lessons

[1deki]

Hi to all,

Now this has been bothering me for some time so I thought to ask u ppl to share your thoughts with me about this. So here it goes..
If everything, in this illusion we call life, is a lesson then:
1. What lesson should a parent learn when he/she is bein faced with his childs death?
2. What would be a lesson for a cripple to learn due to a physical disability of his?
3. What lesson would be for one bein rapped? (I guess that this could be due to a fact that the carmic circle needs to be closed but that can't always be the case; or can it?)

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not purin negativity on the forum, just wanna hear some thought of yours about this. Guess it is as good as any other question...

tnx

[Lorna]

Hi 1deki and welcome to Bring4th
Your questions suggest that you may not have read the Ra Material, can I ask what drew you to Bring4th?
The answers to your questions, to my mind, are that each lesson is a lesson relating to love, and that the specifics of each lesson are different for each entity

[1deki]

Hi 1deki and welcome to Bring4th
Your questions suggest that you may not have read the Ra Material, can I ask what drew you to Bring4th?
The answers to your questions, to my mind, are that each lesson is a lesson relating to love, and that the specifics of each lesson are different for each entity

I ve been readin LOO for quite some time now and I return to it with joy whenever I can. As in case of many others on this forum (as much as I could ve noticed) my personal quest for the Truth has led me to the LOO. Now, English is not my native language so though I was thinkin on putting this thread in one of my "local" forums I'm more inclined to see how ppl who are familiar with LOO feel about this. I use "local" forums for convincing ppl that everyhing is One and that we are all Creators. Not an easy task to do...
Now, how does A/M relate to love?
and how do my questions "suggest that you may not have read the Ra Material"?

[Lorna]

my reason for making that inaccurate assumption was simply one of the biggest concepts that i took away from LOO was that of personal responsibility and choice for all incarnative experiences, and especially the challenging experiences

for example, physical disability is something that i have close experience of through illnesses and conditions experienced by friends and family. there are differring lessons for each of them in the pain and immobility they experience. for my father for example, his illness is directly teaching him to relinquish control, to truly love and experience the moment and his illness was itself a choice of love - he 'asked' the creator to take away the disability my brother was experiencing and to give it to himself instead. that situation came to pass within a few months. so having seen one person experience so many differing transformations from one illness and disability, imho there is no general answer to the questions you pose.

my apologies if i came across as negative in my response to your questions

[Phoenix]

These are purely my ideas.

Rape may be something to do with sexuality. A person has to confront their sexuality rather than repress it if they are forced to look at it in detail and heal it. This could result from past lives of many kinds. For instance, many lives celibate or something like that. Also, moving a persons life back on course (a healer for example) when it has moved almost irrevocably out of course.

Physical disability, perhaps many lives spent in the worship of the body. Perhaps non acceptance of people of the handicapped sort to a large extent. Perhaps in government or something.

The childs death is a sensitive subject. Acceptance, the ability to let go? If you look at the amount of reasons children can die and adults potential for harming them, a picture emerges of possible past life karma.

[fairyfarmgirl]

Rape is the joy of power of others. It has very little to do with sexuality other than sexual organs being used as a vehicle for power over others and the gaining of negative energy from the victim.

Rape is the #1 weapon used by STS. It is a way to download viral codes into the Chakra and Meridian Matris. It is effective in disabling the Mind and HEART connection. It is an extremely effective way to code to another and then use that cord to control and override the innate programing of the individual therein making the individual an automaton.

As far as Karma is concerned... I find Karma is used as a convienent excuse for Raping. Males love this one as it "excuses" their behavior and they also like to use this excuse by saying that it is the other person's fault because they "could not help themselves because they are male and you are so __________. "

Karma is a card that is thrown about for the ease of the minds of others. They know what they are doing goes against the Law of Love and the Law of One yet they do it anyway.

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Children dying. There are many reasons for death. Some souls choose to be here only for a moment in time. The soul needs a body in order to accomplish the mission. This happens sometimes. Other times the Soul makes the choice that the current incarnation is so far off the origional birth plane that they decide to exit.

In other case the soul is vibrating at a frequency that is incompatiable with the frequency of the Earth and the consensus reality and makes the choice to leave.

Other souls choose to be a catayst for change by their death they inspire change and create a vortex of compassion that raises up the consensus reality of a particular area.

There are many many reasons why children die. The reason is often specific to the incarnation and birthplan.

The loss of a child for the living is often fills one with a grief that is difficult to overcome. This is due to the misunderstanding that life ends with the death of the body. Life is eternal. Knowing that life is eternal eases the grieving process.

The lessons a person who is disabled learns and teaches others? This is infinite in its focus. The reasons are many. In Haiti all the amputees (some who were once quite mobile) is inspiring their friends, neighbors, family members, community, and country to re-consider how they treat others that have disabilities. It is in some areas raising up the vibration of the area and inspiring compassion. As others see and learn what it is to be compassionate they are able to mirror that compassion and it becomes a new way of relating to others.

There are many many many stories of those who are disabled really bringing up everyone around them with their LOVE and inspiring others to be more tolerant, more loving, more understanding.

For others they choose disability to learn something that they might of missed in previous reincarnations such virtues as patience, understanding, acceptance of self and others.

I did not find your query to be negative. It is only through understanding that we learn and through learning that understanding becomes synthesized into Wisdom... Wisdom instilled in the HEART and Compassion Instilled in the Mind...

I wish you well. What is your native language?

fairyfarmgirl

[Monica]

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not purin negativity on the forum, just wanna hear some thought of yours about this. Guess it is as good as any other question...

Hi 1deki! Your post isn't negative at all and these are great questions!

The Law of One provides an overview of why painful events happen in our lives - it's all catalyst for spiritual growth. But the Law of One doesn't go into specifics about particular circumstances.

An excellent book that does delve into specifics is Many Mansions by Gina Cerminara. It's the best book on karma I've ever read! It illustrates many examples of karmic situations, culled from the Edgar Cayce readings. Many people asked Cayce why this or that happened, and the reading provided a clear explanation.

It's important to note, however, that these are just examples. Different people might experience the same event but for a different reason. If you have 5 people who experienced the death of a child, there might be 5 different karmic reasons for it. But, the Cayce readings provide some examples to give you an idea of the various patterns commonly seen.

For example, if you read an account of a mother who lost her child, and the Cayce reading stated that she didn't appreciate that child in a past life, that doesn't necessarily mean that every mother who loses a child didn't appreciate her child in a past life. There might be other reasons. But, lack of appreciation/neglect are just common reasons for this particular karmic pattern.

Many Mansions also does a great job of explaining the nature of karma itself: ie. that it's a beautiful learning mechanism, rather than a punishment. This fits in with what the Law of One says about catalyst. Reading these various stories about loss, pain and suffering helped me a great deal to understand events in my own life.

I highly recommend Many Mansions!

[Peregrinus]

First off, I would like to warmly welcome you to this forum, a community unlike any other on the internet. It is our pleasure to be able to share in your growth and understanding

As to the one question about rape; I was raped and strangled to death in a previous life where I was a female. The only reasons I can think of, that this happened to me, was to help someone else learn a lesson, or perhaps to learn a lesson myself that would be remembered in the future, for I do indeed remember it. This gives me a pre-disposition to being more than respectful of women, always treating them not only as equals, but with much more compassion than I have given men.

Being that this is an illusion, and we only perceive time as being linear, it might be possible that incarnate experiences may be selected any time during the cycle, in what we perceive as the future or the past. This is only my thought, and has not been mentioned by any channelled group complexes, but then again, no one has asked.

[Brittany]

I do not think there is any set lesson to be learned from a particular event. One person might glean something completely different from it than another, just because of the biases they've accumulated. Over all, I'd say stuff like this usually has to do with learning to forgive, accept and love. I choose to endure a lot of hardships as a child so that I could learn to look within for answers and know myself better. There was no one around for me to take my problems to, so I learned to deal with them from within and in turn I began to discover what made my thoughts mine..what constituted "me." But then, that was just one case among millions.

[Plenum]

Hi to all,

Now this has been bothering me for some time so I thought to ask u ppl to share your thoughts with me about this. So here it goes..
If everything, in this illusion we call life, is a lesson then:
1. What lesson should a parent learn when he/she is bein faced with his childs death?
2. What would be a lesson for a cripple to learn due to a physical disability of his?
3. What lesson would be for one bein rapped? (I guess that this could be due to a fact that the carmic circle needs to be closed but that can't always be the case; or can it?)

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not purin negativity on the forum, just wanna hear some thought of yours about this. Guess it is as good as any other question...

tnx

who can penetrate the nature of one's pre-birth programming?

[kycahi]

I agree with plenum that events in our lives, besides being nearly random catalysts, are also from our own pre-birth programming. Thus the "lessons" are very unique to an individual. I put quotes around lessons because we get shaped by experience, which is kind of like hyper-lessons.

Read any of the three books by Michael Newton.

Good question, 1deki. Welcome to these forums.