08-18-2021, 07:06 AM
(08-17-2021, 08:28 PM)Patrick Wrote:(08-17-2021, 04:42 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: Patrick, that's the thing. I can show you my preferences and what I think are proper changes and then you can view the list and look to see if they apply or ask why does this one say this about me? Perhaps none of them apply to you? I do not want to change you. I do not want to mould you into me but rather, I would like to see you be you.
So all in all it's: "Please Patrick could you serve a helping of spiky wisdom with that fluffy compassion."
Then here's a serving of that spiky wisdom. If members are offended by encountering too much fluff on a spiritual forum dedicated to love and light, maybe they are in the wrong place. But in this case they would not need to find a place that placates their whims, because the whole rest of the Internet and the outside world is already that place without fluff where we are exposed to the hard and intensive mirroring.
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So let's focus on this aspect you mentioned: "...if people are to be offended by no fluff then perhaps they are in the wrong place. My advice to them is: Find a fluffy home that placates your whims...". I don't think most seekers have a real issue with this. I think what triggers people are personal attacks, even "respectful" ones.
I believe it is possible to tell people our truth without fluff and also without the other self feeling attacked. This is a direction that personally I would like these forums to try. What would this place look like if members made a real effort in arguing about the messages while refraining from attacking or analyzing the messengers? It would not become a fluffy home in the coocoo clouds, that's for sure. People would still use language as they see fit and tell their truth in their own way. It would not become sickeningly harmonious, but it would at least help others understand the message. Because when feeling attacked, most people are going to go on the defensive and the message that we wished to communicate is quickly dismissed. This does not serve the hard truths to be heard. It's just ensuring that it won't.
But also I get the feeling that many do not even know they are doing it. Even without moderation, I think we could help each others by mentioning it when we feel attacked. And of course it would be helpful if members refrained from doing it once they became aware.
@Ohr Ein Sof. - tried to find a quote on "Wisdom" by Ra. I could not find any wisdom by Ra without fluff. Thanks for the smile Here is the quote for reference as to what is "Wisdom"
April 21, 2002
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Wisdom is not “out there.” Wisdom is not that which needs to be grasped for. Wisdom is that which comes in a moment when there is at last a willingness and a humility that allows the self to release all the preconceptions and all of what the one known as J was speaking of as the old way. Is there anything wrong with old ways? We would say, certainly not. What there are, are unending variations in a pattern. Each time that you do a day you are creating one set of ripples in the ocean of common being, and that which you think and that which you do and that which you envision for that day is your expression of beauty, of essence, that you give as a gift to the common race of humankind and to the energies of planet Earth of which you are her stewards. You cannot see the effects of that day, just as ripples move into the ocean and finally fetch up on a distant shore. You do not know what you have done. The joy of it is in the doing, not in the results. The gift was the day and the life is a gift to the future and others will reap those seeds that you now sow with your being this day. Each day is a brand new gift, a brand new life, a new opportunity to be you and to find the most creative ways to love.
Each of you has seen how easy it is to minister to others, and we ask you to forgive yourself in just that way for all perceived faults, not attempting simply to ignore those faults. You have a mind and a power of analysis. You have techniques and resources that you can use to work with yourself. And we are happy to speak to you about this. Each of you needs somewhat different ways in order to work upon various distortions which you have picked up, places where you are holding energy within yourself so that your energy is not flowing into the heart and through the heart in full measure. As the one known as R said, in the great urge to get into the heart and to do work in consciousness often that self that is expressing in the lower energy centers is simply left behind. What are your issues? Are they diet? Are they exercise? Are they emotional healings? Are they moving back into an abandoned and lonely childhood and bringing that child into the heart and giving it the love that was not perceived in the young days of that soul? Whatever your issues are, honor them, respect them, and minister to yourself. It is not selfish. It’s needed work in order to free you up to be that essentially joyful self that you already are when you are not burdened with concerns.