The mysterious nature of time

[AnthroHeart]

Confused, did you used to have faster internet before it became too slow for you to watch videos? I remember you saying it was too slow, and you used to post a lot of videos.

[Confused]

Confused, did you used to have faster internet before it became too slow for you to watch videos? I remember you saying it was too slow, and you used to post a lot of videos.

You spotted it right, GW. That is the exactly the reason.

I need to wait ages for videos to upload and they eat too much into the available bandwidth.

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The cosmological theory of what is called the Dark flow-- http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/is-everyt...rse-wrong/

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Enjoy the timeless magic and the infinite beauty of the Logos! Maya, the Veil

[AnthroHeart]

That was a beautiful video Confused. What does it have to do with the veil I wonder?

[Confused]

That was a beautiful video Confused. What does it have to do with the veil I wonder?

Thanks, GW!

Nothing in the video that suggests anything of that sort. That is just a mention from my side.

Maya is a word in the Vedic tradition that means illusion. I just associate the veil, in my mind, to the illusion of Maya. The connection to that word is purely subjective.

[Confused]

The Mayan initiation of Transcendence over the Shadow -- http://www.mayamysteryschool.net/pdf%20f...eptOct.pdf

[Meerie]

Were the Mayans then maya, too?
just an illusion?

[Confused]

Were the Mayans then maya, too?
just an illusion?

You know it at your deepest level, yourself!

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Aslan: If the Witch knew the true meaning of sacrifice, she might have interpreted the deep magic differently. That when a willing victim who has committed no treachery, is killed in a traitor's stead, the stone table will crack, and even death itself would turn backwards.

Source: From the movie, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363771/quotes

[Confused]

Jung's Red Book reveals his belief in the painful, personal process of discovering how the unconscious manifests itself in conscious life

The above is a quote from the attached article. To read more, please visit -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...nconscious

[Confused]

A abstract from the attached article:

Abuse in families is an extremely complex problem with multiple causes. Recent research in this area shows that there are certain variables, which add to the likelihood of violence. Researchers are looking at the family system, personal histories, interpersonal skills and biochemistry to try to tease out the factors that contribute to aggression in families. At present, research has determined the attributes of violent men. Not much research has been conducted on women's violent behavior. I use the pronoun "he" in this article as most abusers are men. Men commit 95% of the violence, assault, rape and murder. Of course, in a broader sense, violence is a society issue as we all contribute to it when we do not stand up and say that it is wrong.

http://www.angriesout.com/family.htm

[Confused]

From the attached file: Some say enlightenment is making the unconscious conscious -- www.marlaestes.com/files/Inner_Peace-1.doc

[Confused]

What is polarized light? -- Polarization is the aligning of vibrations in a transverse wave, usually by filtering out waves of other directions. Polarized light waves only travel vertically or horizontally -- when combined at right angles they block each other out and no net light can be detected.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_polarized_light

[Ruth]

What is polarized light? -- Polarization is the aligning of vibrations in a transverse wave, usually by filtering out waves of other directions. Polarized light waves only travel vertically or horizontally -- when combined at right angles they block each other out and no net light can be detected.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_polarized_light

I know it isn't the same thing, but this reminded me of a demonstration I saw at a seminar produced by Kodak back in my film camera days. The instructor was illustrating the additive properties of light. With pigments, white is the absence of color.

Subtractive color: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive_color


But with light, white is the PRESENCE of color.

Additive color. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color

Interesting to study the way light works to allow us to see colors.

[AnthroHeart]

It's interesting how we can only see a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. I think it's like one inch compared to a football field or more.

[Confused]

What is polarized light? -- Polarization is the aligning of vibrations in a transverse wave, usually by filtering out waves of other directions. Polarized light waves only travel vertically or horizontally -- when combined at right angles they block each other out and no net light can be detected.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_polarized_light

I know it isn't the same thing, but this reminded me of a demonstration I saw at a seminar produced by Kodak back in my film camera days. The instructor was illustrating the additive properties of light. With pigments, white is the absence of color.

Subtractive color: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive_color


But with light, white is the PRESENCE of color.

Additive color. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color

Interesting to study the way light works to allow us to see colors.

The subtractive and additive tendencies are very interesting, Ruth. I think they could have parallels with spiritual polarization. It would be useful to study nature to understand the mechanics of polarization, I think.

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It's interesting how we can only see a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. I think it's like one inch compared to a football field or more.

I have never been able to understand what electromagnetism actually is. How many ever definitions I read, the tangible sense always eludes me.

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A fleeting pulse of light has been captured and then made to reappear in a different location by US physicists.

The above has been taken from the following webpage -- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6343311.stm

[Patrick]

It's interesting how we can only see a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. I think it's like one inch compared to a football field or more.

Imagine that my friend, this small portion of the spectrum that we can sense includes what any of our technological instruments can sense, not only what our own biological eyes can see.

By small portion of the spectrum I mean, from radio waves to very high energy gamma rays.

4d is sitting within a portion very far ahead of the most energetic gamma rays that we can detect. Like Ra said there are no 3d instruments that can detect 4d and up.

[Confused]

Fermi Telescope Caps First Year With Glimpse of Space-Time

[Confused]

From the attached webpage

A pair of gamma-ray photons – one possessed of a million times the energy of the other – arrived at virtually the same instant at NASA's orbiting Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, where the Large Area Telescope, for which Stanford's Peter Michelson is principal investigator, detected them after a 7.3 billion year race across the universe. Some proponents of alternatives to Einstein's theory of gravity would have predicted that the more energetic would have interacted with more matter along the way and thus been much farther behind the less energetic one. They were wrong – Einstein wins this round.

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/octob...02809.html

[Ruth]

Fermi Telescope Caps First Year With Glimpse of Space-Time

From the attached webpage

A pair of gamma-ray photons – one possessed of a million times the energy of the other – arrived at virtually the same instant at NASA's orbiting Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, where the Large Area Telescope, for which Stanford's Peter Michelson is principal investigator, detected them after a 7.3 billion year race across the universe. Some proponents of alternatives to Einstein's theory of gravity would have predicted that the more energetic would have interacted with more matter along the way and thus been much farther behind the less energetic one. They were wrong – Einstein wins this round.

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2009/octob...02809.html

Einstein rules! We know so much, yet so little.

[Cyan]

It's interesting how we can only see a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. I think it's like one inch compared to a football field or more.

Imagine that my friend, this small portion of the spectrum that we can sense includes what any of our technological instruments can sense, not only what our own biological eyes can see.

By small portion of the spectrum I mean, from radio waves to very high energy gamma rays.

4d is sitting within a portion very far ahead of the most energetic gamma rays that we can detect. Like Ra said there are no 3d instruments that can detect 4d and up.

I'm thinking that the 3d to 4d transition to be perceptible to a 3d instrument would require the ability to detect microsingularities in the free.

When and if we get to that point then we might be able to detect 4d

[Confused]

We know so much, yet so little.

Since it appears that you have made that statement consciously, you now would probably get the badge called 'An Harvestable Entity' from the Harvesters! :p

As Ra said

16.39 Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

It looks like you have consciously realized that you understand little! :p

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...microsingularities in the free.

I simply did not get that, Cyan. Care to explain further, please?

[Cyan]

Edit: Come to think of it....

It does seem literally impossible with 3d equipment to monitor 4d directly because there would be no measurement and nothing to record and no way to return or to move forward or backward.

[Confused]

Edit: Come to think of it....

It does seem literally impossible with 3d equipment to monitor 4d directly because there would be no measurement and nothing to record and no way to return or to move forward or backward.

I guess it is like trying to capture C-Span on CNN frequency!

[Cyan]

More like trying to capture C-Span on a potato in 65 million BC

[Confused]

More like trying to capture C-Span on a potato in 65 million BC

Ha ha ha! Very true Thanks, Cyan. I get it more clearly now.

Let me see whether I can find more material on the subject of black holes. They have interested me ever since the LOO happened in my life.

I guess black holes are the assimilation and absorption of experiences for the creator, and the white hole is the emission of intelligence into the plenum of space and time for setting up of a 'new' logos, from the experiences gathered. In that sense, the big bang may be a white hole, coming through the closing window of a previous black hole. Just a thought. Creator and creation is too vast, infinite, mysterious for simple logical deductions to unlock the mysteries of the limitless being.

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Black hole could be connected to a white hole? An astrophysicisist answers here -- http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_as...1027a.html

[AnthroHeart]

Here's some videos about black holes. Hopefully Confused you'll sometime be able to watch them:

Pulsars and Quasars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngPfbro3C3A

Supernovas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CznHPfwE6NM

The Universe Biggest Blasts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTVb2mKP9fE

Strangest things in the Universe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-i_Q9eVAhE

How Big How Far How Fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmMTKZh3WHk


Monster of the Milky Way (this one is all about the black hole in the center of our galaxy): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l94By8jdv-M


These are all History Channel Universe episodes. I believe they all talk about Black Holes in them.

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More like trying to capture C-Span on a potato in 65 million BC

Ha ha ha! Very true Thanks, Cyan. I get it more clearly now.

Let me see whether I can find more material on the subject of black holes. They have interested me ever since the LOO happened in my life.

I guess black holes are the assimilation and absorption of experiences for the creator, and the white hole is the emission of intelligence into the plenum of space and time for setting up of a 'new' logos, from the experiences gathered. In that sense, the big bang may be a white hole, coming through the closing window of a previous black hole. Just a thought. Creator and creation is too vast, infinite, mysterious for simple logical deductions to unlock the mysteries of the limitless being.

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Black hole could be connected to a white hole? An astrophysicisist answers here -- http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_as...1027a.html

The mass of matter in a black hole doesn't seem to be enough to create a whole new Universe. So there's got to be more to it. A typical black hole might be 3 million solar masses, which is nothing to the mass of the Universe. But all that mass is compressed to singularity in a black hole, so it could do strange things.

I'm also thinking how it's not really ordered well. It's just random matter that was destroyed by the black hole in no particular order. Certainly not ordered in order to create an ordered Universe. So there has to be intelligence behind the black hole if indeed that's what creates a new universe.

[Cyan]

I'm fairly sure that if you look at it from a top down perspective of 9 densities/dimensions or what ever.

When a black hole is formed in our visible perspective universe it would just compress 3 into 1 point. But in some universe it probablya ctually "moves" from where we perceive the singularity to where the singularity is in some form.

That movement might be able to be detected in some form or another. And transition from 3rd to 4th as the appearance of that micro singularity where the person was standing and its sudden and dramatic dissaperance into "non time/new way of physical direction"

I have no idea if that is true, but, that is about as far as i can imagine we might see 3d to 4d transition with technical instruments. Sort of like a miniature gravity lensing effect that moves superfast. when its created and then becomes invisible.

[AnthroHeart]

"If I fall into the wormhole I see the entire history of the universe outside play itself out to the end. Even worse, as the picture speeds up the light gets blueshifted and more energetic, so that as I pass into the wormhole an "infinite blueshift" happens which fries me with hard radiation"

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Re...ll_in.html

[Cyan]

http://youtu.be/-kVsxVBz1Mg this has been my(my as in found by me but made by someone entirely different, hard to keep the prononuns and such all organized when it comes to material in the Ra spectrum of "sense of self" prefer not to delete but instead explain reason behind original error) most mind blowing, mysterious and all around interesting explanation of black holes.

Especially when you consider the part about the white light with no direction but forward and "something bright" approaching.

Sounds like falling into a black hole just kills you but by "time" and you end up in the whole white area with god approaching" regardless of how you fall into one. YOu just die. The effect is the same anyway. ITs like the drain through which all actions lead to certainly "meeting god" as they say.

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What would happen if you place two black holes next to each other and somehow prevent them from A, colliding, B, separating C spinning.

And all that these two black holes do is remain motionless within close but not touching range of their event horizons.

What happens if the corners of their event horizons touch, can the singularities themselves still "move" outside of the range of the touching event horizons?

[Confused]

Thanks, folks. There is lot of stuff for me to munch there. Should keep me occupied on this topic for some time. Thanks again

[Confused]

From the attached webpage --

Energy makes up matter, electrons are a form of matter, so electrons are made up of energy, which means photons. Light being comprised of streams of individual particles then forces electrons to inhabit only specific energy levels when in orbit around the nucleus of an atom. When an electron gives up or receives energy, it is doing so in the form of giving up or receiving photons of light (of which it is comprised). Since photons are seen to come in discrete packets and not continuous streams of energy, then an electron is limited to exchanging energy solely in multiples of these minimal packets of energy; no fractional amounts of a single photon are allowed. When in orbit around the nucleus of an atom, then, if an electron is to move closer to or farther away from the nucleus (i.e., raise or lower its energy), it can do so only in multiples of a photon’s energy. This translates into there being very specific energy levels that an electron can obtain in orbit around the nucleus. It’s like the steps on a ladder: You can’t climb up half a step. The steps would be the energy levels and the spacing between the steps determined by the size of a photon.

http://blog.peterbaksa.com/post/23574972...xplain-god

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I run in this infinite track of creation for the glory of the One Infinite Creator, the great ALL SPIRIT, the ONE in ALL.