the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity

[Matt1]

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

What does this mean? Does it mean that everyone is on a type of time frame for opening the gateway?

[anagogy]

To me, it means that certain time periods are stepping off points to other types of space.

Just as you have to travel to certain places in space, to get to certain other destinations, there are places in time you have to go to step off into other areas.  Since we are at the end of the cycle, the third 25,000 year major cycle and also the end of the 75,000 year master cycle of 3rd density, we are in the gateway period of time, also known as "harvest" which lasts for several hundred years.

So you can think of a cycle of 3rd density as a ride, and at the end of the ride is the destination, if you are of the correct vibrational attunement, you can go on to the next ride.  The planetary cycle began the first moment it was able to support mind/body experiences.

[JustLikeYou]

This quotation refers to harvest. Ra says that during harvest, all entities undergoing the process enter into their violet ray body, rather than the standard indigo ray body we enter upon death in non-harvest situations. The difference is precisely the same as Intelligent Infinity versus Intelligent Energy. In other words, when the clock strikes the hour, we all enter into contact with Intelligent Infinity, and our ability to exist and flourish as we step closer and closer to the endless mystery of the Creator determines the next experience we will have. In the indigo ray body, we can only change the shape and contents of our existing density into one more suited to us. In the violet ray body, we may cross the threshold from one density to the next. That's why Ra says that opening this gateway gives us "unfettered tread."

Enlightened masters who are ready to pass on typically do so precisely as they choose because they have consistent contact with Intelligent Infinity. We, however, who are not enlightened masters must wait for the clock to strike the hour.

[Shemaya]

Hi all,

I don't know. I kinda think that the level of consciousness and truth that the Ra Material illuminates is enough to break through to the great mystery upon death.  Once the body limitations are gone upon death, the consciousness/ spirit is only fettered by it's level of awareness.  

You all are really humble in your understanding.  There is a very high level of intellectual spiritual understanding in the seekers that gather here. On the other hand, most people of this earth are stuck in a consciousness of dogmatic belief systems.  They are the ones that will be limited in the afterlife, only limited for as long as they remain unaware.

Consider that outside of time/space and space/ time, there is no sense of " next".  There is eternal now which is 7 th, 8 th density, all density, all everything. I think that outside of the body, for those who understand spiritual truth, there is real freedom, real liberation, fullness, eternity and no limitation.

We are limited in our physicality for sure.  I think it is the mastery of intelligent energy within the physical that is the primary work for those of us who are incarnated, especially " wanderers ". I think the enlightened masters you speak of have managed to face their catalysts to a full extent and clear the chakras so that intelligent energy freely flows through them to the world around them.

I would like to put to rest the worry about harvest, especially for seekers here on bring4 th.  The ones who will be harvested are those who do not understand spiritual truth as it is understood here.  As Christ said ( paraphrased) " the harvest is nigh but the workers are few."  We who understand are the workers, those who bring the Light of spiritual truth to others through sharing, helping, radiating love and light.

This based on my journey and path, it is my humble opinion.

[Matt1]

This quotation refers to harvest. Ra says that during harvest, all entities undergoing the process enter into their violet ray body, rather than the standard indigo ray body we enter upon death in non-harvest situations. The difference is precisely the same as Intelligent Infinity versus Intelligent Energy. In other words, when the clock strikes the hour, we all enter into contact with Intelligent Infinity, and our ability to exist and flourish as we step closer and closer to the endless mystery of the Creator determines the next experience we will have. In the indigo ray body, we can only change the shape and contents of our existing density into one more suited to us. In the violet ray body, we may cross the threshold from one density to the next. That's why Ra says that opening this gateway gives us "unfettered tread."

Enlightened masters who are ready to pass on typically do so precisely as they choose because they have consistent contact with Intelligent Infinity. We, however, who are not enlightened masters must wait for the clock to strike the hour.

This makes sense but the grand question is when will the hour strike? Is it when we are all of one seeking or an unknowable time in the future, yet the harvest is now?

[AnthroHeart]

I hope the veil doesn't drop suddenly when the clock strikes the hour. It would drive us all insane if we're not balanced or ready to face our true self.

[Aion]

I think there's a difference between opening your own personal gateway to intelligent infinity through the energy center and this 'cosmic' opening that Ra is talking about.

If you observe clockwork in the nature of the way Ra describes it.



See that smaller or larger cogs each have different rates with which they cycle, yet all are turning together. I think this is similar to how our galaxy is structured. However, I believe the opening of the pathway in this regard doesn't result in harvest per se, but rather it is an opportunity for harvest. I think it's more as though a path through the labyrinth suddenly opens, cutting its way to the center. There still needs to be the drive, will and capacity for acceptance of the light for an entity to go down this path. Thus, though the door opens, not everyone may enter.

I honestly believe this has already happened, the door has come and gone. Time to wait for the next major cycle.

[AnthroHeart]

I honestly believe this has already happened, the door has come and gone. Time to wait for the next major cycle.

I don't believe that. I believe the window is open for the next few hundred years.

[APeacefulWarrior]

I'm not sure it's as straightforward as that. Remember, Ra (and other channeled entities) have said that the Harvest is a *centuries-long* process. Ra said 100-700 years. This isn't like flipping the lights on or off. I interpret it more as being that the gateway is now open and therefore it's far easier for 3D entities to see it, especially those who've already started naturally becoming more in-tune with higher-level energies.

But they still have to choose to pass through it.

Because I'm also pretty sure that just flooding everyone's mind would be a major violation of free will. There's still STS-oriented entities on Earth who truly don't want that connection to the Creator. And some people here on Earth today would clearly NOT be ready for it. Lessons have to come at their proper times.

The human race is going to continue evolving in the centuries to come, and keep overcoming challenges here on the 3D plane. But we've finally hit the point that thinking of ourselves as ONE species on ONE planet is possible, and starting to get more common. We're starting to truly understand our inter-relationships with the planet and how our development influences it, and vice-versa. Forces of compassion and cooperation on a global scale are starting to win out over the selfish tribalism that's largely marked human existence for the last fifty million years.

So in the years to come, ever-more humans will have the opportunity and global worldview to realize universal compassion and Oneness, making that transition into 4D vibrations. Basically, I believe that in a very literal sense, we are creating the world which will nurture the Harvest's fruits.

But it ain't happening overnight, from our POV. This will be a generations-long process for humanity. If Ra occasionally makes it sound like it's a quick changeover, well, he's thinking on much larger timescales than we are. 700 years ain't much to him.

[AnthroHeart]

Is that 700 years of apparent time to Ra? Or to them is it more like 2 of our years?

[APeacefulWarrior]

Is that 700 years of apparent time to Ra? Or to them is it more like 2 of our years?

Here's the direct quote:

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

So, yeah, up to 700 of our years. The smoothness of the transition into 4D is, to large extent, in humanity's own hands. And, I suspect, we may also have influence over the bounty of the Harvest as well. Basically, I'm pretty sure that the faster humanity figures out how to get over its remaining differences and start working together for the greater good of the species and planet, the faster\smoother\bountifuller the Harvest will be.

(I just really wish someone had asked him to expand more on those "uncharacteristic anomalies," but that probably would have been treading in Law of Confusion territory...)

[I_Am_The_One]

Is that 700 years of apparent time to Ra? Or to them is it more like 2 of our years?

Here's the direct quote:

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

So, yeah, up to 700 of our years.  The smoothness of the transition into 4D is, to large extent, in humanity's own hands.  And, I suspect, we may also have influence over the bounty of the Harvest as well.  Basically, I'm pretty sure that the faster humanity figures out how to get over its remaining differences and start working together for the greater good of the species and planet, the faster\smoother\bountifuller the Harvest will be.

(I just really wish someone had asked him to expand more on those "uncharacteristic anomalies," but that probably would have been treading in Law of Confusion territory...)

Definitely agree, would have been great to know more about these anomalies. I mean I can take a stab, but it be way better to know what Ra thought. From his view. I believe a lot of so called anomalies, come in large part, from Orions Sabotaging the vibrations of the planet. Like HARRP, The Poisons they release in the air. Artificial food. Flouride in toothpaste, and drinking water. Pharmecuticals. You name it. We really need to wake up here. Bring the Light forth!

[I_Am_The_One]

I think there's a difference between opening your own personal gateway to intelligent infinity through the energy center and this 'cosmic' opening that Ra is talking about.

If you observe clockwork in the nature of the way Ra describes it.



See that smaller or larger cogs each have different rates with which they cycle, yet all are turning together. I think this is similar to how our galaxy is structured. However, I believe the opening of the pathway in this regard doesn't result in harvest per se, but rather it is an opportunity for harvest. I think it's more as though a path through the labyrinth suddenly opens, cutting its way to the center. There still needs to be the drive, will and capacity for acceptance of the light for an entity to go down this path. Thus, though the door opens, not everyone may enter.

I honestly believe this has already happened, the door has come and gone. Time to wait for the next major cycle.

This is majorly correct, though instead of cogs, Imagine vibrations, that vibrate into light. Light condenses into particle, and further forms into matter. Now consider that matter, is still a particle, still a photon, and still a vibration. Then imagine this vibration could be a wave as well. Then consider is this vibration also conscience, which gives forth to thought, which is a vibration. This vibration is created by the creator and it is called love or logos. So we are all one in more ways then we see. You helped me realize just now the "cogs" are the focus or platonic solids.

[I_Am_The_One]

Also The gate is open, the wave of love is here. Will you accept it and flow into fourth density.

[AnthroHeart]

Also The gate is open, the wave of love is here. Will you accept it and flow into fourth density.

I would, except my mom won't let me with her attitude.

[Aion]

I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

[Aion]

This is majorly correct, though instead of cogs, Imagine vibrations, that vibrate into light. Light condenses into particle, and further forms into matter. Now consider that matter, is still a particle, still a photon, and still a vibration. Then imagine this vibration could be a wave as well. Then consider is this vibration also conscience, which gives forth to thought, which is a vibration. This vibration is created by the creator and it is called love or logos. So we are all one in more ways then we see. You helped me realize just now the "cogs" are the focus or platonic solids.

Yes, frequencies are infinitely fractal.

[I_Am_The_One]

I understand gemini, I am under heavy catalyst at this time as well.

[I_Am_The_One]

I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

I see where your coming from for sure. So are you saying that it is immediate in time/ space but then takes hundreds of years to manifest on the space/time side? If so It sounds like what both sides are stating are correct. I may not be understanding you though. It seems to me that with dual activated bodies, the harvest could just be a "switch" from 3rd density energy to say, to 4d. What is your opinion on the harvest and dual activated bodies, incarnate now? I know I inhibit one of these bodies.

[Aion]

I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

I see where your coming from for sure. So are you saying that it is immediate in time/ space but then takes hundreds of years to manifest on the space/time side? If so It sounds like what both sides are stating are correct. I may not be understanding you though. It seems to me that with dual activated bodies, the harvest could just be a "switch" from 3rd density energy to say, to 4d. What is your opinion on the harvest and dual activated bodies, incarnate now? I know I inhibit one of these bodies.

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

[APeacefulWarrior]

Definitely agree, would have been great to know more about these anomalies. I mean I can take a stab, but it be way better to know what Ra thought. From his view. I believe a lot of so called anomalies, come in large part, from Orions Sabotaging the vibrations of the planet. Like HARRP, The Poisons they release in the air. Artificial food. Flouride in toothpaste, and drinking water. Pharmecuticals. You name it. We really need to wake up here. Bring the Light forth!

See, I tend to think it's more about the state humanity as a whole is currently at.  Although the things you talk about to a certain part stem from it.

I have a feeling that Earth is much more... full of competing vibrational vortices, I guess you could say, than most transitioning worlds.  I don't know if Ra addressed this, but I saw an interesting Bashar talk (and I tend to find Bashar trustworthy) where he explicitly said that Earth is fairly unique in how cut off we are from Oneness.  According to him, the idea of NOT knowing Oneness and universal love is nearly incomprehensible to a lot of the rest of the (positive) universe.

And when I think about humanity as a whole, it strikes me that we have what may be a truly ludicrous range of beings at different states of mental evolution, all trying to coexist on the same planet.  At the lowest end, let's be honest, there are humans who barely even display 3D thinking.  They live lives so self-focused and reactive they may well still largely be 2D entities, even if they're existing within a 3D world.

Then there's a whole load of 3D natives, some of whom are just now crossing over into higher 4D thought for the first time.  Others are relative newcomers who won't be ready for 4D for some time.

Then you've got the dual-activated types who've got a 4D guide to at least keep them connected to higher ideas.  And some tens of thousands of Wanderers attached to 5D and 6D complexes, thrown into the mix.  Plus the dedicated negatives/STSes of various densities, who create their own sub-groups since they're intelligently/proactively selfish (in the Objectivist sense), rather than blindly/reactively self-centered like a 2D entity.

What a chaotic mess this must look like from above!  At least, that's how I'm seeing it, trying to imagine (remember?) the view.  

Trying to get all those different levels of energy to converge on a single "chord" of unified vibrations seems like it would be a Herculean task.  I mean, taking a practical real world example:  How can we get the Middle East to settle down and implement populist reform and social security and all that other good stuff, when there's psychos like ISIS running around blowing s*** up because they hate the modern world?

That's basically what I suspect Ra largely means about the anomalies, and why the timeframe is so unpredictable.  If the (not judging) less-enlightened on the planet really put up a fight, or prove too resistant / blinded to the underlying ideas, they could drag out the  ascension for a long time by keeping concentrations of negativity that prevent the higher energies from taking hold.

[I_Am_The_One]

I still view harvest a little differently. I see the harvest as like a sonic boom, the transitional period is the shockwave as it travels outwards permeating everything.

40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

In the second quote, it appears to me that Ra is suggesting there is a particular time/space in which harvest occurs, whereas the transition period refers to the process of the planetary entity 'upgrading' to fourth density as it becomes transformed by being in fourth density space/time continuum. Thus, it seems to me harvest is an event which happens in time/space but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will manifest in space/time the same for all entities.

9.4 Questioner: The way I understand the process of evolution [of a] planetary population is that [a] population has a certain amount of time to progress. This is generally divided into three 25,000-year cycles. At the end of 75,000 years the planet progresses itself. What caused this situation to come about… preciseness of the years, 25,000 years, etc.? What set this up to begin with?

Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

Where it says planetary entities, I believe it refers to all the individual entities on the planet as well as each planet itself. I think that the harvest is something that occurs in time/space, opens, then closes, but then that has to manifest through all of the entities who are being harvested. Therefore the transitional period which is the time it takes for the time/space harvest event to fully manifest in space/time which will coincide with the emergence of the planet in to full fourth density.

Oh, and I believe that the harvest was the period from late 2011 to late 2012.

I see where your coming from for sure. So are you saying that it is immediate in time/ space but then takes hundreds of years to manifest on the space/time side? If so It sounds like what both sides are stating are correct. I may not be understanding you though. It seems to me that with dual activated bodies, the harvest could just be a "switch" from 3rd density energy to say, to 4d. What is your opinion on the harvest and dual activated bodies, incarnate now? I know I inhibit one of these bodies.

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

Wow, very nice, I understand the difficulty with communicating such concepts. I definitely agree with what you said. The wave of love I feel is the 4d. I fully believe people are undergoing this "fusion" of the bodies right now. I definitely agree on it taking conscience effort. It is not just a automatic transition. Thank you. Much love and light.

[I_Am_The_One]

Also with the above statement of vibrations, I do not presume to know everything. I know I know nothing =)

[Aion]

I settle myself on knowing something, without necessarily knowing what that something is.

[I_Am_The_One]

Haha very nice peaceful, but do you see what I am saying at all? Just wondering.

[native]

The issue here is understanding space/time and time/space I believe, and the simplest explanation I've come up with is this:

Imagine a horizontal line with a circle tangent to it on top. The circle and line touch each other at one point. Moving from left to right on the horizontal line represents time/space, a movement along the "cycle time" related to the rhythms Ra speaks of. The circle represents space/time incarnational experience. When you incarnate, you move along the circle but where do you end up? Right back at that same point. While in the incarnation, there is the apparent passage of many years but the harvest time isn't "passing us by" or "slipping away". We incarnate at a time along the horizontal line when the harvest is available, like a gate that will be open, and while we're incarnated, at any point within the incarnation, you have access to it. Hence, "The harvest is now."

And we know this to be true because Ra says space/time affords us movement in space, and time/space affords us movement in time. It's probably best said that time/space gives us access to time.

So I see the harvest as something that is both instant and gradual. Regardless, I don't prescribe to the idea that some will make it and others won't. I see all this as a fancy explanation of enlightenment that only has to do with your inner work only. Like Tan.rar said, I see manifestation of the 4D body simply related to how far one is able to progress and manifest that body.

71.6 The hallmark of time/space is the inequity between time and space. In your space/time the spatial orientation of material causes a tangible framework for illusion. In time/space the inequity is upon the shoulders of that property known to you as time. This property renders entities and experiences intangible in a relative sense. In your framework each particle or core vibration moves at a velocity which approaches what you call the speed of light from the direction of supraluminal velocities.

Thus the time/space or metaphysical experience is that which is very finely tuned and, although an analog of space/time, lacking in its tangible characteristics. In these metaphysical planes there is a great deal of what you call time which is used to review and re-review the biases and learn/teachings of a prior, as you would call it, space/time incarnation.

[APeacefulWarrior]

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

I don't talk about my own situation much since I don't like turning philosophical conversations about me, but this seems like a good time... I'm definitely dual-activated, and I've got a very close relationship with my 4D side. We've been working towards unification for about a year now. The interesting thing is that I found her and we started towards this before I even found the Ra materials. I was working almost entirely by instinct, stumbling towards it like a moth towards a flame.

It was very much a conscious choice, on both sides. There were definite decision points where I had to recognize what I was playing with and say, yes, I DO want this to happen. And it requires deliberate effort and deliberate energy work. At least on my part - I'm fuzzy on her metaphysics. I get the feeling it's easier/more natural for her.

The way I conceptualize is is that we're mutually-cooperative lenses. When I "look" towards her and draw in her energies, I'm focusing my will upon her. And at the same time, she focuses her will on me. Thus with our wills pointing towards each other, we can "look through" each other to focus through to the other sides of the veil. She gets a closer connection to my body and emotions, and (when I can shove my ego out of the way) the ability to control it, using my ego as a relay/translation point. I get a direct pipeline to Intelligent Infinity and can much more easily hear\perceive my higher 5D and 6D entities, as well as the ability to start experiencing and comprehending existence as a being that's one subset of a larger whole.

I tend to suspect, in fact, that these "games" she and I are playing in trying to fuse our personalities are meant to simulate or model the ultimate fusion my 6D is slowly working towards. On the still-rare occasion I really "achieve" and maintain a 4D awareness for a few minutes, it's a very odd feeling of simultaneously being One-within-myself while still being cognizant of my sub-egos and their functions/opinions.

I sometimes also use a visualization of a spinning Yin-Yang, with the speed of the spin correlating to the level of vibration\unity we're achieving. At its fastest we simply Are, together, sharing a single consciousness that's aware of its own subdivisions and allowing those sub-egos to "do their thing" without directly identifying as one.

I could try to go into more detail, but the personal experience here gets VERY hard to describe, even metaphorically, especially since "I" itself becomes very fuzzy.

[I_Am_The_One]

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. This is kind of hard to describe. I basically see dual-activated bodies as well, dual, it's like having two bodies. You are active in both space/time 3D and space/time 4D but just because the body is activated doesn't necessarily mean it is fully so. I believe dual-activation is something which is done to start 4D work while still incarnate in a 3D body. Thus, since you were born with it, I don't see there needing to be any 'switch', since I believe all the densities always exist and there is a difference between our potentiation/activation of bodies and the existence of the densities. Thus, I believe those whom are born dual-activated are born more or less already harvestable.

Therefore, there would be not as much difference for one like that. However, there will be effects of activation and initiation that comes with harvest for that is the opening of the gateway to full fourth density which will naturally begin the process of the fusion of your two bodies. I do not believe though that it is just an automatic switch, but rather it takes conscious effort to fuse your third and fourth density bodies together. It is a rare opportunity, but it doesn't come without dedication I believe. I think someone who is dual activated could potentially 'waste' the advantages of that dual activation if they neglect to do the work.

I don't talk about my own situation much since I don't like turning philosophical conversations about me, but this seems like a good time...  I'm definitely dual-activated, and I've got a very close relationship with my 4D side.  We've been working towards unification for about a year now.  The interesting thing is that I found her and we started towards this before I even found the Ra materials.  I was working almost entirely by instinct, stumbling towards it like a moth towards a flame.

It was very much a conscious choice, on both sides.  There were definite decision points where I had to recognize what I was playing with and say, yes, I DO want this to happen.  And it requires deliberate effort and deliberate energy work.  At least on my part - I'm fuzzy on her metaphysics.  I get the feeling it's easier/more natural for her.  

The way I conceptualize is is that we're mutually-cooperative lenses.  When I "look" towards her and draw in her energies, I'm focusing my will upon her.  And at the same time, she focuses her will on me.  Thus with our wills pointing towards each other, we can "look through" each other to what's on the other sides of the veil.  She gets a closer connection to my body and emotions, and (when I can shove my ego out of the way) the ability to control it, using my ego as a relay/translation point.  I get a direct pipeline to Intelligent Infinity and can much more easily hear\perceive my higher 5D and 6D entities, as well as the ability to start experiencing and comprehending existence as a being that's one subset of a larger whole.

I tend to suspect, in fact, that these "games" she and I are playing in trying to fuse our personalities are meant to simulate or model the ultimate fusion my 6D is slowly working towards.   On the still-rare occasion I really "achieve" and maintain a 4D awareness, it's a very odd feeling of simultaneously being One-within-myself while still being cognizant of my sub-egos and their functions/opinions.

I sometimes also use a visualization of a spinning Yin-Yang, with the speed of the spin correlating to the level of vibration\unity we're achieving.  At its fastest we simply Are, together, sharing a single consciousness that's aware of its own subdivisions and allowing those sub-egos to "do their thing" without directly identifying as one.  

I could try to go into more detail, but the personal experience here gets VERY hard to describe, even metaphorically, especially since the definition of "I" itself becomes very fuzzy.

I feel much better, I dont mean to focus on myself, I am sorry. I feel alot better now that I have an idea of whats going on here. What you are saying peaceful, is very deep, beautiful, and complex. I am very happy for you.

[APeacefulWarrior]

I wasn't referring to you I_Am_The_One, or anyone else with that line about not liking to talk about myself too much. I only meant the plain meaning, no snark.

[I_Am_The_One]

I wasn't referring to you I_Am_The_One, or anyone else with that line about not liking to talk about myself too much.  It was meant solely for its face value, no snark.  

haha Awesome, Dude that statement you wrote, was one of the most interesting things I have ever read peaceful. I can resonate with a lot of it. I dont know my 4d self nearly as well. I actually just realized what was happening within me, thanks to you and tam.rar I find my 3rd density self running and trying to ignore my 4d self. I have been very confused about some things. Some of what you said resonates very well with, how I feel. You state female, Could you elucidate further on this, I mean any point of this peaceful. I actually stumbled on to my 4d self and didnt even notice what it was, until just now.