02-02-2021, 01:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-02-2021, 01:36 PM by Black Dragon.)
(02-02-2021, 03:43 AM)Quan Wrote: The Daily Q'uote for February 2, 2021(was trying to take a bit of time off the forum to process, but I just gotta be honest about this one). That one sentence "and the intrinsic value of happiness is quite low" is a dangerous platitude. It is probably one of the only quotes from the material I straight up find false, ignorant, and does not resonate-I get what they were trying to say but they said it in a distorted and potentially misleading manner. Happiness is a feeling close to love. Entails fulfillment and completeness. The paradox is, one can't be in that state 100% of the time at 100% capacity and learn/grow, that requires adversity...but you see, that adversity, the suffering...that is the means to an end-more completeness, more joy. Joy does have the intrinsic value in and of itself. Its the steady state of the creator, and greater joy is the eventual endgame of all this learning and adversity.
"The presumption of the seeker is that all parameters are to be understood and searched out and that there is trail of wisdom to the stars, a series of questions that will lead one to infinite wisdom. This is not so. Wisdom is born of suffering, dilemma, contradiction and pain. The so-called happy times that you experience within the illusion are useful as randomly as are the difficult times, and the intrinsic value of happiness is quite low."
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1102.aspx
"and the intrinsic value of happiness is quite low." Not to pop any bubbles well maybe
"Ra: ....Let us examine the heart of evolution.
Let us remember that we are all one. This is the great learning/teaching. In this unity lies love. This is a great learn/teaching. In this unity lies light. This is the fundamental teaching of all planes of existence in materialization. Unity, love, light, and joy; this is the heart of evolution of the spirit."
I'd say it is actually the suffering that does not have any intrinsic value. It is simply a means to an end of achieving greater states of love and joy.Joy is part of what is. Suffering is part of those things which ultimately "are not". Perhaps misery isn't even so much its own thing as a perceived absence of love, a void to fill? To me, "Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow" means coming down with a hankie and wiping away the tears, offering a shoulder...not coming up with apologetics about why "tears are so great and happiness is for losers so toughen up"(I can tell you the "bootcamp mentality" is absolutely not STO). We are here to transmute the sorrow, not create more of it or talk it up like its the best thing since sliced bread. I mean, to some beings out there it really is quite tasty, but are we here to support them in their desire for static recurring cycles that generate enormous amounts of arbitrary suffering, or are we here to, as I've said, transmute that suffering into something of greater intrinsic value?