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    Thread: Something that is not Love


    Minyatur (Offline)

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    #1
    09-11-2015, 02:26 PM
    Yesterday during a mushroom trip with a friend, we tried finding something that we could not perceive as Love and failed.

    Is there something that is not Love?
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    09-11-2015, 02:37 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2015, 02:42 PM by Aion.)
    The question is misleading. Love is not a substance, but all substance comes from it. Love is an essence which gives rise to Light and it is the focusing of intelligent infinity energy in to finite portions which is what Light is, the prime substance.

    That being said, the distortion prior to Logos/Love, according to Ra cosmology, is Free Will. So it's possible that Free Will is not Love and that infinity is not Love, although love is the direct distortion of both these things.

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    09-11-2015, 02:37 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2015, 02:49 PM by APeacefulWarrior.)
    I'd say no. The Love of\from Intelligent Infinity is in everything, because it's the medium through which our Creator and co-Creators craft our multiverse. Even someplace or someone that believed itself Loveless is simply distorted or veiled into forgetting the Love.

    If there's anything that's beyond Love, it would have to be outside our Octave completely. And we have next to no information about that.
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    09-11-2015, 02:57 PM
    I tend to perceive Free Will as Love.

    The Love of the Creator to know Himself, to let existence unfold in awareness that no part of it will not be Love. To let Himself love Himself, hate Himself, hurt Himself through all that we are.

    The idea that something is beyond Love can make sense as the evolution of awareness is infinite.

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    09-11-2015, 03:22 PM (This post was last modified: 09-11-2015, 03:26 PM by Aion.)
    (09-11-2015, 02:57 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: I tend to perceive Free Will as Love.

    The Love of the Creator to know Himself, to let existence unfold in awareness that no part of it will not be Love. To let Himself love Himself, hate Himself, hurt Himself through all that we are.

    The idea that something is beyond Love can make sense as the evolution of awareness is infinite.

    Well, but in Free Will is the freedom to love. I guess I just see them as different phases of awareness. First there is freedom of awareness, freedom to be aware. Then there is focus of awareness (Logos/Love), stemming from the freedom to be aware, this awareness then set in to all possible gradations. These gradations manifest as Light which is the substance of all awareness being aware of itself through Love. Ra also suggests that these three distortions seem to 'stack' in this way and that all other distortions are otherwise equal except for the particular ordering of these first three.

    It appears to me that they equate the One Infinite Creator with this Triad, known to me as the three aspects from which the Tree of Life emerges, the Ain (Nothingness), the Ain Soph (Limitlessness) and the Ain Soph Aur (Limitless Light). From these is coagulated through contraction (tzimtzum) the first and all subsequent Sephiroth or Archetypes.

    So to me, Nothingness is Infinity, Free Will is Limitlessness, Limitless Light is Love/Logos, and the Adam Kadmon which is the 'name' of the 'body' of the Tree of Life, all the Sephiroth, or in Ra's terms, Light, the third distortion from which all is made in substance.

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    09-14-2015, 03:56 PM
    yes. everything that is not love is fear.

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    09-14-2015, 03:58 PM
    The other part of reality is always that which is not love, you know, for reference. Thats lovingly built into the framework of reality, just so you can figure out what you don't love, since you need the part you hate to find the part you love.

    Everything is love, but with enough love you can find a special place in the reality of love that is not love.

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    09-14-2015, 04:52 PM
    I think this question falls HEAVILY on what one perceives or thinks is love. I fall into the category of people who thinks everything is love. I even think fear is just a by product of love. Fear of not having enough love or fear of losing love.

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