if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from?

[Parsons]

I think the shock of how positive things will become very soon in comparison to the suffering going on right now, when it actually happens, will make many want to stay. Also, I dont think it is out of the question you will be able to go to your previous home planet. But also consider how many may be incarnating from one of the 16 odd races that Q'uo mentioned that are incarnated here. For your particular case GW, I'm pretty sure there is one of the 16ish races, and probably has a significant population currently incarnated here. What if all the people you know in Greater Life are incarnated here with you somewhere? If you can't consider this home, I at least hope you can rejoice in that so many that appear to be from where you are from.

[Ankh]

So we've all got several million years again to make sixth density, for those from sixth?
Assuming I am a wanderer, I wonder why I'd have chosen to do it all over again.
Oh well, 4D ain't gonna be so bad.

I wonder what Ra was referring to then saying that wanderers would return to home density.
I did read another quote that says we can never go home. I wonder if this is what that is referring to.

Our love must have been something incredible to give it all up, and not have a chance at going back home.
We are brave indeed. But it saddens me too, more than I realize.

I feel like this guy here, feeling like he cannot go home.
I certainly don't feel at home here.

Wolf, what other quote did you read where it says that Wanderers can never go home? Let's look at it together.

I won't lie - I have the same fear as you that I will not be able to go home after this lifetime. But at the same time as this fear is speaking and is present within me, I see it. I try to understand it. I try to face it.

(And it seems so illogical to me - why re-do all those gazillions of years through densities again, to learn something that you already know? Seems like a lot of waste of time to me. So I think that we indeed will go home to 6D if we are from 6D, eventually, without having to re-do all the densities between 3D and 6D.)

[Patrick]

70.15 Questioner: I think that to clear up this point I will ask a few questions that are related that will possibly help me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth-density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in the third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.

[AnthroHeart]

Wolf, what other quote did you read where it says that Wanderers can never go home? Let's look at it together.

I was getting this quote mixed up with that line from All Dogs Go to Heaven that said "you can never come back". So that was on my mind.

Here's the quote. It speaks about not going back right away:

The reason that this applies to the graduation context is that in that question that was brought by the one known as J the entities involved felt that, as wanderers from the fifth density, upon graduating from Earth’s third density they would automatically move back into their home vibration. This is emphatically not true, and we felt that this is a very germane point, for all wanderers become Earth natives when they incarnate. The taking of a physical body is the taking of the blood, and bone, and the sinew of the entire human experience. There is no such thing as a tourist in the body on planet Earth. All of you have become natives, whatever your planet or origin or your densities of previous experience.

Patrick, I like the quote you posted as well. It clears up some more things. I surely hope my mission will have been successful. I feel like I'm doing good being here.

[Patrick]

Supposedly I have been here for about 18000 years and this is my 102nd incarnation. I don't care much about this kind of information.

I am just here to BE and my current catalysts have to do with lots of my other selves wanting me to DO. So I compromise by BEing and DOing a little every day.

[Liet]

4th Density Wanderer

* do you feel great compassion for other beings?
* do you empathise to the point of creating self-suffering?
* do you give so much of yourself, to the point of self-exhaustion?
* do you smile, and see the love in all animals?

5th Density Wanderer

* are you attracted to systems of knowledge?
* are you fluent in communications?
* are you accused of being cold and too logical?

6th Density Wanderer

* combines traits of 4th and 5th, and may emphasise one to learn the lesson of balance
* Ra says the majority of Wanderers are 6th Density
* feels great compassion, but also a sense of understanding that this is the drama that others need to learn their lessons

Thought i'd comment with some semi-recently attained information that language complexity, efficiency and fluidity are traits of the celiac plexus (left inferior frontal gyrus if you wanna check it up, "broccas area" lies here).
A few of its other properties include making your body feel heavier, more solid/full and rough.. also turbocharges your ability and will to accumilate/extract information (pancreas).

Contrary to its mirror opposite; the throat chakra, which basicaly increases your will to express... and makes your body lighter/cleaner.
Throat chakra activity, similarly to sugars, take a toll on your ability and will to absorb knowledge and it most defenitely doesnt make you colder nor logical.

[Plenum]

it appears that a large proportion of 6d Wanderers are from those memory complexes that have already been involved in Earth's history. There seems to be some karmic component to this; to alleviate the unintentional distortions that may have been introduced by their involvement.

45.3 Questioner: Can you tell me if a large percentage of the Wanderers here now are those of Ra?
Ra: I am Ra. I can.

45.4 Questioner: Are they?
Ra: I am Ra. A significant portion of sixth-density Wanderers are those of our social memory complex. Another large portion consists of those who aided those in South America; another portion, those aiding Atlantis. All sixth density and all brother and sister groups due to the unified feeling that as we had been aided by shapes such as the pyramid, so we could aid your peoples.

[Oceania]

so different people aided south america and atlantis. who were those people?

[Plenum]

so different people aided south america and atlantis. who were those people?

I'd like to know too ... so that I can call them in my meditations

I need names of 6d entities to contact lol.

[AnthroHeart]

it appears that a large proportion of 6d Wanderers are from those memory complexes that have already been involved in Earth's history. There seems to be some karmic component to this; to alleviate the unintentional distortions that may have been introduced by their involvement.

Are you saying that 6D involvement in Earth caused karma that is being fulfilled now by wanderers from 6D? That our purpose here as wanderers is to take care of karma we had caused?

[Plenum]

Are you saying that 6D involvement in Earth caused karma that is being fulfilled now by wanderers from 6D? That our purpose here as wanderers is to take care of karma we had caused?

I think that Ra calls it duty/responsibility

it seems to be mentioned in a couple of places ... that the high priests in Egypt became involved in government (perversion of spiritual trust), that the knowledge given to the Atlanteans become used for genetic engineering, and that the South Americans became enamored of blood sacrifice (not sure that was the 6d guys fault).

much like giving matches to children and then walking away, I think if the children get burnt, you bear the responsibility of offering some form of healing.

the 6d guys perceived a 'calling' but maybe didn't perceive how hellbent crazy these humans were lol.

[Aaron]

so different people aided south america and atlantis. who were those people?

I'd like to know too ... so that I can call them in my meditations

I need names of 6d entities to contact lol.

Try "Quetzalcoatl" for the South America group. Gentle falcon people... I have no idea about the Atlantis group...

[AnthroHeart]

Was Quetzalcoatl a sun god as well?

[Aaron]

Was Quetzalcoatl a sun god as well?

From the Wikipedia page:

Quetzalcoatl was related to gods of the wind, of Venus, of the dawn, of merchants and of arts, crafts and knowledge. He was also the patron god of the Aztec priesthood, of learning and knowledge.

They are quite bright! Theirs is a very gentle light.

EDIT: Oh! Check out Plenum's other thread: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=5106

[Ankh]

I think that Ra calls it duty/responsibility

Our difficulty lay in the honor/responsibility of correcting the distortions of the Law of One which occurred during our attempts to aid these entities. The distortions are seen as responsibilities rather than failures; the few who were inspired to seek, our only reason for the attempt.

it seems to be mentioned in a couple of places ... that the high priests in Egypt became involved in government (perversion of spiritual trust), that the knowledge given to the Atlanteans become used for genetic engineering, and that the South Americans became enamored of blood sacrifice (not sure that was the 6d guys fault).

As far as I know, Egyptian priests were not involved in politics, but Atlanteans were.

Ra: I am Ra. You would not call them priests in the sense of celibacy, of obedience, and of poverty. They were priests in the sense of those devoted to learning.

The difficulties became apparent as those trained in this learning began to attempt to use crystal powers for those things other than healing, as they were involved not only with learning but became involved with what you would call the governmental structure.

Category: Earth History: Atlantis

[Plenum]

As far as I know, Egyptian priests were not involved in politics, but Atlanteans were.

ah yes, my confusion. Thanks Ankh!

[Goldenratio]

I do feel like I am a wanderer, and like many who do, I wonder at what density "I am from". And honestly, the only answer I can come up with is yes. Ive felt/known that what makes up my spiritual being is what I can only call an amalgam, made up of a diverse host of sources. That might mean that im "made up" of parts of different "souls", or that I have level of connection with a spectrum of previous incarnations, or really anything else.

But I can feel a connection to numerous higher selves of "mine" that seem to correlate to the different densities. Im aware of them quite high up, but past a certain point the ability to communicate even at an energetic level becomes difficult fading to just being a faint awareness.

Im not really sure what it all means. Finished reading the Law of One books a few weeks ago. Planning on picking up a Nexus 7 or somesuch and start going through the catalog of transcripts at work (LOTS of free time as a plant operator).

[kdsii]

You know, I don't think that these entities were ever named in any L/L material.

so different people aided south america and atlantis. who were those people?

I'd like to know too ... so that I can call them in my meditations

I need names of 6d entities to contact lol.

[Plenum]

a further Wanderer quote:

36.17 Ra: I am Ra. The Wanderer has the potential of greatly accelerating the density whence it comes in its progress in evolution. This is due to the intensive life experiences and opportunities of the third density. Thusly the positively oriented Wanderer chooses to hazard the danger of the forgetting in order to be of service to others by radiating love of others. If the forgetting is penetrated the amount of catalyst in third density will polarize the Wanderer with much greater efficiency than shall be expected in the higher and more harmonious densities.

this has definitely been my experience. There is a lot to accept while living on this earth plane;

[Spaced]

I personally feel like this planet has been my home for at least the last 2 major cycles. I feel a very strong link to this planet and it's history.

I've been told by my father who does a lot of past life work that he remembers lives on Mars with me before we came here.

[Marc]

I know its a hard thing to pinpoint since we are all things, but anyways I'm curious...

[Melissa]

Wish I knew, I have ab-so-lute-ly no idea.

[GentleReckoning]

All I know is that I'm not 3d. Which is funny, because I'm clearly 3d right now.

[Jade]

Pretty sure 6th. I've not come here to create or unravel much karma, just to be a pleasant viber, I think. This life I feel has been learning to be able to balance love and wisdom properly, which I've certainly not always done. I also feel like very little Ra says goes over my head, that I have a pretty good comprehension of it, like most things I attempt to learn. This is why I feel like I may be 6th. Not that this makes me feel above or below anyone, this just how my understanding of the densities corresponds with who I am and always have been on Earth. (this all being from our 3D time/space POV) I have no problem seeing all as one and even though it was a bit of a shock learning that I must too truly love what I hate, I still feel like it has been very easy for me to transition into a mode of being in love with all.

[Spaced]

No clue.

[Jade]

Can you edit polls? Obviously there needs to be an "no idea!" option.

[vervex]

My understanding is that we exist on all levels simultaneously, which would mean we exist in all densities. It's also my understanding that we may choose to focus on some levels more than others at times depending on what we're called to do and what we want to experience.

*selects all the options*
Go, go, multitasking

[Marc]

My current pursuation after consulting my higher self is I am at the end of 5D beginning 6D. I am learning the integration of wisdom and compassion now as I often fall on the side of wisdom.

[Brittany]

I'm everything.

[Unbound]

All of the densities!