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    Thread: Rumi: Teacher Of L01?


    jafar (Offline)

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    04-12-2022, 01:42 PM
    I died to the mineral state and became a plant,
    I died to the vegetal state and reached animality,
    I died to the animal state and became a man,
    Then what should I fear? I have never become less from dying.
    At the next charge (forward) I will die to human nature,
    So that I may lift up (my) head and wings among the angels,
    And I must (also) jump from the river of (the state of) the angel,
    Everything perishes except His Face,
    Once again I will become sacrificed from (the state of) the angel,
    I will become that which cannot come into the imagination,
    Then I will become non-existent; non-existence says to me (in tones) like an organ.
    Truly, to Him is our return.
    -- Jalalaldin Muhammad Rumi, Masnavi

    I stumbled upon the above passage as I read Masnavi.
    This strikingly reminding me of Ra's depiction of consciousness soul evolutionary journey from 1st density (mineral), 2nd (plant / animal), 3rd (human), 4th-6th (angels?) and then reached the full octave (infinity / no boundary or identity limit through non-existence).
    Has Ra or Quo and friends mentioned Rumi? 
    Does he among the 'messenger of Law of One' ?
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    04-12-2022, 02:51 PM
    Ra never mentions which Muhammad.


    Quote:2.2 Questioner: Could you tell us something of your historical background, your earlier times in the illusion and the time state[?] contact, possibly your incarnation on this planet that you spoke of before, and contact with earlier races on this planet? Then we would have something to start with in writing this book.

    Ra: I am Ra. We are aware that your mind/body is calculating the proper method of performing the task of creating a teach/learning instrument. We are aware that you find our incarnate, as you call it, state of interest. We waited for a second query so as to emphasize that the time/space of several thousand of your years creates a spurious type of interest. Thus in giving this information, we ask the proper lack of stress be placed upon our experiences in your local space/time. The teach/learning which is our responsibility is philosophical rather than historical. We shall now proceed with your request which is harmless if properly evaluated.

    We are those of the Confederation who eleven thousand of your years ago came to two of your planetary cultures which were at that time closely in touch with the creation of the One Creator. It was our naïve belief that we could teach/learn by direct contact and the free will distortions of individual feeling or personality were in no danger, we thought, of being disturbed as these cultures were already closely aligned with a[n] all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all. We came and were welcomed by the peoples whom we wished to serve. We attempted to aid them in technical ways having to do with the healing of mind/body/spirit complex distortions through the use of the crystal, appropriate to the distortion, placed within a certain appropriate series of ratios of time/space material. Thus were the pyramids created.

    We found that the technology was reserved largely for those with the effectual mind/body distortion of power. This was not intended by the Law of One. We left your peoples. The group that was to work with those in the area of South America, as you call that portion of your sphere, gave up not so easily. They returned. We did not. However, we have never left your vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law of One. We attempted to contact the rulers of the land to which we had come, that land which you call Egypt, or in some areas, the Holy Land.

    In the Eighteenth Dynasty, as it is known in your records of space/time distortions, we were able to contact a pharaoh, as you would call him. The man was small in life-experience on your plane and was a… what this instrument would call, Wanderer. Thus, this mind/body/spirit complex received our communication distortions and was able to blend his distortions with our own. This young entity had been given a vibratory complex of sound which vibrated in honor of a prosperous god, as this mind/body complex, which we call instrument for convenience, would call “Amun.” The entity decided that this name, being in honor of one among many gods, was not acceptable for inclusion in his vibratory sound complex. Thus, he changed his name to one which honored the sun disc. This distortion, called “Aten,” was a close distortion to our reality as we understand our own nature of mind/body/spirit complex distortion. However, it does not come totally into alignment with the intended teach/learning which was sent. This entity, Akhenaten, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One.

    However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs. When this entity was no longer in this density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own and continued so until the one known as Muhammad delivered the peoples into a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships.
    Quote:The Eighteenth Dynasty spanned the period from 1550/1549 to 1292 BC.  Akhenaten (c. 1353–1336 BC)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth...y_of_Egypt
    Quote:Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī (30 September 1207 – 17 December 1273), was a 13th-century Persian poet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumi

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    05-06-2022, 01:42 AM
    Qu'o have never mentioned Rumi explicitly as far as I've been able to find. The have though directed one to the Sufi teachings as the heart of Islam where one understand's the self as the Creator. Various statements such as the above and some of Ibn Arab's words reveal perhaps that they were very indigo ray activated and thus were able to receive knowledge through gnosis about the true nature of reality.
    'We would suggest that it would be helpful to look for the positive gifts of the one known as Mohammed in the mysticism of the Sufi’s, just as one may most likely find the most positive aspects of the Old Testament writing and prophets in that small circle of entities who have worked with the Kabala to develop the Tree of Life. In both cases the outer husks of religion, the dogma, the exclusiveness, and so forth, have been cast aside to get to the heart of the fruit of spirituality which is the same in any religion or system of worship. And that is simply the adoration of the one infinite Creator by the creation that has been made. The Creator responds with Its adoration for that which It has created. - March 25 2007.

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