What really happened in the Garden of Eden?

[Observer]

Hidden_Hand is a pussy cat.

The hidden ones are nearly all gone. They cannot incarnate here anymore.

Care to explain why?

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In women, blood is the vibration of the color red. In men, sperm is the vibration of the color white. Mixed together, blood and sperm are another elixir. It has been the worst heresy to even think that men would touch women who were menstruating, let alone have sex with them, let alone mix semen with their blood, let alone taste it. Yet, far back in ancient times, when the Goddess energy was understood, and when women were revered, this mixture was considered the drink of immortality for men. Men understood that when they drank menstrual blood, or mixed their sperm with it, they became enlivened and invigorated. It was one of the keys to immortality.

I'm pretty open to new ideas.. but damn.
You lost me on that paragraph.

[Patrick]

Hidden_Hand is a pussy cat.

The hidden ones are nearly all gone. They cannot incarnate here anymore.

Care to explain why?

Got the info from poster xen at GLP forum and I just resonated with it. We are too far along the transition to 4d positive for them to be able to stay in our time/space. In time/space the Earth is 4d positive. We incarnate from time/space to space/time. Real STS beings from soul group Lucifer (the Hidden Hands) cannot be in our current time/space. So they cannot incarnate from now on.

Things are slowly going to get more and more positive in our world. It will start with elections in multiple countries having surprising results. It looks like France just got the ball rolling.

[Observer]

Hidden_Hand is a pussy cat.

The hidden ones are nearly all gone. They cannot incarnate here anymore.

Care to explain why?

Got the info from poster xen at GLP forum and I just resonated with it. We are too far along the transition to 4d positive for them to be able to stay in our time/space. In time/space the Earth is 4d positive. We incarnate from time/space to space/time. Real STS beings from soul group Lucifer (the Hidden Hands) cannot be in our current time/space. So they cannot incarnate from now on.

Things are slowly going to get more and more positive in our world. It will start with elections in multiple countries having surprising results. It looks like France just got the ball rolling.

That makes sense. I know for sure that I will end up on a different planet and i've come to accept that. I am not nearly aligned with STO enough to even remotely make the cut. I hope you guys enjoy 4th density positive though, its goona be awesome.
Don't you think these elected officials could be equally as screwed up as the last ones though?

[Ashim]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

[Observer]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

Can you elaborate on why?

[Patrick]

Hidden_Hand is a pussy cat.

The hidden ones are nearly all gone. They cannot incarnate here anymore.

Care to explain why?

Got the info from poster xen at GLP forum and I just resonated with it. We are too far along the transition to 4d positive for them to be able to stay in our time/space. In time/space the Earth is 4d positive. We incarnate from time/space to space/time. Real STS beings from soul group Lucifer (the Hidden Hands) cannot be in our current time/space. So they cannot incarnate from now on.

Things are slowly going to get more and more positive in our world. It will start with elections in multiple countries having surprising results. It looks like France just got the ball rolling.

That makes sense. I know for sure that I will end up on a different planet and i've come to accept that. I am not nearly aligned with STO enough to even remotely make the cut. I hope you guys enjoy 4th density positive though, its goona be awesome.
Don't you think these elected officials could be equally as screwed up as the last ones though?

I would be very surprised if you cannot work with 4d+ light/love. Just being here on this forum is evidence enough that you can.

[Oceania]

i this about what Winston said?

[Ashim]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

Can you elaborate on why?

The Lucificer version involved a Harvest with a split to 4d+ and 4d-.
This scenario will (thanks to the lightworkers) not happen - in this timeline.
Instead of Harvest (in the traditional sense) there shall be a planetary ascension (quite rare).
Everyone gets a ride to 5d.

[Patrick]

Instantaneous or a long process?

[Observer]

Lightworkers <3

[hogey11]

For whatever reason, the idea that resonates with me the greatest in the idea of the Garden of Eden is that "the fruit" may have been all of these things that are mentioned that lead to a greater consciousness. As far as the methods involved, I think it can be as innocuous as a worm being chewed up leading to accrued karma, to a psychadelic fruit that opened Eve's pineal gland for the first time, or even a genetic or biological intervention/expansion from a 3rd party that originated on Mars. All of these possibilities lead to a central point; the end result of the fruit being eaten was an expansion of consciousness that led to new possibilities of catalyst

So looking back on the alleged story of the Garden of Eden, what I can surmise is that the pre-fall populations of 'adam and eve' were likely still evolving into their full 3D forms. I think it may have been the fruit that signaled the beginning of 3D incarnations here; a story to explain the initiation of the veil. The movement from life and awareness to self-awareness and confusion.

It makes sense to me that Lucifer would step in as the Logos at this time. The original Yahweh built the game and put his signature on the building blocks involved; now Satan gets to play around and try to get the most out of it. The great battle within each of us is between the inherent 'Yahweh' imprinted into us against the machinations, designs, and thoughtforms of the external, physical world (controlled by Lucifer/Satan). No matter how tough they try to make the game, that spark of Yahweh within each of us fights back and reconnects us to the OIC.

This also suddenly puts Jesus into a whole lot more focus. He came to 'rewrite the covenant' but why would that be necessary if the Jewish God was all powerful and omnipotent? The OT God is Lucifer in sheep's clothing. That is why Jesus claims he is 'not from this world' and tells the Pharisees their 'father is the devil'. Jesus comes from the Source (OIC), and not from the swell of this certain experiment being played out.

I mentioned in another thread that I felt that Ra actually implicated Moses as a major drop off point for the Law of One philosophy given to the Egyptians, as Moses knew of it and took some of it, but fell hook, line, and sinker for the Orion Yahweh and went forward to create the Jewish nation as we know it today. Again, no judgement towards this as I believe we are exactly where we should be, but I think if anyone 'dropped the ball' from a Law of One perspective, it may have been Moses rather than Eve.

[Patrick]

"...for the Orion Yahweh..."

Are you saying that you believe Yahweh is aligned with Orion ?

[hogey11]

The Old Testament 'Yahweh' included Orion entities pretending to be Yahweh. Yahweh's strategies were by no means perfect and the Orion group was able to take advantage of many aspects of it; thereby starting the corruption we still see in organized religion today.

24.6 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact the Confederation made?
Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 2 — we correct this instrument — 3300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.

So Yahweh assumed the name for a time, but sometime after his influence in Egypt, the Orion influence had come to a point where Yahweh felt they had to shed the name and go nameless. This makes only too much sense to me in terms of the post-fall 'Yahweh'. Sacrificial rites of first born children, blood sacrifices, vengeance and fury... none of these things scream STO to me.

Here's another interesting quote to me:

17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his (Jesus') downfall?
Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.

[hogey11]

Ok after re-reading Ra's mentions of Yahweh and getting back on track a bit, I think the Garden of Eden was the story behind the genetic manipulation Yahweh and those from Mars did to those on earth 75,000 years ago... It is from this point forward that the negative influence begins receiving its calling, which led to the Orion influencing and proliferation of 3rd density catalyst.

Possibly along the lines of what Pickle mentioned - the original subjects (adam and eve) were given a substance or fruit which enabled the genetic changes that Yahweh et al was aiming for. Again, I feel the short answer still falls back to the beginning of the veil (which would match 3rd density's window of 75,000 years). The garden of eden was the birth of self-awareness and the 3rd density mind here on earth.

[Daydreamin]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

Can you elaborate on why?

The Lucificer version involved a Harvest with a split to 4d+ and 4d-.
This scenario will (thanks to the lightworkers) not happen - in this timeline.
Instead of Harvest (in the traditional sense) there shall be a planetary ascension (quite rare).
Everyone gets a ride to 5d.

From the little that I 'feel' that I know this is true. Just as when the Ancient civilization of Mu evolved as One. It is my understanding that Mu left the 'door' open for Atlantis and some made it and some didn't.


And I also believe that it has already happened and We have won the Game of Polarity! I realize the media and TPTB try to convince us otherwise w/ all the propaganda but folks......We made it! We are on Our way Home! Which is why many people around the world have a feeling of being lost. It is b/c their soul contracts for the most part have been fulfilled and it is up to Us to write our new contracts here on Earth. Or shall I say 'create' our own futures?

This is why all the old systems are collapsing. We see the World coming together as One. An example of old systems collapsing would be central banking and the federal reserve. Even if Ron Paul doesn't do it the seeds have been planted and it's only a matter of time before the People take back their Power!

[Ashim]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

Can you elaborate on why?

The Lucificer version involved a Harvest with a split to 4d+ and 4d-.
This scenario will (thanks to the lightworkers) not happen - in this timeline.
Instead of Harvest (in the traditional sense) there shall be a planetary ascension (quite rare).
Everyone gets a ride to 5d.

From the little that I 'feel' that I know this is true. Just as when the Ancient civilization of Mu evolved as One. It is my understanding that Mu left the 'door' open for Atlantis and some made it and some didn't.


And I also believe that it has already happened and We have won the Game of Polarity! I realize the media and TPTB try to convince us otherwise w/ all the propaganda but folks......We made it! We are on Our way Home! Which is why many people around the world have a feeling of being lost. It is b/c their soul contracts for the most part have been fulfilled and it is up to Us to write our new contracts here on Earth. Or shall I say 'create' our own futures?

This is why all the old systems are collapsing. We see the World coming together as One. An example of old systems collapsing would be central banking and the federal reserve. Even if Ron Paul doesn't do it the seeds have been planted and it's only a matter of time before the People take back their Power!

Ron will do it.

[Daydreamin]

in this version of the 'royal and ancient' game everyone 'makes the cut'.

Can you elaborate on why?

The Lucificer version involved a Harvest with a split to 4d+ and 4d-.
This scenario will (thanks to the lightworkers) not happen - in this timeline.
Instead of Harvest (in the traditional sense) there shall be a planetary ascension (quite rare).
Everyone gets a ride to 5d.

From the little that I 'feel' that I know this is true. Just as when the Ancient civilization of Mu evolved as One. It is my understanding that Mu left the 'door' open for Atlantis and some made it and some didn't.


And I also believe that it has already happened and We have won the Game of Polarity! I realize the media and TPTB try to convince us otherwise w/ all the propaganda but folks......We made it! We are on Our way Home! Which is why many people around the world have a feeling of being lost. It is b/c their soul contracts for the most part have been fulfilled and it is up to Us to write our new contracts here on Earth. Or shall I say 'create' our own futures?

This is why all the old systems are collapsing. We see the World coming together as One. An example of old systems collapsing would be central banking and the federal reserve. Even if Ron Paul doesn't do it the seeds have been planted and it's only a matter of time before the People take back their Power!

Ron will do it.

Ashim........I am hugging You with an abundance of Joy right now! I do believe he is w/ out a doubt a modern day prophet/yogi/ascended master of some sort. The guy is SUCH A BRIGHT LIGHT!



And I also just came across the following article that resonates well w/ me. Let me know what y'all think?



Adam and Eve are Yogis? Interesting take IMO

[Ashim]

You'll be astonished to discover just 'who' many of our global figures actually are.
Say no more. Nudge , nudge, wink wink.

[Infinite]

Excellent topic. Well, in all ancient esoteric traditions is talked that the adamic race was etheric. So, the "fruit" it's something that could to make the man "fall" of the Fourth Density to Third Density. I belive that fruit it's a anaology to something (maybe a simple choice, the tree is duality and free will) BUT the real thing was a genetic manipulation to change the body of the adamic race. Changes in the subtle bodies, chakras, energies, etc. to change the perception of the reality. This is my humble opinion. Peace, love and light.

[Infinite]

UPDATE: Man, the synchronicity it's something amazing. I caught a book (of a brazilian writer) to read and open in a random page. In this page is written about the fall of men (informations received through channelling). Second the author, the fruit was a species of GATE to lower dimensions. Peace, love and light.

[anon_guy24526]

i think it was some form of sexual energy exchange
don't want to go into it further than this if you look at it this way the story becomes easier to understand, just take a new look ( they cover their genitals in shame, even tho they were naked before too and so on )
it would also explain how certain "other" beings were able to incarnate here

[Infinite]

The adamic race it was androgine. For this reason "cover the genitals" means the perception that they were "divided" in men and women. Peace, love and light.

[Bosphorus1982]

4d humans lived on 4d earth for a few million years and then they underwent the event called "Fall".