06-09-2021, 02:21 PM
(06-09-2021, 12:30 PM)the Wrote:(06-09-2021, 11:41 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: A different take on it is that many spiritual people literally reject reason and use completely irrational criteria for deciding what is more and less likely to be true, and are much more eager to generally embrace nonsense as a result. There's a long history of this, of superstitions and beliefs about negative spiritual agendas behind a wide variety of things over centuries and millennia, where most specific little old themes are rejected by most spiritual people nowadays, though more general ideas live on.
very good summary. a lot of people have this viewpoint, including a lot of people practice spiritual work, e.g. meditation etc.
That's the reason when I share the 'Ra material' teaching with others, they can listen a little bit at the beginning. but as soon as I mentioned all those UFO info, including government secretly build UFO are mentioned in the "Ra material'. almost all of them saying that's conspiracy theory, or think I am crazy :-) and refuse to read 'Ra material'.
this still happens in year 2021, 40 years after the "Ra material' get published.
again, this viewpoint is perfectly fine, it's part of the ONE. so it's 'right' in its own way.
As far as far-out-ness goes, I think the UFO part is actually very minor by skeptical standards. I mean, the basic nature of the channeling, as claimed in the channeling, and the spiritual stuff from the personal to the worlds beyond the human, goes way beyond the UFO stuff in standing out from the mainstream. (In some other spiritual teachings it's different, when in a much more conspiratorial worldview, the great conspiracy dwarfs other features of the reality we live in.)
But to people who accept one set of "alternative" beliefs but only make an exception for their area of choice, another area, e.g. UFOs, may be too much.
Personally, I'm slowly becoming more detached from all the specifics of all the spiritual materials I've been into in the past. I'm changing over the years in that way. But some rather general things remain more solid in meaning and importance to me.
(06-09-2021, 11:50 AM)Minyatur Wrote:(06-09-2021, 11:41 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: There's a truly awful track record for groups of people who suddenly believe that their extra-expanded consciousnesses (whether it's called 5D or whatever else) allow them to automatically see the truth better than others.
The Law of Confusion is not to be underestimated.
I think it also ties into what spirituality really is, and what it "cannot" or "shouldn't" be while many try to make it that anyway. Attempts to use spiritual force to replace material means for knowing and navigating this world in the practical and material sphere, basically amount to trying to bring something down from a higher level into the physical to dominate the physical, in a way that could infringe free will in a very serious way if it actually worked reliably on a large scale.
It would be different in another kind of world where the veil problem does not exist, and then there's no need for all that confusion surrounding it all.