sense. But, my sister, this is often not the case. Indeed, the majority of those who come from elsewhere to Planet Earth come to lighten the consciousness of Planet Earth by holding their hearts open and allowing the love/light of the one infinite Creator to move through their energy bodies into their hearts. And when their hearts are fully open they are able to bless that energy and send it onwards, not only with the infinity of the Creator’s light but also with the very specific blessing of one spark of the Creator, which is that wanderer on Earth. As that wanderer moves through all which it must move in order to keep the heart open and to bless that light and dedicate it to the service of the entire planet, that wanderer is fulfilling his purpose completely.

It takes a focused mind to have the heart open. The majority of lazy people are addicted to distractions; TV, music, films, games - many of which do the opposite of opening the heart.

[BlatzAdict]

I think tv shows, music, films and games open the heart. I think it's why so many people like anime. Theres always the theme of follow your heart. Anime protagonists always start out not believing in themselves and learn at the end that if they believe in themselves, they can achieve anything and rise above any challenge.

[Aaron]

I think tv shows, music, films and games open the heart. I think it's why so many people like anime. Theres always the theme of follow your heart. Anime protagonists always start out not believing in themselves and learn at the end that if they believe in themselves, they can achieve anything and rise above any challenge.

Well, there's some forms of media (like the 9 o clock news, or some mainstream video games, tv shows, and movies) that I think are engineered by the system to lull people to sleep spiritually.

But aren't all other forms of media the expression of the soul of the ones who made it? So, like most things, you've got the full spectrum from light to dark, positive to negative. When those people who are polarizing positively create media, it carries a inspiringly positive message. Sometimes it's all done unconsciously, the creators of the media not even consciously putting a positive message into their media (which has been discussed here before).

I think some "slackers/lazies/losers" have even unknowingly raised the planetary vibration by creating media that's simply an expression of their positive soul!

[Namaste]

I think tv shows, music, films and games open the heart.

Indeed some do, the majority offered to the mass population (purposely) do not. The entertainment industry is akin to the media industry; the big players often have STS ties and motivations.

The most popular games involve killing others. The Call of Duty franchise being an example. The latest version broke record sales in a record time.

World of Warcraft is another.

There may be times when people are feeling loving to the team/clan mates, however throughout most of the game(s), the mind is in fight or flight mode (the opposite of peacefulness) and engaged in destroying another. It's not just the end result, it's the state of consciousness throughout.

[Ocean]

I think tv shows, music, films and games open the heart. I think it's why so many people like anime. Theres always the theme of follow your heart. Anime protagonists always start out not believing in themselves and learn at the end that if they believe in themselves, they can achieve anything and rise above any challenge.

why is it people put down an art form? somehow van gogh is not spiritually corruptive but a beautiful art form such as TV and movies are blamed. i'm not saying all movies are spiritual but i think it's a lot in how you look at it, and what you get out of it. and it's dualistic to say if you didn't enjoy a movie then it's no good.

[3DMonkey]

@ Namaste
That is not fight or flight. Fight or flight is when something happens like a bullet going through your shoulder and your body natural responds. Or something like surgery, and you can understand if you have ever experienced that.
Video games are puzzles involving hand/eye coordination. It doesn't matter the content, the player is solving problems in rhythm and achieving a sense of accomplishment. ..... even so, too much of any one thing is not good.....


@Ocean
... To answer your question, I don't know. The affects of everything is how we look at it and what we choose to take from it. Even movies I dislike, I certainly love debating. Sometimes I choose to view a movie in all its intricacies beginning with the screenplay and political agenda. Sometimes, it's nice to consciously immerse myself into the fantasy world. It is art. Even if a producer has some grand illusions of mass media manipulation, there are still full artistic expressions that go into its production. I imagine there is a minimum wage cameraman with a passion for his camera equipment, and people like him, that should not be overlooked before "put downs" are in order.

[Turtle]

With all the various concepts I toy around with in my mind, as to what identity I feel most describes me, the concept "radiant being" makes me feel the most complete and joyful. Just under that would be things like "musician" and "friend", etc.

[Aaron]

With all the various concepts I toy around with in my mind, as to what identity I feel most describes me, the concept "radiant being" makes me feel the most complete and joyful. Just under that would be things like "musician" and "friend", etc.

So, you're saying that you're absolutely NOT one of these slackers being talked about, eh?? Hehe just kidding!!

[turtledude23]

I think that as we approach harvest were all being pushed more to polarize, which means alot more people awakening to their true nature, but for all the people who want to stay asleep they need even more, and higher "quality" distractions to remain asleep. The easiest way to distract/entertain is with division and noise be it in the form of killing virtual people, becoming engrossed in the drama of shallow impatient characters, fantasizing about living like a famous musician, etc.

Some of you may remember chaotikmind, he claims to be on the STS path, he said that his version of meditation is generating so much noise in his mind that he reaches a state of euphoria, where as we all strive for peace of mind, calmness, mental silence, etc. The shitty music and movies predominant in our societies are noise to distract the mind.

Thankfully there's youtube - and that's thanks goes to Google, they lose millions every year keeping it running.

[Namaste]

@ Namaste
That is not fight or flight. Fight or flight is when something happens like a bullet going through your shoulder and your body natural responds. Or something like surgery, and you can understand if you have ever experienced that.

An extreme example brother, more akin to physical shock; also defined as body trauma.

The chemical/hormonal production during fight or flight on the other hand, is produced by the mental response to a circumstance. It's subjective; a person with agoraphobia will feel their life threatened in a shopping centre, and in turn, their body will produce the specific adrenalin and other hormones. Most other people may feel happy in the same circumstance.

Video games are puzzles involving hand/eye coordination. It doesn't matter the content, the player is solving problems in rhythm and achieving a sense of accomplishment. ..... even so, too much of any one thing is not good.....

Have to disagree here, a simple puzzle game with cute graphics and sounds will not generate the same effect as running around killing people with a chain-saw. Certainly not for the vast majority of gamers, and I know a lot of them :¬)

[3DMonkey]

Have to disagree here, a simple puzzle game with cute graphics and sounds will not generate the same effect as running around killing people with a chain-saw. Certainly not for the vast majority of gamers, and I know a lot of them :¬)

Even so, the "effect" is not fight or flight response. My point is that it is not real. There is no real effect on the player other than hand/eye reflex stimulation. Fight or flight has a REAL effect. Pretend doesn't make for genuine effect. Getting excited, with rapid heart rate, by getting close to reaching the next level is far different than having a pro football player running full force directly at you.
If gaming is fight or flight, then there should be levels one through ten to describe the intensity. There aren't levels. Gaming is not fight or flight.

[Ocean]

not all movies and shows are shallow and about shallow people. you see what you see, maybe that says something about you.

if you don't like grey's anatomy, don't watch grey's anatomy. i don't. some people find enjoyment in it and if it's on their path, then it's appropriate to being there. we can't impose our world view on others, you are merely a person too, turtle, as am i, if i think grey's sucks, that only means it's not appropriate for me. i can't make that call for someone who loves the show and is "asleep". and that show might help wake that person up. who are we to take it away from someone or judge how it affects someone? all everything is moments, moments that teach you, like they say, ask for guidance and you get answers everywhere, on TV, in the sky, hearing conversations, what you love and put your efforts into doesn't matter to them, they insert the guidance around you and the things you love. inspiration is constantly around us. i've been taught by TV since i was a toddler, noone else seems to look at things the same way i do, but that doesn't mean mine isn't valid.

even soaps are an art form, if you're not a passionate supporter of TV then you just won't get it. but leave it to those who love it and see the beauty. it is an ART FORM and ART IS SACRED. and as everything, value is in the eye of the beholder.

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plus, people being happy is just what the illuminati don't want. so how is it bad to enjoy something?

[unity100]

modern programming/television/entertainment isnt an 'art form'. its mass manufactured moneymaking. this also applies to gaming unfortunately.

[Ocean]

who are you to say my eyes are wrong and yours are right when you don't see something i do?

[Namaste]

Even so, the "effect" is not fight or flight response. My point is that it is not real. There is no real effect on the player other than hand/eye reflex stimulation. Fight or flight has a REAL effect. Pretend doesn't make for genuine effect. Getting excited, with rapid heart rate, by getting close to reaching the next level is far different than having a pro football player running full force directly at you.
If gaming is fight or flight, then there should be levels one through ten to describe the intensity. There aren't levels. Gaming is not fight or flight.

You're missing the point brother, we can discuss what fight or flight means to each of us indefinitely.

I shall quote myself, with a slight tweak as to not direct the notion off on a tangent.

There may be times when people are feeling loving to the team/clan mates, however throughout most of the game(s), the mind is in an STS/fear-based state, engaged in destroying another. It's not just the end result, it's the state of consciousness throughout.

[BlatzAdict]

modern programming/television/entertainment isnt an 'art form'. its mass manufactured moneymaking. this also applies to gaming unfortunately.

i studied for about 4 years in video game design. sorry but i take offense to this. have you seen a game design doc? it's practically a museum of art. all the reference and work and design that goes into a game. you have no idea.

we had to study 3d animation, 2d animation, sculpture, set design, cinematography. modeling texturing painting anatomy life drawing, everything you can possibly imagine or not. for that matter.

when you look at it from the perspective of gaming is about killing sure you take a very generalist approach to someone who doesn't game themselves. it's not about killing it's about having fun. it doesn't matter if that game is about killing or not, what matters is that it's fun.

same thing with wow. it requires a strength of character to be able to hold your own and some people react to it with rage and anger because they were never taught good manners.

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you know ignorant people used to say the same thing about music, about whatever it is that was "new" in society. weren't the beatles considered satanic at some point. wasn't witchcraft shunned and people burned at the stake because people were so ignorant in their judgements as to whether what was good or bad.

now wiccans are regarded as acceptable and are equated to spiritualists, one in the same.

I think it is wise not to judge something especially when you don't partake in it. it's so easy to act high and mighty, when u haven't experienced these things for yourself and then to come to a conclusion that it's not video games, or movies that make a society, it's the person viewing them. it's the individual. this is the problem with light. you can go infinitely in any direction. that is why love is my guide.

i'm not sure if many of you understand what light is in reality.

light needs love to direct itself i say this all the time. light is infinite, but so is love.. love is infinite.
light is one half of infinity which is equally as infinite as intelligent infinity
love is equally as infinite as light, which is equally as infinite as intelligent infinity.

it doesn't make 2 things finite, it makes 2 things parts of the whole and when u only look at things from one perspective, you are promoting intolerance, fear, and division.

[Ocean]

yes indeed. light and love. and i see TV with love, if you don't view it with love, well then you're gonna miss the whole point. because to me art is love more than anything. and what you see with love, just isn't visible to those who don't look at it with love. therefore it's pointless for me to argue in favor of something someone doesn't choose to see.

[unity100]

gaming, music and entertainment are mass manufacturing industries as of now. it doesnt matter how highly you regard your game design doc or what amount of effort you put into creating a game.

shareholders dont want art. shareholders want assured profits.

and as a result of this, you have FIFA XVIIICMCMIII, World of Warcraft - Lich King's Eight Borne Son Awakens Again Part II, Soap operas and sitcoms copied one after another with same and similar jokes, same kind of movies repeating each other, or the SAME movie repeating itself with sequels with little difference, and so on.

because, shareholders dont want companies to take risks. its mass manufacturing.

[3DMonkey]

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There may be times when people are feeling loving to the team/clan mates, however throughout most of the game(s), the mind is in an STS/fear-based state, engaged in destroying another. It's not just the end result, it's the state of consciousness throughout.

a blanket statement without room enough for everyone to fit under. If a player actually believes he is killing, there is something much worse than media at play.

The point is..... it's a game

Blame the game or blame the player?.........Blame the game or blame the player?......Blame the game or blame the player?

It's the player, brother. The game is only a game. A game is an instument as is a piano. The player puts their skills to work in a fashion they choose. A game controller with as many keys as a piano would be more challenging for sure. There's no difference. Video games can be achieved faster.... Isn't that the current way?.... Time is moving faster and faster? .... Gotta keep up....

[Richard]

Rock n Roll was the devil's toy 50 years ago. People were griping about it then too. Now its games and TV that is rotting the minds of our youth. Some people just can't be happy unless they are complaining about society in one form or another.

I agree with Monkey. They are games. Its just pixels. Its the mind of the individual and how he/she approaches the catalysts of life that matters. Even if that catalyst is an online game or a movie.

Richard

[3DMonkey]

LOL. I imagine there was even a time when literature (say it a fancy way, litorachore) threatened the "purity" of youth.

[BlatzAdict]

gaming, music and entertainment are mass manufacturing industries as of now. it doesnt matter how highly you regard your game design doc or what amount of effort you put into creating a game.

shareholders dont want art. shareholders want assured profits.

and as a result of this, you have FIFA XVIIICMCMIII, World of Warcraft - Lich King's Eight Borne Son Awakens Again Part II, Soap operas and sitcoms copied one after another with same and similar jokes, same kind of movies repeating each other, or the SAME movie repeating itself with sequels with little difference, and so on.

because, shareholders dont want companies to take risks. its mass manufacturing.

umm yea and the majority of those kinds of games don't sell. what sells is whether or not it is fun. and none of your criticism is going to change any of that.

there are plenty of games that are about art. sorry to break it to you not everything is black and white like you claim it is. there is only 1 black and 1 white. while there are over 256 shades of grey. i play video games cause it's fun, not because it makes me more violent.

u have a very rigid way of learning with light, and i wonder if we are touching on some past karmic issue with you.

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world of warcraft is fun because the gameplay is fun. blizzard spends a lot of time and years into pushing the art, and the game play. you can look at plenty of other mass market games that are simply just for the sake of killing and they don't sell very well.. u know why because they are boring.

YOU CAN'T judge a gamer, when u aren't even a gamer yourself. It's like judging a sub set of people for what they enjoy. It's ridiculous! Do you support free will or not?
Cause it sounds to me like you are going up against free will.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVf2rMILU0M
Okami - an example of art in games.

Though I think you'd find some way to criticize this too. lol

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LOL. I imagine there was even a time when literature (say it a fancy way, litorachore) threatened the "purity" of youth.

are u talking about amish porn? u know.. showin u some ankle... ooohhh yeeeaaa.. lolol

http://modifiedliving.com/Amish/lolitas/3.htm
They'd churn your butter like porn stars!

hahahahaha

[Aaron]

What I think is happening here is that we're trying to label things as one thing or the other. There are very few things (actually, I dare say there may not be anything at all) in this world that are black and white. It's all varying shades of gray. In a holographic universe, everything is a spectrum, like light! It's the mistake we've made since the beginning of our modern society.

Ok, so playing Call of Duty may not put you into full on fight of flight mode (unless you're playing on a 72" screen with the surround sound pumped and a ticking grenade lands on your head! ), but it does put the brain into a state that is more stressed than it would be if you were sitting in eden under an apple tree. When I would play CoD with my old roommate, he would get very stressed and sometimes even angry at the game. I know that's not typical, but we all are affected to some degree. Why do people get angry at games? It's because in order to engage the game and play, you have to put a part of yourself, a part of your ego, into the game as your character (except casual games like puzzle games). So it's definitely possible for video games to be a distraction or a stressor.

I think that similarly, media can't be labeled as either an STS distraction device or an expression of the soul which can provide guidance. A lot of media is purely the latter, whereas the mainstream seems to be both but mostly the former. So in that light, you're both right! Maybe you can each adopt and incorporate a little of the other's viewpoint?

[3DMonkey]

What I think is happening here is that we're trying to label things as one thing or the other. There are very few things (actually, I dare say there may not be anything at all) in this world that are black and white. It's all varying shades of gray. In a holographic universe, everything is a spectrum, like light! It's the mistake we've made since the beginning of our modern society.

Ok, so playing Call of Duty may not put you into full on fight of flight mode (unless you're playing on a 72" screen with the surround sound pumped and a ticking grenade lands on your head! ), but it does put the brain into a state that is more stressed than it would be if you were sitting in eden under an apple tree. When I would play CoD with my old roommate, he would get very stressed and sometimes even angry at the game. I know that's not typical, but we all are affected to some degree. Why do people get angry at games? It's because in order to engage the game and play, you have to put a part of yourself, a part of your ego, into the game as your character (except casual games like puzzle games). So it's definitely possible for video games to be a distraction or a stressor.

I think that similarly, media can't be labeled as either an STS distraction device or an expression of the soul which can provide guidance. A lot of media is purely the latter, whereas the mainstream seems to be both but mostly the former. So in that light, you're both right! Maybe you can each adopt and incorporate a little of the other's viewpoint?

I can recall, as a child, punching my little brother when he "made" me mess up and Mario wouldn't recognize that "I pushed jump dammit". All me, of course, all me. Those little kid games used to frustrate me to the point of physical violence. Not the games fault. Not at all. It was all me. All me. It has nothing to do with the graphics, or the difficulty. It was inside me. Jigsaw puzzles can be addictive and flustering (breaks are necessary) whether its a picture of a meadow or a shark.

Do you know that a polarized object is one that has separated its positive charges from its negative charges? Separated! Interesting, no? Things "outside" are not STS or STO. Inside is where the polarization takes place. Do you see the negative? Or do you see the positive?

I don't care about video games. I don't even play video games anymore. (okay, I play supermario bros 3 on occasion). I'm not going to call out those who do with "you're subjecting yourself to evil". Neither am I going to ascribe negative value to those who create the games. Its just a game.

I value allowing people to be themselves. Actually, people can't be changed anyway. They'll change if they want to, when they know who they are.