(08-17-2021, 04:42 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote: Patrick, that's the thing. I can show you my preferences and what I think are proper changes and then you can view the list and look to see if they apply or ask why does this one say this about me? Perhaps none of them apply to you? I do not want to change you. I do not want to mould you into me but rather, I would like to see you be you.
What puzzles me about your personality type (oh here we go again lol) is that you are so trusting when it comes to the government and that after all the quotes read by both Ra and Q'uo, you would think that this structure is rather wholesome and that one of your leaders seems as if they are a fatherly figure type. I am not saying all leaders are bad but.....ummmm.....the majority are imho. They are very rich and extraordinarily powerful. This is your first clue. No real positive entity desires power of this sort and even when we look at one of the USAs leaders named Roosevelt, even he fell into oblivion and began power grabbing. He started out as a positive entity and look what happened when he came in contact with material power? So, this naivete is very bewildering to me especially after you have read the Ra Material and saw what nations do to one another in the name of their leaders. I mean for god's sakes look at Egypt, Russia, Italy, Greece, the USA (now more than ever), look at the state Germany and Australia is in!!!! They have even tried and are still trying to force mandates on you guys in Canada of what amounts to be a bad cold with the healing rate of 98% with little medical intervention.
Sure ppl die, people who are already sick, die. I know a ton of ppl who supposedly had corona including myself and I was sick for two weeks and the worst was that I felt tired and had red eyes. This is something I do not understand in you but I accept that you are this naive soul who is perma happy (lol). Which is fine and it is even great that you are happy. We need more happy. But listen, you are a member of the CSC and ppl will look to you for these things in the least...
1. to know the Ra Material
2. to be rational minded and love oriented
3. to be able to demonstrate that you have done introspective work of some sort
4. can articulate rational thoughts that make sense; no circle talk
5. to be impartial which means no control mechanisms to stop ppl from expressing who they are (this does not mean allowing the negatively polarizing ppl in here to start a load of crap with the members. They have a home elsewhere)
6. and last but not least, help guide people away from being hateful and knowing how to bridge gaps if they can be bridged.
All these things come as no expense to yourself. You can maintain Patrick and we can all talk, argue, love, cry, laugh and what not. Families argue and egos keep it going. More family and a lot less ego.
If we will just allow the wisdom to come through instead of love pushing so much. The balance to love is wisdom. I will tell you though, wisdom has no fluff and if people are to be offended by no fluff then perhaps they are in the wrong place. My advice to them is: Find a fluffy home that placates your whims because truth comes either with a big hug or a sword, sorry no gettin' around that.
There are a few people in these forums that attend some really awesome positive schools of thought PLUS they have read and are still reading the Ra Material. Also, we have family members that actively study the archetypes. We DO NOT WANT TO LOSE THESE PEOPLE! But I promise that if more constraints are made and more love pushing continues, they may take their knowledge elsewhere. Want a collective? Want to usher in the Light? Well, consider the steps we take in places like these. Most of these people are Wanderers without a HOME!!!!
~rant over (I am smiling guys so don't think i just love barking and biting, bc I don't)
So all in all it's: "Please Patrick could you serve a helping of spiky wisdom with that fluffy compassion."
Then here's a serving of that spiky wisdom. If members are offended by encountering too much fluff on a spiritual forum dedicated to love and light, maybe they are in the wrong place. But in this case they would not need to find a place that placates their whims, because the whole rest of the Internet and the outside world is already that place without fluff where we are exposed to the hard and intensive mirroring.
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So let's focus on this aspect you mentioned: "...if people are to be offended by no fluff then perhaps they are in the wrong place. My advice to them is: Find a fluffy home that placates your whims...". I don't think most seekers have a real issue with this. I think what triggers people are personal attacks, even "respectful" ones.
I believe it is possible to tell people our truth without fluff and also without the other self feeling attacked. This is a direction that personally I would like these forums to try. What would this place look like if members made a real effort in arguing about the messages while refraining from attacking or analyzing the messengers? It would not become a fluffy home in the coocoo clouds, that's for sure. People would still use language as they see fit and tell their truth in their own way. It would not become sickeningly harmonious, but it would at least help others understand the message. Because when feeling attacked, most people are going to go on the defensive and the message that we wished to communicate is quickly dismissed. This does not serve the hard truths to be heard. It's just ensuring that it won't.
But also I get the feeling that many do not even know they are doing it. Even without moderation, I think we could help each others by mentioning it when we feel attacked. And of course it would be helpful if members refrained from doing it once they became aware.