Are you going to take the vaccine?

[Relax]

"It’s incredible egoism to pontificate for this many pages about theories that deny eye witness reports."

What kind of conspiracy theory is this ?

Ps edit. Even eye witnesses will have a hard time verifying a million street fatalities.

"I have a higher authority/access to higher info - but I'm not allowed to tell people"

People are wearing 2 masks because of authorities. But you find my authority offensive or triggering? That is just proof such an authority does not exist. If it did.... then people would obey. Like waxination health policies. Obey. Just obey. You dont talk back to the government police cdc who un. Obey.

Since people dont obey me, that is proof i have no 3rd density authority.

My kingdom is not of this world.

A few quick responses Ymarsarkar  - my reference to 'egoism' is a comment how in general I, you, anyone mostly, can forget there are people actually struggling in real time as we have the luxury of pondering and theorising.

Re "I have access to higher info but am not allowed to tell'.... you have said or hinted at this numerous times in your posts.

I didn't say I found it "offensive" or "triggering" - I said "a bit offputting" - so why misrepresent that? why the hyperbole?

NB: I sense your otherworldly-ness and I like it.

I'm going to take some time to respond here. This thread is getting detuned again. We went a good long span of time where opposing views were openly conversing and trading information and ideas, respectfully. The most recent detune before that was somebody on the "other side" or "anti vax" side. That time, I was the one who got a bit irate with it and spoke my mind.

This time, Relax, you are the one detuning the thread, with the cheap "Ugly American" jab. You might not even meant it to really be that insulting. It's just you doing yourself a disservice by buying into a stupid and lazy image instead of thinking deeper what's wrong with the world. You are an intelligent person. This is beneath you. I know the image of the ugly American. There actually are individuals like that. Plenty of them. And plenty of the same type of individuals everywhere, all around the world. Those ugly traits are far from uniquely American. People just like to use stereotypes and point fingers. We've all got a government. Governments suck. We've all got a mix of motivations and moral imperatives in our countries. We're all in the same boat here.

Pointing fingers and stereotyping whole nations is something that belongs on a generic 3d political debate forum. Seekers here are busy concentrating on real issues. The reason certain individuals find that extra irritating when you bring it here, well a few reasons come to mind. The divisiveness and detunement of it on a thread that was going for unity consciousness and integration and doing well. We are concentrating on real issues, like, as you've said...the countless people that are suffering...not actually physically being in that situation alongside them doesn't automatically mean we forget or ignore. I say we do more on this forum than people ranting about dumb Americans.

Another factor of it people find annoying, is its just such a low level caliber of thinking it's a stupid distraction at a critical time on Earth. Now is the time to double down on personal self-work, to discuss real issues, to stay centered and unity conscious. It's important right now. Getting distracted by detunements and low level political bickering, assinine college campus soap-boxing, hollier than thou attitudes, and stereotypes is not a good way to hold the right energies for unity consciousness.

Do you want to not be part of this forum anymore, or do you want to be a part? You come in, take some jabs at people, bicker a bit, and then disappear for a while. Isn't there something more you'd want? Take it from somebody with an earthly diagnosis of Asperger's. Do you really want to keep alienating yourself? There's a lot of times you've said things that made a whole lot of sense, and I've found funny, and helpful. Your recent contributions to this thread are not one.

I didn't say "Ugly American"... please be accurate
You said you got irate one time
so though not irate - I did react from passion and that's hard to avoid when you have just seen people gasping to breathe in the streets...

I don't buy in to anything - I've spent about 40 - 50 years forming my perception about the USA - and am in the majority of, as I said, at least 2/3rds of fellow Australians in that view especially since the obscenities of Trump's 4 years of (I'll censor myself)

you then go on to say much that I was saying myself... that we're all capable of repulsiveness...
I didn't point fingers, rant or speak in stereotypes... or "political bickering, assinine college campus soap-boxing, hollier than thou attitudes, and stereotypes"

I don't think I "come in, take some jabs at people, bicker a bit, and then disappear for a while"...
I say what I think/feel and if it didn't land anywhere it would be ignored - but it has touched a nerve it seems....

I made the mistake of posting when I knew it would be useless, unproductive, and unharmonious to the majority egregore.

It is hard to be constantly reading white male first world analysis.

(And knowing that writing that ^ itself will be badly reacted to - and denied.)

But I'm detuning again - so please let's end this here. As you were - best wishes.

Your perceptions are couched in a certain moral sincerity. I feel you are a decent person. However, I find them to be misguided, and fixated on lower paradigms like identity politics rather than true unity consciousness.

This is so patronising - infantalising of me. Identity politics are ABOUT division that already exists, "unity consciousness" is a privileged concept to people who live with the fear of being pulled over by police and ending up dead for a broken tail light. Also - please reconsider paternalistic (actually ANY) 'assessments' of me in future

What do you really know about the egregore here?

A LOT

Do you even know who you are talking to, who is on this site?

Do you? (Do we have to now compare the length of our involvements with B4th?)

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There are people like that in corporations, in governments, etc. Not here.

Seriously? WOW

The people on a forum like this, biologically white male or otherwise, are not of the same mindset or culture at all.

0__0  Some are - some aren't.

Why even apply those terms?

They apply - especially in an unconscious way and have been observed to apply and widely discussed re women on B4th fairly recently.

It's divisive.

It's not divisive to point out divisions. The division/s exist, worldwide and aren't suddenly magically dissipated when people contribute their ideas here.

We are aware what goes on on a 3d level, with these social justice conflicts. We at this point don't have to identify with those paradigms that unenlightened people are entrenched in and embattled over. We are not obligated to identify with 3d racial identity politics and 3d systems of stupidity and division.

This is spoken exactly like a privileged person. Of course if you're not affected by "3d racial identity politics and 3d systems of stupidity and division" you have no need to "identify with" them! (duh?!) You also say: "that unenlightened people are entrenched in and embattled over" WOW - so if I'm stalked and raped by an abusive man and advocate for domestic violence support services and societal change I'm "unenlightened"?
NB: better that you don't speak for others views on B4th on this - as you haven't asked their permission. (Although - the predominant male egregore of B4th has nearly always been resistant to mention of these issues.)

Second off, how many people you talk to on here do you even assume are, biologically speaking white males? Are you sure some of the posters and members here might not be, I don't know...African, of Asian descent, Aboriginal descent, and other?

It's long been known that the predominant membership is Caucasian male on B4th - again - there have been threads written about this.

Are you really aware of how active and well respected our female members are, how well represented on the CSS and how strongly their energies contribute to the egregore?

Please refer to Stepping Feet and Austin and PARTICULARLY Jade's recent contributions to threads on B4th. This may be changing now - but was long overdue and the ratio is still skewed to male voices. Again, you can't speak to respect for women here when there are numerous misogynist and sexist posts up throughout B4th for all to see.

You would be surprised at just the handful of people I talk to in PMs here, as far as 3d racial diversity.

Over 5 years via PM I've had conversations with many women and non white members expressing deep dissatisfaction at the dominant white male egregore of B4th. THAT has been my experience.

Do you even know who you are talking to, do you even know the egregore here, or do you just speculate based on some personal annoyances you had years ago?

Yes. Yes. And - my experiences on B4th in times past aren't yours to comment on.

Do you think these people I talk to, who are not "white males", do you think they complain? Feel stifled? Feel b4 is a "white male egregore"?

Quite possibly - the ones I talk to have felt that way.

I don't know your situation and will not make a call on you personally or your identity...it's just something I see white males often being the ones to rant about white males and white maleness.

LOL I'm NOT a white male!

You are asking us to see things in a very divisive, non unity conscious manner.

NOPE. I'm pointing out what's still occurring world wide and naturally occurs here as well. There's been recent discussion of it as I mentioned. Women on the CCS is hopeful, but only a start.

To dumb down our world view in both green and blue ray and look at the world through more cynical standards like mainstream society.

NOPE. This is the opposite of my wishes.

It's not that we are ignorant to these 3d struggles and racial issues, it's that we are aware of them and transcended the need to identify with perceived "sides" or identity politics.

Sorry - but if I was a person more marginalised (say - female Aboriginal friends of mine) - you'd be completely schooled about the ignorance/naivety in that sentence !

That is what I mean when I say that this mindset is something you'd see on a college campus, rather than a genuine community of greater seeking.

Don't speak down to me like this. I'm 59 - I don't operate via 'identity politics', I don't think like most people I know - I don't answer to you. You've responded as I expected - as most defensive men respond (albeit couched in metaphysical 'unity' spiel).