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    Glow Away

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    #1
    02-04-2017, 08:14 AM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2017, 08:15 AM by Glow.)
    So hate/fear/anger it all comes from judgement.

    Love is blind because it lacks any judgment, it is acceptance of all facettes.

    Is understanding the balance between love and light?
    understanding takes compassion and love but wisdom too.

    If not what is a concept for the balance between the two?

    If this makes little sense I just woke up with this thought so wanted to see what bring4ths perspectives were.
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    02-04-2017, 10:55 AM
    Judgement is just the negative pole of discernment, I don't think it's inherently bad in itself nor the opposite of love. I think the opposite of love would be "rejection".

    I think fear is the initial reaction (red ray), which then moves into negative judgement, which can turn into hate and anger. Just my opinion in slightly altered semantics.
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    02-04-2017, 02:36 PM
    Love being that which creates harmony and unity I would say that anything that creates disharmony and separation is the opposite of love.
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    02-04-2017, 04:18 PM
    My favourite articulation of love comes from Eckhert Tolle in his book The Power of Now. He says "Love has no opposite". If we look at the balancing exercises recommended by Ra, they suggest that every emotional experience has an opposite aspect. 

    Take a coin toss for example, that instead of having a head and a tail, has the letters STO and STS engraved on each face. Somebody says "pick a side", and so you choose STO.  Love to me is the full acknowledgement that although you prefer STO, the opposite side, STS is an equally valid preference. To take it further, you recognise the STS within your own being. You are the coin itself.

    Love is more a feeling than it is an emotion (a definite semantic issue, I admit), which has no antithesis in my view (which I share with Eckhert).

    I am going to point to a perceived nuance from 42.4 and highlight a point I would like to address.

    Quote:42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

    So the nuance I am referring to is that although Ra affirmed Dons query, they omitted the word "emotional" from their answer. I really don't think that was an arbitrary or accidental thing. 

    I would say that judgement is more a distortion of love than it is it's opposite, and the conventional wisdom is that this distortion is valid and necessary. I think that that is more a consequence of a moral social codification though. When judgement is expressed in a personal relationship however, I think Jade has it right in her metaphysical diagnosis. 

    Also, I think it is worth pointing out a difference between judging somebody and discriminating against somebody. To judge is to reject certain portions of ourselves and project them onto others, while to discriminate is to evaluate whether or not another can be trusted or not, which is more about the subtleties of reading body language and habitual behaviour, and nothing to do with the worthiness of another persons chosen form of expression.

    I hope you are okay, glow. I am going to dedicate one of my favourite songs to you over on the music thread just to let you know that you are loved unconditionally, even if you are unable to wrap your physical arms around the sentiment, I would love to give you a brotherly squeeze.

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    02-04-2017, 04:27 PM
    Love is all that is.

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    02-04-2017, 04:31 PM
    Charles Upton' Wrote:[W]hen Love takes the field, it meets no opponent... Love is not the
    opposite of hate and the enemy of it; where Love is, there can be no enemy.
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    02-04-2017, 04:50 PM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2017, 04:56 PM by Glow.)
    (02-04-2017, 04:18 PM)Nicholas Wrote: My favourite articulation of love comes from Eckhert Tolle in his book The Power of Now. He says "Love has no opposite". If we look at the balancing exercises recommended by Ra, they suggest that every emotional experience has an opposite aspect. 

    Take a coin toss for example, that instead of having a head and a tail, has the letters STO and STS engraved on each face. Somebody says "pick a side", and so you choose STO.  Love to me is the full acknowledgement that although you prefer STO, the opposite side, STS is an equally valid preference. To take it further, you recognise the STS within your own being. You are the coin itself.

    Love is more a feeling than it is an emotion (a definite semantic issue, I admit), which has no antithesis in my view (which I share with Eckhert).

    I am going to point to a perceived nuance from 42.4 and highlight a point I would like to address.

    Quote:42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

    So the nuance I am referring to is that although Ra affirmed Dons query, they omitted the word "emotional" from their answer. I really don't think that was an arbitrary or accidental thing. 

    I would say that judgement is more a distortion of love than it is it's opposite, and the conventional wisdom is that this distortion is valid and necessary. I think that that is more a consequence of a moral social codification though. When judgement is expressed in a personal relationship however, I think Jade has it right in her metaphysical diagnosis. 

    Also, I think it is worth pointing out a difference between judging somebody and discriminating against somebody. To judge is to reject certain portions of ourselves and project them onto others, while to discriminate is to evaluate whether or not another can be trusted or not, which is more about the subtleties of reading body language and habitual behaviour, and nothing to do with the worthiness of another persons chosen form of expression.

    I hope you are okay, glow. I am going to dedicate one of my favourite songs to you over on the music thread just to let you know that you are loved unconditionally, even if you are unable to wrap your physical arms around the sentiment, I would love to give you a brotherly squeeze.

    (  Heart )

    I'm actually really good but thank you anyways. I looked at the time you posted if you were reading my energy I'm not off in a bad way I just ate my first Turkish food and it was so good I nearly cried. It was practically a spiritual experience.
    I'm riding some sort of euphoric high. No idea what herbs were in that but damn!!

    Anyways back to the post.
    I guess that's the judgment I meant regection(of one/a culture/a behaviour) as not as good or equal to you. discernment is wisdom and something we aspire to do correctly.

    Regecting someone/something as bad based on some arbitrary measure formed by a society of illusion. It's non acceptance of part of the whole of valid experiences.

    I always look at the Eden storey. They were of love and innocent/without judgement for themself or others. Then eating from the tree of "knowledge of good and evil"aka judgement they were no longer welcome in Eden.

    I'm not a Christian anymore but some stuff is still true.
    Judge not lest the be judged. Reminds me of so many spiritual teachings about forgiveness and self forgiveness and LOO teaching that there is nothing to forgive really.

    So in my head this judgement = seperation which is the way away from unity.... crap but I guess even judgement and regection is part of the one.... ok more thinking to do.... or perhaps less.

    Gotta go google Turkish cuisine and figure out what the heck I just ate. ??????????????
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    02-04-2017, 04:53 PM
    (02-04-2017, 04:31 PM)Nía Wrote:
    Charles Upton' Wrote:[W]hen Love takes the field, it meets no opponent... Love is not the
    opposite of hate and the enemy of it; where Love is, there can be no enemy.

    I like the osho quote.

    When you love a person all fear disappears. When you are afraid all love disappears.
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    02-04-2017, 05:20 PM
    Quo Wrote:Let us speak about the fingerprint on the window that is called fear. In effect each fingerprint could be labeled fear because fear is the opposite of love.

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    02-04-2017, 06:09 PM
    (02-04-2017, 05:20 PM)Nía Wrote:
    Quo Wrote:Let us speak about the fingerprint on the window that is called fear. In effect each fingerprint could be labeled fear because fear is the opposite of love.

    -`ღ´-

    Nope, not in my understanding of love at least. Love is beyond our intellectual grasp because it is an initiatory sense of unity

    Desire is the opposite to fear. Take the fight/flight impulse for example. Fear impulses us to run as fast as we can or stand frozen, where as desire impulses us to face what we are confronted with. Desire is a movement towards love but that does not mean that fear is the opposite to love. Fear is rather a movement in the opposite direction to love.

    Quo are euphemizing.

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    02-04-2017, 09:44 PM
    (02-04-2017, 10:55 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Judgement is just the negative pole of discernment, I don't think it's inherently bad in itself nor the opposite of love. I think the opposite of love would be "rejection".

    I think fear is the initial reaction (red ray), which then moves into negative judgement, which can turn into hate and anger. Just my opinion in slightly altered semantics.

    I don't disagree with opposing love and rejection but can't help but notice how much some people can radiate both at the same time and so I think maybe they are either not complete opposite or maybe just not exclusive of one another, like they're two different expression of the same feelings, but with inner contradictions within the self.
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    02-24-2017, 08:06 AM
    And yet another perspective (haven't watched the video myself yet):

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    02-24-2017, 11:27 AM
    It may just be semantics when talking about opposites. But I think one might say that separation is the opposite of love. From separation derives all fears.

    And "love" is another problem. It's so full of human connotation. So we might say there is nothing but unity or separation, and from that derives distortion in its infinite forms.
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    02-24-2017, 11:54 AM
    I think Love is the field that permeates everything which things manifest out of. Light is infinite energy.

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