03-21-2019, 12:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2019, 12:48 PM by redchartreuse.)
(03-21-2019, 10:59 AM)Diana Wrote: Out in the world, this is not the case. People go about their business, shopping, working, taking care of their families, and all the things people do. They don't necessarily want to discuss anything, so this is not a given in the world of human interaction.
Well, yes. But I'm just not sure what you are responding to. Are you imagining somebody running wild in public and getting up in people's faces "telling them how it is"? Or... where are you coming from on this?
Quote:I do think evolving is an innate imperative, but most people resist that which points out the need to change or grow.
Why do you think that it is the case that "most people resist" growth? And would you imagine that is typical behavior of 3D/4D entities at large, or might it be connected to something more specific to this sphere?
Quote:So I don't think there is any level of consent one can assume with human interaction in general.
I would also invite you to consider the world where people do not smile at one another, out of concern not to offend.
There is definitely no need for one of us to be "right" and the other "wrong" on this, however to my perception I take the teachings about this place being a school at face value. So the entire context is one of a classroom, for me. I don't see it as out of place to expect others to learn in a place of teaching.
Quote:I don't need to be asked by anyone to participate in any discussion here. I can see that maybe you feel I singled you out. That was not my intention. I was just expressing my thoughts on the subject—which are not rigid by the way. I reserve the right to change and evolve my perceptions.
No, of course you don't need to be asked in order to participate! I was just offering the observation that you chose to take the opportunity to step in between an interaction, and speak on behalf of another person. Or did you choose this? Perhaps it was unconscious on your part. I wouldn't know.
Quote:The OP seemed to me to reflect the idea that you wanted to make (anyone) asleep get your messages. But that was an assumption on my part. Apologies if I was wrong about that.
Apologies accepted. I would invite you to re-read the OP and let me know if you see that again.
Quote:Maybe in an inconsequential interaction such as a random greeting or casual conversation where there is nothing to attach to this is true (and might be what you mean?).
Yes. The thing that I somewhat foolishly referred to as a "zen slap" would be something that occurs in the context of there already being some type of conversation at hand. It may or may not be totally "casual" in terms of the topic, depending on how you would look at it.
But no, it has nothing to do with invading people's personal spaces while they are out and about doing their daily round of activities! Besides... acting that way is likely to get somebody slapped for real, or worse.
I'm still not sure what sort of scenarios you are envisioning here. Sounds to me kind of like the sort of behavior an overzealous activist might display in public toward others... is that what you are talking about?
What I am talking about is when another person treads into a conversation or other interaction, and makes a comment of some sort. I take that as permission enough to offer my own perceptions and opinions in return.