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    03-25-2015, 07:20 PM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2015, 05:18 PM by Lighthead.)
    The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)? Right before I wrote this I thought yes, but now, after mulling over a certain thought in my head, I'm not so sure one way or the other.

    This question is mainly for people who have seen this covered somewhere in either the Ra material or the transcripts. However, anybody can chime in. What does anybody think?

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    I'm going to eat my din-din, so I may not be able to reply soon. Thanks.

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    03-25-2015, 07:55 PM
    (03-25-2015, 07:20 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)? Right before I wrote this I thought yes, but now, after mulling over a certain thought in my head, I'm not so sure one way or the other.

    This question is mainly for people who have seen this covered somewhere in either the Ra material or the transcripts. However, anybody can chime in. What does anybody think?

    As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.
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    03-25-2015, 07:59 PM
    (03-25-2015, 07:55 PM)anagogy Wrote: As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.

    I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense. When we're in higher density it all seems so easy.

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    (03-25-2015, 07:55 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 07:20 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)? Right before I wrote this I thought yes, but now, after mulling over a certain thought in my head, I'm not so sure one way or the other.

    This question is mainly for people who have seen this covered somewhere in either the Ra material or the transcripts. However, anybody can chime in. What does anybody think?

    As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.

    The harvest IS complete right now. We're in transition to 4th density:


    Quote:Saturday Meditation: 9-27-08; L/L Research Transcripts

    [b]G: [/b]Yes, Q’uo, thank you. This next query comes from T3. T3 asks, “Is it likely that this timeframe of December 21, 2012, give or take, will be delayed by an increase in positive polarity? And if delayed, is the length of delay likely to be negligible?”

    Q'uo
    : Be that as it may, this is only one layer of our answer. What impacts the questioner, and all of those upon Planet Earth, far more is the harvest that is occurring concomitantly with this turning of the age. The harvest has already begun. It began in your year 1987 in that period called “Harmonic Convergence.” Entities began being harvested when they died from the physical at that time. All were offered the steps of light. Many of those you now call “Indigo Children” are those who have graduated from Planet Earth in the positive sense, have now gone on to acquaint themselves with their new fourth-density homes and have asked for permission to return to third density as wanderers.
    [/url]

    See this thread: [url=http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=9238]http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=9238
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    03-25-2015, 08:41 PM
    (03-25-2015, 08:31 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The harvest IS complete right now. We're in transition to 4th density:

    I disagree, friend.

    That is just when the harvest *began*.

    It is not complete till all 3rd density beings die.  When they die they walk the steps of light.  That is harvest.
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    03-25-2015, 09:05 PM
    (03-25-2015, 08:41 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 08:31 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The harvest IS complete right now. We're in transition to 4th density:

    I disagree, friend.

    That is just when the harvest *began*.

    It is not complete till all 3rd density beings die.  When they die they walk the steps of light.  That is harvest.

    Well, I guess we're mincing words. So that I understand, in those roughly 100 years or so towards a complete 4th density on this planet (within that time frame), you don't think that there will be any Wanderers being born at that time?

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    03-25-2015, 09:31 PM
    The reason I ask for clarification is because it sounds like you're saying the opposite. What you think is very important to my understanding.

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    03-25-2015, 09:57 PM
    (03-25-2015, 09:05 PM)Lighthead Wrote: Well, I guess we're mincing words. So that I understand, in those roughly 100 years or so towards a complete 4th density on this planet (within that time frame), you don't think that there will be any Wanderers being born at that time?

    After the last of the pure breed 3rd densities die off, I think the amount of wanderers being born will drastically reduce.  As for whether there will be none born after that?  There may be some to help with the transition and adjustment to fourth density.  However, I could see the full transition taking longer than 100 years.  But who can say for sure?
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    03-25-2015, 10:25 PM
    (03-25-2015, 09:57 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 09:05 PM)Lighthead Wrote: Well, I guess we're mincing words. So that I understand, in those roughly 100 years or so towards a complete 4th density on this planet (within that time frame), you don't think that there will be any Wanderers being born at that time?

    After the last of the pure breed 3rd densities die off, I think the amount of wanderers being born will drastically reduce.  As for whether there will be none born after that?  There may be some to help with the transition and adjustment to fourth density.  However, I could see the full transition taking longer than 100 years.  But who can say for sure?

    Wow, that's what I actually suspected. Thanks for your response.

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    03-26-2015, 05:57 AM (This post was last modified: 03-26-2015, 09:34 AM by Steppingfeet.)
    (03-25-2015, 07:20 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)?

    Wanderers respond to a need or a call. Their presence is in proportion to the strength or specificity of that need. As that need/calling is reduced due to increased harmony and understanding, I imagine that the presence of wanderers would be likewise correspondingly reduced.

    However, as I survey the planetary situation around us, we don't seem to be in any immediate danger of increased harmony and understanding. : )


    (03-25-2015, 07:55 PM)anagogy Wrote: As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.

    I've wondered the same: does the devoted wanderer have a certain personality profile, or soul template, that would call or even compel them to future wanderings.

    Even if that is the case, I think that after the beating which the veterans of this planet have endured, they may have occasion to reconsider their wandering proclivities.

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    03-26-2015, 09:14 AM
    (03-26-2015, 05:57 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Even if that is the case, I think that after the beating which the veterans of this planet have endured, they may have occasion to reconsider their wandering proclivities.

    Yeah, I wonder is it worth being someone's metaphorical punching bag?

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    03-26-2015, 01:57 PM
    i'm definitely done being a misunderstood misanthropic misfit. would be great to fit in for once.

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    03-26-2015, 02:05 PM (This post was last modified: 03-26-2015, 02:09 PM by Minyatur.)
    (03-25-2015, 07:55 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 07:20 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)? Right before I wrote this I thought yes, but now, after mulling over a certain thought in my head, I'm not so sure one way or the other.

    This question is mainly for people who have seen this covered somewhere in either the Ra material or the transcripts. However, anybody can chime in. What does anybody think?

    As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.

    Wandering through different worlds, living a few lifetimes in each, each as if it was your first. Sure sounds a fun way to spend a part of eternity.

    About more wanderers incarnating, I'd wonder if that won't bring an equal response of the opposion group.

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    03-26-2015, 03:33 PM
    (03-26-2015, 02:05 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 07:55 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (03-25-2015, 07:20 PM)Lighthead Wrote: The question is simple: As this planet transitions more and more towards 4th density, will we need Wanderers to incarnate and lighten the planetary vibration at that time (within the 100 or so years to get to 4th density)? Right before I wrote this I thought yes, but now, after mulling over a certain thought in my head, I'm not so sure one way or the other.

    This question is mainly for people who have seen this covered somewhere in either the Ra material or the transcripts. However, anybody can chime in. What does anybody think?

    As the harvest completes, wanderers will depart the planet and return to their native densities.  However, being the type of soul pattern that they are, they will then "wander" to other worlds whose spheres need lightening.  

    It is their "job" or function (which they love to do) so to speak.

    Wandering through different worlds, living a few lifetimes in each, each as if it was your first. Sure sounds a fun way to spend a part of eternity.


    About more wanderers incarnating, I'd wonder if that won't bring an equal response of the opposion group.

    Who knows.

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    03-28-2015, 04:09 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2015, 04:10 PM by Matt1.)
    I think its possible that when Earth is in 4th density, we will have awareness of the other densities. Those of 5th density will be our teachers and will vibrate using a 4th density body for a temporary teaching/learning. I wouldn't say they will be wanderers in the sense that they will incarnate for a cycle of a density not native to them.

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    03-28-2015, 05:22 PM
    (03-28-2015, 04:09 PM)Matt1 Wrote: I think its possible that when Earth is in 4th density, we will have awareness of the other densities. Those of 5th density will be our teachers and will vibrate using a 4th density body for a temporary teaching/learning. I wouldn't say they will be wanderers in the sense that they will incarnate for a cycle of a density not native to them.

    That seems entirely possible. It seems similar to what Ra has said.

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    03-28-2015, 06:34 PM
    Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

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    03-28-2015, 07:44 PM
    (03-28-2015, 06:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

    I would that STO entities in general tend to choose lives like that. To get mad at the way your life has been programmed is to get mad at yourself. Wink

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    04-11-2015, 10:33 AM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2015, 10:35 AM by Minyatur.)
    (03-28-2015, 06:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

    And then you get out of the veil and you're like... oh right eternity...... what to do...... let's wander again!
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    04-11-2015, 11:21 AM
    (04-11-2015, 10:33 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (03-28-2015, 06:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

    And then you get out of the veil and you're like... oh right eternity...... what to do...... let's wander again!

    Exactly. When you are unveiled, you see life much differently.

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    (04-11-2015, 10:33 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (03-28-2015, 06:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

    And then you get out of the veil and you're like... oh right eternity...... what to do...... let's wander again!

    Probably right, eventually. But I don't think I'd be clawing my way to get back into 3D as quickly as possible.

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    (04-11-2015, 11:30 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (04-11-2015, 10:33 AM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (03-28-2015, 06:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Oh god, will I feel compelled to wander again after this life?
    From this perspective behind the veil, I hope not.

    Or at least have a better life. I don't have to be rich. Just have better and more friends.
    Friends that don't ignore you.
    Mothers who don't verbally abuse you and call you useless.

    And then you get out of the veil and you're like... oh right eternity...... what to do...... let's wander again!

    Probably right, eventually. But I don't think I'd be clawing my way to get back into 3D as quickly as possible.

    Go with Sun sign Gemini, Ascendant Leo and Moon sign Sagitarius. Program yourself a carefree karma which you won't have to worry about so much and enjoy the planet. I'm doing that and it's fun.
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