03-14-2019, 12:32 PM
(03-14-2019, 12:15 PM)redchartreuse Wrote: If you had substituted "the veil" for "sleep" in the above, it would make perfect sense to me. However as it stands, it looks quite strained.
If we are to take Ra at their word, the purpose of incarnation is to spiritually grow and evolve. Not to sleep.
I'm just saying you cannot dissociate the two, the quality of sleep is what offers the greater opportunity of growth.
I posted this yesterday in another thread:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think or consider of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.
Which I am tying to:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Given that our interpretation of your sound vibration complexes is appropriate, this is incorrect. The intensity of fourth density is that of the refining of the rough-hewn sculpture. This is, indeed, in its own way, quite intense causing the mind/body/spirit complex to move ever inward and onward in its quest for fuller expression. However, in third density the statue is forged in the fire. This is a type of intensity which is not the property of fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh densities.
(03-14-2019, 12:15 PM)redchartreuse Wrote: The purpose and function of the veil makes sense to me. What doesn't make sense is the seeming attitude that, since some veil is good, more veil must be better.
This creation is an experiment. And it is perfectly acceptable to me as an experiment. However, an experiment is a total waste if nothing was learned.
Learning is to distill one's experience. The veil is there to offer a greater variety of experience to distill.
The strong point of the Earth is that depending on your incarnational circumstances, you can have very different kinds of experiences for a human lifetime. It offers many opportunities to work different things.
(03-14-2019, 12:15 PM)redchartreuse Wrote:Quote:It's a bit like how last night you could have had a dream of being chased and killed, then you wake sweaty because of the red ray rush caused by the fear you experienced. It does not matter so much to your waking self, because it was a dream, a fantasy, but the quality of having forgetten that is what made the experience of living a thrill. Human life is the same, it is a dream we wake up from and forgetting that it is a dream is what allows one to actually live something. It is all the complex play of conscious and unconscious, and it goes far beyond this earthly experience.
I agree with what you have said here, but I am failing to see how it applies to the topic at hand.
What we are discussing here is more like... going to "sleep" by having an incarnation, and then "waking up" and realizing that one spent the whole time dreaming that they were sleeping.
Is there something to be gained by this? Does it result in a certain kind of growth or evolution? Is there a higher purpose here?
Or is it simply the unfortunate consequence of using the imbalanced experimental conditions to produce spiritual growth among entities?
A bit like I said before, it offers opportunity for experience. Learning is for one to see its reflection, all there is to learn about is yourself.