05-18-2021, 02:42 PM
(05-18-2021, 02:08 PM)Patrick Wrote:(05-18-2021, 01:58 PM)Agua Wrote: But then I work with Ayahuasca and meet things on a weekly or daily basis that I would have called impossible or absurd two days before, so my horizon of what I can imagine has expanded a bit since
Since the only healing is people healing themselves. I can see why Ayahuasca might be a very great help to those wishing to heal themselves. And of course, having guidance in such things is very helpful as well. So as a healer, you are that guide.
Healing is the most obvious magic happening everyday all around us. We discard all those miracles because we think we know how they happen. Even taking a pill for a headache is just an energetic symbol that the self uses to heal itself.
Well, that’s leading a it off topic, although ultimately much related to Covid and the vax also.
Maybe the thread should be split, if you are interested in following that „strain“.
While your statement about „its the entity that heals itself“ is absolutely correct, to me, to be honest, it seems more of a Ra quote than derived from a teal experience.
No offense intended!
I would say, the specifics are quite a bit more complicated.
Additionally, the conclusions you seem to draw, looking at the pill and headaches imply quite something that actually is not so really true and doesn’t represent the „mechanics“ of healing accurately.
„Pills“ as those against headaches do not heal, they simply suppress the symptom or in that specific case the perceiption of the symptom.
In case of a headache, it just suppresses the perceiption and the headache goes away just exactly as it would have went away without a pill.
With plant medicines such as Aya or similar ones, it’s totally different and actually the opposite.
And it’s not about the patient healing himself from a symptom, and it also has nothing at all to do with „belief“, so as for example with the placebo effect.
To simply it extremely, it is about accessing the energy that caused the symptom, or caused a blockage for that matter, experiencing it and by that realizing that this (and for that matter all) negativity is an illusion that dissolved in the light of consciousness.
This can only and exclusively happen by accessing that very energy.
It cannot happen by placebo effect, not by „faith“ and not by a chemical or other device that makes that energy go away.
Faith absolutely is needed to dive in there. Once in there, the illusory nature of negativity is being realized by the entity.
That’s healing, and in that regard, only the entity itself can heal itself.
It is thehealers job, the plant medicines job and theron of specific spirits to help access this energy (which is the pretty complex part) and in giving the entity the support it needs to dive in there and make it through (that’s the even more complex part).
So I would say, that is a bit more of an accurate model, although it definetely lacks depths, complexity and detail due to the shortness of the description.