Transformation of the Mind - Lovers
07-31-2018, 12:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-31-2018, 12:57 AM by loostudent.)
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RE: Transformation of the Mind - Lovers
The image of two angels whispering in ears are those presences that surround us and work from inner planes. Some are positive and some are negative (angels and demons). It's not the same as Lovers archetype.

As I understand the deep mind is only one (as it is one High Priestess archetype). There are several portions of the deep mind (archetypal mind, racial mind, planetary mind ...) and there are just two potential ways of conscious and subconscious (deep mind) working together. The faculty is intuition. So the transformation is when intuition starts being used in a certain way - according to chosen path.

Quote:Keep in mind at all times that the archetypical mind is a portion of the deep mind and informs thought processes. When the archetype is translated without regard for magical propriety into the manifested daily actions of an individual the greatest distortions may take place and great infringement upon the free will of others is possible. This is more nearly acceptable to one negatively polarized. However, the more carefully polarized of negative mind/body/spirits will also prefer to work with a finely tuned instrument. (89.44)

What would be a concrete example?
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08-12-2018, 05:10 PM,
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In the Jungian psychology this is the proces of individuation:

Quote:The overarching goal of Jungian psychology is the attainment of self through individuation. Jung defines "self" as the "archetype of wholeness and the regulating center of the psyche". Central to this process is the individual's encounter with his/her psyche and the bringing of its elements into consciousness. Humans experience the unconscious through symbols encountered in all aspects of life: in dreams, art, religion, and the symbolic dramas we enact in our relationships and life pursuits. Essential to this numinous encounter is the merging of the individual's consciousness with the collective consciousness through this symbolic language. By bringing conscious awareness to what is not conscious, unconscious elements can be integrated with consciousness when they "surface".
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08-13-2018, 12:50 AM,
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08-13-2018, 01:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-13-2018, 03:56 PM by Infinite Unity.)
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(07-31-2018, 12:53 AM)loostudent Wrote:  The image of two angels whispering in ears are those presences that surround us and work from inner planes. Some are positive and some are negative (angels and demons). It's not the same as Lovers archetype.

As I understand the deep mind is only one (as it is one High Priestess archetype). There are several portions of the deep mind (archetypal mind, racial mind, planetary mind ...) and there are just two potential ways of conscious and subconscious (deep mind) working together. The faculty is intuition. So the transformation is when intuition starts being used in a certain way - according to chosen path.


Quote:Keep in mind at all times that the archetypical mind is a portion of the deep mind and informs thought processes. When the archetype is translated without regard for magical propriety into the manifested daily actions of an individual the greatest distortions may take place and great infringement upon the free will of others is possible. This is more nearly acceptable to one negatively polarized. However, the more carefully polarized of negative mind/body/spirits will also prefer to work with a finely tuned instrument. (89.44)

What would be a concrete example?
The magical propriety is the propensity of everything being one. Without regard for being one, and everything being inherently apart of one, One still acts/teaches as if they were separate. For when all is one, what is the point of hidden information/knowledge/energy/power? Manipulation/power over others. Which usually at its root or point of origin comes from the direct opposite feeling, which is fear/insecurity, so the entity uses power to cover its own distortions/fears/insecurities.

Your not teaching what your learning. Anytime this is the case, manipulation with the Crux being what is hidden.

Many people do it unconciously.

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08-17-2018, 06:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-17-2018, 06:10 PM by Cobrien.)
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(07-30-2018, 10:48 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:  
(07-29-2018, 04:59 PM)loostudent Wrote:  
Quote:The concept of the pull towards mental polarity may well be examined in the light of what the student has already accreted concerning the nature of the conscious, exemplified by the male, and the unconscious, exemplified by the female. Indeed, both the prostituted and the virginal of deep mind invite and await the reaching. (100.6)

What do you think is the prostituted and the virginal deep mind or the two principles governing the use of the deep mind?

The High Priestess has two pillars, one light, one dark. Ra says this symbolizes the "careful design" of using polarity to progress through third density. The prostituted and the virginal are evocative to make you think about the two dichotomies with how we can treat ourselves/creation: Either like an object to be used to gain whatever pleasures and whims we desire, or something pure to NOT use, (virginal), and await the proper time, to "court" this part of the deep mind/creation, until pleasure is given to us to receive instead of taken by force. Ra says this is an attitude towards the deep mind (resources of self) and also the resources of the other self. So this can be applied to the mind and body. Ra also says, "Things come not to those positively oriented but through such beings". (55.7)

I think a very important point is made in that both minds "invite and await the reaching". Many people believe if they just go with their guts, follow their instincts, chase their whims, that this is spirituality. But spirituality is actually discerning which mind is inviting and awaiting, and which mind you want to indulge. The more you choose one mind, the quieter the other mind gets - but never goes away entirely, while we are veiled in duality. This is why discernment, not just of outside choices, but of the self, is important to cultivate.

The archetype has pervaded our culture, usually used in a humorous way. It is the angel sitting on one's right shoulder and the devil/demon on the left, whispering into the ears of the actor. Often in depiction the demon's choice is totally justifiable, and the angel's choice seems foolish or naive, or glaringly idealistic.

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If you can imagine a center to infinity, I imagine it as the sun. It pulls all towards it yet reaches with light. Every discrete line along these two forces is catalytic or experiential of a transformation of  mind. There is that which burns (red) and that which uses what burns (brown). The pillars point to the most subjective way of viewing catalyst. This is seen in the body cycle. The left rejects catalytic ordering. The right abducts by raising within it. In the image and in folk this is why the devil is on the left and angel the right.

In a session, Ra mentions not to  breathe to the left. I take this as indirect evidence

Edit: other evidence is the ringing questions
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08-18-2018, 05:34 PM,
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(08-17-2018, 06:06 PM)Cobrien Wrote:  In a session, Ra mentions not to  breathe to the left. I take this as indirect evidence

can you find which one it is?
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08-19-2018, 10:11 AM,
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I think Cobrien is talking about when Ra tells them to blow breathe over the instrument during an intense greeting while she was in trance. But Ra actually tells them to breathe from the right side to the left.

Quote:We might suggest in the, shall we say, future, as you measure space/time, as you begin a working be aware that this instrument is likely being watched for any opportunity. Thus if the circle is walked with some imperfection it is well to immediately repeat. The expelling of breath is also appropriate, always to the left.
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08-19-2018, 10:22 AM,
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(08-19-2018, 10:11 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:  I think Cobrien is talking about when Ra tells them to blow breathe over the instrument during an intense greeting while she was in trance. But Ra actually tells them to breathe from the right side to the left.







Quote:We might suggest in the, shall we say, future, as you measure space/time, as you begin a working be aware that this instrument is likely being watched for any opportunity. Thus if the circle is walked with some imperfection it is well to immediately repeat. The expelling of breath is also appropriate, always to the left.

Also in the same session they rephrase a little.

Quote:62.9 ▶ Questioner: But you mentioned the expelling of the breath to the left, I believe. Would you tell me what you meant by that?

Ra: I am Ra. It is as you have just accomplished, the breath being sent above the instrument’s head from its right side to its left.
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08-19-2018, 12:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2018, 12:03 PM by Infinite Unity.)
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(04-25-2018, 10:13 PM)unity100 Wrote:  [Image: tarot06.jpg]

In this card, does the female on the right turn the mind towards the right by pulling the left hand of the mind towards the right with her left hand, and the female on the left do the opposite?

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Quote:99.8 Questioner: Thank you. Card Number Six I see as the Transformation of the Mind, the male’s crossed arms representing transformation, transformation being possible either toward the left- or the right-hand path, the right-hand path being beckoned or led by the female, the Potentiator. The one on the right having the serpent of wisdom at the brow and being fully clothed, the one on the left having less clothing and indicating that the Matrix or Potentiator would be more concerned and attracted to the physical illusion as the left-hand path is chosen and more concerned and attracted to the mental as the right-hand path is chosen.

The creature above points an arrow at the left-hand path indicating that if this path is chosen the chips, shall we say, will fall where they may, the path being unprotected as far as the random activity of catalyst. And the intellectual abilities of the chooser of that path would be the main guardian rather than a designed or built-in protection by the Logos for the right-hand path. The entity firing the arrow being what seems to be a second density entity would indicate that this catalyst could be produced by a lesser-evolved source, you might say. Would Ra comment on these observations of Card Six, the Transformation of the Mind?


Ra: I am Ra. We shall speak upon several aspects seriatim. Firstly, let us examine the crossed arms of the male who is to be transformed. What, O student, do you make of the crossing? What see you in this tangle? There is a creative point to be found in this element which was not discussed overmuch by the questioner.

Let us now observe the evaluation of the two females. The observation that to the left-hand path moves the roughly physical and to the right-hand path the mental has a shallow correctness. There are deeper observations to be made concerning the relationship of the great sea of the unconscious mind to the conscious mind which may fruitfully be pursued. Remember, O student, that these images are not literal. They haunt rather than explicate.

Many use the trunk and roots of mind as if that portion of mind were a badly used, prostituted entity. Then this entity gains from this great storehouse that which is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue. Those who turn to the deep mind, seeing it in the guise of the maiden, go forth to court it. The courtship has nothing of plunder in its semblance and may be protracted, yet the treasure gained by such careful courtship is great. The right-hand and left-hand transformations of the mind may be seen to differ by the attitude of the conscious mind towards its own resources as well as the resources of other-selves.

We now speak of that genie, or elemental, or mythic figure, culturally determined, which sends the arrow to the left-hand transformation. This arrow is not the arrow which kills but rather that which, in its own way, protects. Those who choose separation, that being the quality most indicative of the left-hand path, are protected from other-selves by a strength and sharpness equivalent to the degree of transformation which the mind has experienced in the negative sense. Those upon the right-hand path have no such protection against other-selves for upon that path the doughty seeker shall find many mirrors for reflection in each other-self it encounters.
To move one is to move the other...which is the centerpiece or causastion of the waves of forgetfulness/beingness/thoughts, specifically related to the third density chemical vehicle.
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08-19-2018, 10:00 PM,
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(08-19-2018, 10:11 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:  I think Cobrien is talking about when Ra tells them to blow breathe over the instrument during an intense greeting while she was in trance. But Ra actually tells them to breathe from the right side to the left.


Quote:We might suggest in the, shall we say, future, as you measure space/time, as you begin a working be aware that this instrument is likely being watched for any opportunity. Thus if the circle is walked with some imperfection it is well to immediately repeat. The expelling of breath is also appropriate, always to the left.


This is the quote, I did not remember exactly. The left/right correspondences stated still stand. Working to evoke it's backwards. Otherwise to banish its as Ra stated.
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08-21-2018, 05:33 AM,
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(08-19-2018, 10:00 PM)Cobrien Wrote:  
(08-19-2018, 10:11 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:  I think Cobrien is talking about when Ra tells them to blow breathe over the instrument during an intense greeting while she was in trance. But Ra actually tells them to breathe from the right side to the left.



Quote:We might suggest in the, shall we say, future, as you measure space/time, as you begin a working be aware that this instrument is likely being watched for any opportunity. Thus if the circle is walked with some imperfection it is well to immediately repeat. The expelling of breath is also appropriate, always to the left.


This is the quote, I did not remember exactly. The left/right correspondences stated still stand. Working to evoke it's backwards. Otherwise to banish its as Ra stated.

As a side note: the wave formed by moving the breathe from left to right or right to left has a very strong resonance with the Priestess Moon symbol above her head
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08-22-2018, 05:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-23-2018, 01:35 AM by loostudent.)
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Quote:The mind may serve as a resource. (90.28)

The right-hand and left-hand transformations of the mind may be seen to differ by the attitude of the conscious mind towards its own resources as well as the resources of other-selves. (99.8)

Both paths use rituals and stimuli configurated "to reach down into the trunk of mind" but they cause different effects. So this means rituals, visual symbolic imagery, prayers, music, garments ... all this reaching to the unconscious mind. We have already discussed archetype study, subliminal affirmation and the use of intuition.

Every day we face a lot of negative use of the uncoscious mind on other selves - subliminal messages, brain washing, mind control, marketing, propaganda ...
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