The Sphinx

[Shin'Ar]

Can anyone tell me if there is reference in the Ra matarial that speaks of the Sphinx?

[native]

If there's anything you need to search for in the material, it's all online here http://www.lawofone.info/

The sphinxes are mentioned http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?sea...&ss=1&sc=1. It's helpful to click on the session itself if you find what you're looking for, as questions on the subject may continue without reference to the keywords you're using.

[Shin'Ar]

That link refers to the tarot card usually called The Conqueror.

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I am specifically looking for references to the Great Sphinx and Pyramid in Egypt. I have read some of Ra's teaching with regard to the pyramid, but I am wondering if Ra has made mention of the fabled ship that the Emerald tablets refer to which is supposedly hidden somewhere within the sphinx/pyramid complex. it is supposed to be discovered when the human begins to achieve enlightenment and will be used to defeat some attacking enemy.

Ra spoke heavily on the purpose of the pyramid and I was wondering if they also mentioned anything about the Sphinx.

[Bring4th_Austin]

They did not mention the Great Sphinx in Egypt in any way.

[Ali Quadir]

Drunvalo Melchizedek wrote about this in his "Ancient secret of the flower of life" books... There's no reference I can find on the internet. But he mentions it in another book that is indexed by google. I have also seen alternative versions where the hidden object is either a library, or a crystal of great power.. That was back in 1988... Also this sphinx is supposedly connected to the face on Mars.

It has always fascinated me... What do you know about this Shin'Ar?

[Unbound]

Ali Quadir basically said what I was going to say.

I think you may find this in relation to that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3Q...re=related

The ship has supposedly already been accessed and utilized.

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I don't believe Ra ever mentioned the Sphinx in any detail, he was more on about the Giza Pyramid.

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Drunvalo Melchizedek's original guide was Thoth, so that explains the congruency with the Emerald Tablets.

[godwide_void]

I've heard before (don't remember where at the time) that, via astral projection, one may allegedly access a Hall of Records (unsure if it was referring to THE Akashic Records) whose location is located beneath the Sphinx, though I'm skeptical of this claim.

[Shin'Ar]

Drunvalo Melchizedek wrote about this in his "Ancient secret of the flower of life" books... There's no reference I can find on the internet. But he mentions it in another book that is indexed by google. I have also seen alternative versions where the hidden object is either a library, or a crystal of great power.. That was back in 1988... Also this sphinx is supposedly connected to the face on Mars.

It has always fascinated me... What do you know about this Shin'Ar?

This is the revelation of Thoth, the Chosen One of the Masters.

Raised I to LIGHT,
the children of KHEM.
Deep 'neath the rocks,
I buried my spaceship,
waiting the time when man might be free.

Over the spaceship,
erected a marker in the form
of a lion yet like unto man.
There 'neath the image rests yet my spaceship,
forth to be brought when need shall arise.

Know ye, O man, that far in the future,
invaders shall come from out of the deep.
Then awake, ye who have wisdom.
Bring forth my ship and conquer with ease.
Deep 'neath the image lies my secret.
Search and find in the pyramid I built.

Each to the other is the Keystone;
each the gateway that leads into LIFE.
Follow the KEY I leave behind me.
Seek and the doorway to LIFE shall be thine.
Seek thou in my pyramid,
deep in the passage that ends in a wall.

Use thou the KEY of the SEVEN,
and open to thee the pathway will fall.
Now unto thee I have given my wisdom.
Now unto thee I have given my way.

Follow the pathway.
Solve thou my secrets.
Unto thee I have shown the way.


The secrets he has hidden, and the keys to unlocking those secrets are in these teachings. U[/size]nderstanding the following are the keys:



Masters are they of the great Secret Wisdom,
brought from the future of infinity's end.
Seven are they, the Lords of Amenti,
overlords they of the Children of Morning,
Suns of the cycles, Masters of Wisdom.

Formed are not they as the children of men?
THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, SEVEN,
EIGHT, NINE are the titles of the Masters of men.

Far from the future, formless yet forming,
came they as teachers for the children of men.
Live they forever, yet not of the living,
bound not to life and yet free from death.

Rule they forever with infinite wisdom,
bound yet not bound to the dark Halls of Death.
Life they have in them, yet life that is not life,
free from all are the Lords of the ALL.

Forth from them came forth the Logos,
instruments they of the power o'er all.
Vast is their countenance,
yet hidden in smallness,
formed by a forming, known yet unknown.

THREE holds the key of all hidden magic,
creator he of the halls of the Dead;
sending forth power, shrouding with darkness,
binding the souls of the children of men;
sending the darkness, binding the soul force;
director of negative to the children of men.

FOUR is he who looses the power.
Lord, he, of Life to the children of men.
Light is his body, flame is his countenance;
freer of souls to the children of men.

FIVE is the master, the Lord of all magic -
Key to The Word that resounds among men.

SIX is the Lord of Light, the hidden pathway,
path of the souls of the children of men.

SEVEN is he who is Lord of the vastness,
master of Space and the key of the Times.

EIGHT is he who orders the progress;
weighs and balances the journey of men.

NINE is the father, vast he of countenance,
forming and changing from out of the formless.

Meditate on the symbols I give thee.
Keys are they, though hidden from men.

[JustLikeYou]

This sounds familiar. I cannot locate the reference in the Law of One, but I believe that Ra was questioned about whether there was something buried under the Great Sphinx and Ra said that the answer cannot be given due to infringement on the Law of Confusion.

[Unbound]

Ah yes, you're right!

[Shin'Ar]

This sounds familiar. I cannot locate the reference in the Law of One, but I believe that Ra was questioned about whether there was something buried under the Great Sphinx and Ra said that the answer cannot be given due to infringement on the Law of Confusion.

I would like to find this Ra passage so I can compare it with other teachings.

[Unbound]

It's a pretty vague passage, to my understanding that is more or less the extent of the topic. They ask Ra if there's something there, he says he can't tell them, and they move on.

[JustLikeYou]

Read through the rest of the books and you will find it. Apparently, the word "sphinx" was not used because a search did not return the quotation. I have no idea where it is in the work. I would also like to say that I could be wrong about this. I know that there was a question of whether something was buried under something at giza, but because I'm not a treasure hunter, it didn't really stick. My vague memory tells me it is the sphinx, but I can't be sure...

[zenmaster]

64.8 Questioner: The question was brought up recently having to do with possible records left near, in, or under the Great Pyramid at Giza. I have no idea whether this would be of benefit. I will just ask if there is any benefit in investigating in this area?

Ra: I am Ra. We apologize for seeming to be so shy of information. However, any words upon this particular subject create the possibility of infringement upon free will.

[Shin'Ar]

Thank you Zen.

Now this is somewhat strange given the import that the Emerald Tablets place on it.

Ra neither takes away from that import by its neglect, nor does it address it.

Ra's reason has to do with the infringement upon free will, so we must ask whose free will be infringed upon should Ra make information about this availabe.

So if we look at what Thoth reveals here, it doesn't seem that the free will of the people of Khem would be infringed upon, because the secret is already revealed. It is still guarded by the key.

The only other infringement would be upon the attackers, should that key be revealed or some event put into action that would keep them from being able to choose somehow what they would do that has to do with this event.

I am not a proponent of the future being set in stone. With choice, all things are possible oiutcomes, and because of the time/space factor, all things are already done. There is a paradox that defies logic and comprehension. So we can neither say the future is predictable or unpredictable. All we can say is there will be.

What the two sources of information tell us is that there will be attackers, and that there is a way to defeat them hidden beneath the Sphinx and the Pyramid. Ra will not offer information on it because it infringes on one side's free will.

Given that this future war is spoken of throughout the religions of the world, and that it involves technologies beyond what man has available now, it would seem to me to be an important matter to study further.


So I would ask why hasn't there been some greater effort to figure the puzzle out?

[Oldern]

Shin'Ar, sometimes I do not understand you. :)

First of all, any time Ra decided to not say something because of the Free Will, he did so because of everyone's free will to believe or not believe whatever their belief system they are having.

If there is a way to "prove" that we are all one, and we are all connected, it is not to be revealed until someone consciously asks for it. Therefore there is no point in giving such information that an atheist might stumble onto, for example.

Also, I strongly suggest that you start embracing the idea of within us being a place, being a "future", where we are headed right now, where there are no such things as incoming enemy attacks and hidden devices used to defend ourselves. The only thing capable of hurting us is ourself. And even that is only temporary, as there is no such thing as a permanent loss.

[Shin'Ar]

Shin'Ar, sometimes I do not understand you.

First of all, any time Ra decided to not say something because of the Free Will, he did so because of everyone's free will to believe or not believe whatever their belief system they are having.

If there is a way to "prove" that we are all one, and we are all connected, it is not to be revealed until someone consciously asks for it. Therefore there is no point in giving such information that an atheist might stumble onto, for example.

Also, I strongly suggest that you start embracing the idea of within us being a place, being a "future", where we are headed right now, where there are no such things as incoming enemy attacks and hidden devices used to defend ourselves. The only thing capable of hurting us is ourself. And even that is only temporary, as there is no such thing as a permanent loss.

I have not said anything above that would disagree with what you have just spoken Oldern. You are suggesting that Ra did not speak on the matter because of infringing on the free will of those still in the process of enlightenment. That is possible as well although that particular quote above does not state that one way or the other. Maybe that was clarified in an earlier or subsequent quote.

Regardless, the reason that Ra did not address the matter is not an issue. The MATTER is the issue.

And you are right. What you speak of is hope for the future. I think I clearly stated that the future is not written in stone. And that all things are possible and that there is a paradox involved.

Now back to the point.

According to many religions there is a possible future involving war and destruction. There is a means of protection from that hidden beneath the pyramid.

My question to you is, "Why would you not be curious about what that might be and if it is possible to locate it." If not for any other reason than to verify the credibility of the teachings of Thoth.

Imagine what affect that finding such a thing would have on this world? Maybe THAT was the infringement that Ra spoke of and wanted to avoid.

[zenmaster]

So I would ask why hasn't there been some greater effort to figure the puzzle out?

Why hasn't there been a greater effort to create our own info, rather than have any dependency on what may have been left? Seems like the more worthwhile, dignified and challenging pursuit.

[Ali Quadir]

Imagine what affect that finding such a thing would have on this world? Maybe THAT was the infringement that Ra spoke of and wanted to avoid.

Indeed... It is easy to conceive that by giving someone a weapon with which to defend himself in a large prophecised war you start that exact war...

It seems important to note that the free will paradigm goes beyond being free to believe what you want.. If a sufficiently authorative person tells you something, your subconscious mind actually makes it true...

A good example is Voodoo death.

[Shin'Ar]

So I would ask why hasn't there been some greater effort to figure the puzzle out?

Why hasn't there been a greater effort to create our own info, rather than have any dependency on what may have been left? Seems like the more worthwhile, dignified and challenging pursuit.

What do you mean by creating our own info?

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Imagine what affect that finding such a thing would have on this world? Maybe THAT was the infringement that Ra spoke of and wanted to avoid.

Indeed... It is easy to conceive that by giving someone a weapon with which to defend himself in a large prophecised war you start that exact war...

It seems important to note that the free will paradigm goes beyond being free to believe what you want.. If a sufficiently authorative person tells you something, your subconscious mind actually makes it true...

A good example is Voodoo death.

Let us remind ourselves that what we speak of here is a Mystery, and I am not sure that it has ever actually been referred to as a weapon.

Thoth refers to it as a spaceship. There is too much unknown to really make assumptions. However, archaeology often provides evidence of proof that a thing did exist or an event did happen. To me that would be the valuable here.

[zenmaster]

So I would ask why hasn't there been some greater effort to figure the puzzle out?

Why hasn't there been a greater effort to create our own info, rather than have any dependency on what may have been left? Seems like the more worthwhile, dignified and challenging pursuit.

What do you mean by creating our own info?

Developing through our own efforts, and therefore releasing dependency on any would-be info/tech.

[Shin'Ar]

Still somehwat confused Zen, unless you are trying to say that we devise our means of defense.

There would be nothing wrong with that I guess, if we had some idea what we were dealing with.

Where would you suggest a person begin in that regard?

As I said, I am not so much interested in exactly what might lie hidden there, as in uncovering evidence of a past that would be akin to discovering Atlantis.

[Ali Quadir]

Let us remind ourselves that what we speak of here is a Mystery, and I am not sure that it has ever actually been referred to as a weapon.

Ok, I guess we're approaching the question from slightly different angles. I speak from the melchizedek reports. Where the "ship" has actually been used.. It's not so much a ship according to those reports. It's a merkaba vessel.. Which functions as a spaceship in the sense that you can use it to travel between the stars. But you could as easily call it a full body harry potter magic wand. It was not used to destroy, but it was a powerful weapon none the less...

I cannot judge the reliability of the melchizedek story. But it taps into a lot of truths. At the worst the man is wel informed and does some creative interpolation...

Thoth refers to it as a spaceship. There is too much unknown to really make assumptions. However, archaeology often provides evidence of proof that a thing did exist or an event did happen. To me that would be the valuable here.

It would seem to me that the alphabet soup companies have already investigated this object. This information may not be common knowledge but it still is public knowledge.

The official story is that egyptian governments do not want unsanctioned research into ancient egypt because people might discover creation is older than Islam dictates. This of course does not stop unofficial research by friendly nations for objects of strategic interest... There are similar rumours about a stargate in iraq which was one of the objectives of the iraq war.

We're only speculating of course. But if such an object exists, then you can be certain it has been dug up by now.

[Ruth]

So I would ask why hasn't there been some greater effort to figure the puzzle out?

Why hasn't there been a greater effort to create our own info, rather than have any dependency on what may have been left? Seems like the more worthwhile, dignified and challenging pursuit.

What do you mean by creating our own info?

Developing through our own efforts, and therefore releasing dependency on any would-be info/tech.

Are you saying, zenmaster, that instead of trying to unearth what the "ancients" or "masters" or os "science" or the Creator told us/showed us so very long ago, we should spend more time listening to and learning from what they are trying to tell us right now?

[native]

It does seem reasonable doesn't it? Speculation on certain story-lines and prophecy removes our creative potential. Whatever may or may not have been said has no bearing on our present abilities. Not to mention if something is false, you're only pursuing some fantasy. We could even say that about certain aspects of the Ra material.

[Shin'Ar]

But the point I am making is that there could be "evidence" available to us that would be valuable.

Just as many archaeological finds have been revealing with regard to making truth out of ficttion.

And I thinkwe are all agreed that there is an elite power in control of many of these matters that manage the workings of them.

I cant speak to Melchizidech, but the Thoth teachings say that there is a key, a trick, a combination, that must be discovered before this can be uncovered. I highly doubt that this has ever been solved by any of the elite.

[Unbound]

I think Zenmaster is speaking right from my own heart.

[JustLikeYou]

Shin'Ar, I suspect that it is the control of this elite power which probably causes the overall lack of enthusiasm in this thread for pursuing this particular piece of information. I am personally quite ignorant about all of this, but it appears that only the vaguest hints can be found anywhere but under Giza. And the Egyptian authorities seem to have Giza pretty well secured. You are right that it could potentially be very useful, but until there is a viable method of obtaining this information, there would seem to be more fruitful avenues of pursuit.

Also: if there is a key or a combination which allows entry, I would think that you'd be more likely to have a concept of what this key might be when you can see the key-hole, so to speak. Again, actually being there at Giza seems to be the necessary requisite to any meaningful pursuit here.

Another point: in this case, it would seem that infringement upon free-will would only be at stake if the answer were affirmative. Therefore, we can assume that this is the implicit answer.

Finally: how would this information speak of our history ala the story of Atlantis?

[zenmaster]

Still somehwat confused Zen, unless you are trying to say that we devise our means of defense.

There would be nothing wrong with that I guess, if we had some idea what we were dealing with.

Where would you suggest a person begin in that regard?

As I said, I am not so much interested in exactly what might lie hidden there, as in uncovering evidence of a past that would be akin to discovering Atlantis.

As far as I'm aware, the 'experiential nexus' is the 'defense'. If that is carried upwards in a balanced manner, there is really nothing to exploit without infringement.

[zenmaster]

Are you saying, zenmaster, that instead of trying to unearth what the "ancients" or "masters" or os "science" or the Creator told us/showed us so very long ago, we should spend more time listening to and learning from what they are trying to tell us right now?

I'd say that, in general, we should spend more time listening. I think Ra's 'hitchhiker' analogy is appropriate to the circumstance of one attempting to move beyond what can currently be appreciated sufficiently, in the current moment.