yeah lets do that! but we supposed to stop it rotating cuz that way we would see it
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(02-10-2012, 03:48 PM)DuncanIdahoTPF Wrote: I just had what I think is a really good idea on a solution to this "moon problem". People have discussed moving it away or... it being destroyed in some way. This would freak most people out, so its not really a good solution unless they all knew what was going on. The sky is not limit. What you observe is an illusion. What did Ra say about higher densities ´hiding´from lower ones? Please read. First contact is a multidimensional event operating beyond levels of human comprehension. The Ashtar Command acts as 'guardian body' of this operation to ensure and uphold the Principle of Free Will for all individual Souls involved in the Harvest. Initially there will be direct contact with certain groups and individuals by their Star Families. These Terran Eagles will act as wayshowers, teachers and mentors to their earthly Brothers and Sisters enabling open Federation interaction with society without causing 'shock and awe', or in any way provoking a negative reaction. This is the objective of the Integration Protocol. The experience that each individual Soul now incarnate on Earth chose as their 'first contact scenario', if chosen, will manifest. This, as you may imagine contains an infinity of possibilitities. For one individual the experience may well have a 'ufo' theme, but for the other, for example, a 'miracle' may happen or a mystical journey may be taken in some form. A large percentage of earths population choose to subscribe to the views of the main stream media and will only 'believe' that which is fed to them via the television screens as being 'real'; thus the media plays an important role during First Contact. Firstly an awareness of the true history of our planet and Mother Gaia shall be triggered. This enables planetary entities to resonate at a frequency more 'in tune' with that of the planet. As an earth incarnate you have spent much of your life within an illusion of separation. This has had a karmic effect on the planet, earthquakes, huge natural 'disasters' are the physical reactions to this dissonance between the human soul collective and the Mother. When the true relationship between earth history and extraterrestrial involvement is to be understood then 'first contact' will initially be a 'historical discovery' about the true past of our host world, Other events, for example in Egypt, will also help prepare for open contact. Through education it will be possible to avoid breaking the Law of Confusion and thus infringing upon an individuals right not to know. We add at this point a reminder that for many individual and soul Groups that 'first contact' may not be from the skies but establshed between 4th density inner earth plane groups. Love & Light Ashim p.s dark city ![]()
02-10-2012, 05:21 PM
Ive seen Dark City a long time ago when it came out... Spooky movie, I need to re-watch it to remember what was going on.
02-10-2012, 06:22 PM
great movie
02-10-2012, 10:15 PM
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Ashim, is that a quote from one of the Ra books? Which one? It doesn't sound like the Ra Material I'm familiar with but I've not read all the books...
02-11-2012, 08:45 AM
(02-11-2012, 08:45 AM)indolering Wrote:Ok, understand.(02-11-2012, 04:18 AM)Ashim Wrote: What quote? I am a clear channel. There is only some residual distortion in my communications with you. There is another clear channel also here on the forum. I have given you a lead. I represent the Sirians. The other channel represents the Lyrans. we are the originators of the Polarity Game. We have access into all levels of your akashic records and to the amino acid based computer systems on board our lightships. We are 'not of this world' as are your Planetary Guardians. We wish to aid you in the coming changes. In fact most earth inhabitants (78%) are really extraterrestrial in nature. This is the information that shall be made available to every soul here on earth.
02-11-2012, 12:55 PM
(02-11-2012, 09:16 AM)Ashim Wrote: In fact most earth inhabitants (78%) are really extraterrestrial in nature. Ashim, there are Deneb people here, Maldekians, Marsians, Venusians, and all other Wanderers whose spirit complex is of third density and higher. 22% native Gaians, huh? I thought they were less than so. What you wrote in your thread "My biggest lesson" was beautiful. What Ra tells us is that, by incarnating into human body one becomes a creature of third density in body/mind complex. These are the rules, which we agreed upon in order to serve. Some of the Wanderers have pierced the veil of forgetting consciously to various degrees though, and some are born with remembrance. What I want to say is that by coming here, incarnating according to these rules, and becoming a third density being in mind/body complex, it is then our Free Will to choose whatever we want to choose during this incarnation. But the Free Will is the first distortion. I also guess that various social memory complexes have their own distortions and understandings, and how they work through their brothers and sisters incarnated here as humans, without infrigement of this Free Will. What their service is. My own distortion is that by becoming a human being, one can use this remembrance, and of Free Will choose to consciously channel love and light to this place by becoming *one* with this place. This is a great service.
02-11-2012, 01:11 PM
(02-11-2012, 12:55 PM)Ankh Wrote:(02-11-2012, 09:16 AM)Ashim Wrote: In fact most earth inhabitants (78%) are really extraterrestrial in nature. Sorry. I can not logically understand the question. There are flaws involving the Law of Understanding. This argument would fail the Turing Test.
02-11-2012, 02:06 PM
(02-11-2012, 01:11 PM)Ashim Wrote: Sorry. I can not logically understand the question. There were no real questions in my post, but more of philosophizing over your post. You could point me to the exact quotes of your confusion, or non understanding though, if you would wish that.
02-11-2012, 02:46 PM
(02-11-2012, 02:06 PM)Ankh Wrote:Tell me a joke that I can not understand.(02-11-2012, 01:11 PM)Ashim Wrote: Sorry. I can not logically understand the question. Then, if possible explain your humour.
02-11-2012, 02:52 PM
02-15-2012, 09:13 PM
/yawn
Fear-mongering.
02-15-2012, 09:17 PM
02-15-2012, 09:19 PM
My main stiff is with the presentation, the idea of an external manipulative force is illusion.
02-15-2012, 09:51 PM
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I assume you're referring to the 'You create your own reality' mentality. I agree with the principle only up to a point and it doesn't hold true on all levels of existence. The fact remains there are beings who desire to manipulate others for personal gain. It may be be part of the grand illusion but is not necessarily the result of the will of the one being oppressed. As far as the moon goes, scientific analysis of the data indicates that Luna is not an entirely natural satellite - exactly who is responsible for its placement is not yet certain, but indications are that it is a negative group of beings wishing to exploit the Earth. I'm not really looking for someone to blame - my primary objective is truth. It's a deep rabbit hole when exploring this world...the Creator is my primary focus, but the truth of 3D will always be a source of fascination.
02-15-2012, 10:53 PM
Saying that because you don't want STS entities to exists doesn't make them not be there. Without polarity there is no motion.
I compensate for this by thinking: If I don't want to deal with them, they simply just don't focus their attention on me but they still exist and enslave the people around me. This is why I support people talking about things like this, to facilitate the removal of STS who manipulate others to a great extent on this planet. I don't know why you think think any of this is trying to make anyone afraid, since I don't experience that in reading about any of this. We are awake and know that they can not possible hurt us in any meaningful way, so there is no need for fear.
02-15-2012, 11:09 PM
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I understand where (s)he's coming from. Many there are who are uncomfortable focusing on the enslavement of humanity, and I admit it's not a pleasant subject.... Yet it remains a life-purpose for many who seek the removal of the oppression to facilitate a harmonious 3D existence. Truth should be empowering and encouraging...it is our greatest strength.
02-16-2012, 02:30 AM
(02-15-2012, 09:51 PM)indolering Wrote: As far as the moon goes, scientific analysis of the data indicates that Luna is not an entirely natural satellite I would be really, seriously interested in reading this scientific analysis of the data indicating that the moon is not entirely a natural satellite, if you could point me to this scientific data? Quote:I would be really, seriously interested in reading this scientific analysis of the data indicating that the moon is not entirely a natural satellite, if you could point me to this scientific data? Luna would appear to be moving at this moment. There are reports of objects moving over the surface. Just found this thread - some interesting data. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread809555/pg1
02-16-2012, 04:37 AM
The enslavement we face is an expression of our self-enslavement within our collective consciousness which comes through in our consensus reality.
For all I can see, those who claim the enslavement are just as much verifying and giving the consent to their enslavement. I work from a principle of microcosm and macrocosm, the existence of controlling bodies are dissonance within the collective mind. Not to mention, the "data" for enslavement is all postulates, and ignores the fact of 6D integration. All dimensions exist simultaneously together, which means the ideal integration within 6D is inherent within all dimensions. There is no external force, just as no being has ever moved, there are just changing illusions which show us the truth of ourselves. 3D is just the effectual realm, where everything is played out, and it has its own limited truth in that way. As far as I can see, the individuals/beings whom are claimed to be responsible for enslaving Earth, are in fact also the same beings which are in the process of Earth liberation. The dark and the light are working together at the highest levels, there is no enslavement, just the illusion and the roles and forms within the illusion. I do not say this out of discomfort at the thought of human enslavement, but because I see the way to freedom as inherent within the vision and acknowledgement of freedom.
02-16-2012, 02:51 PM
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(02-16-2012, 02:30 AM)Ankh Wrote: I would be really, seriously interested in reading this scientific analysis of the data indicating that the moon is not entirely a natural satellite, if you could point me to this scientific data? The best books on the subject are those I mentioned in the first post of this thread. The Wilson books are becoming rare and hence expensive, but they are the best ones as they cover some of the basic data returned by the Apollo missions - he also discusses the reactions of the scientists to the data retrieved. Who Built The Moon is also interesting - it focuses on the many coincidences of the Sun/Earth/Moon system which defies logic and chance. The moon is far too large with a highly unlikely orbit to have been captured naturally by the Earth. Its density is only 60% of Earth, indicating it may well be cavernous within. It's too small and too old to have a hot interior, yet there exist obvious lava flows - but these 'maria' are perfectly level and are all located on the near side - the anomalies and conundrums are legion - the more one looks, the more one becomes convinced that this is not a natural satellite but a way station, and probably a spaceship steered into orbit. Here's a link with some excerpts from Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon...this should whet your appetite. ![]() ![]() http://cgi.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/for...read=22976 . @ Azrael: Your analysis may be well and good for some, here or upon other dimensions, but let me ask you a question. If you see someone starving, do you offer him food? If you observe suffering, do you attempt to alleviate it? Or do you cooly continue meditating and ask the gods to intervene? Perhaps I'm too dense to see your point but I believe in the Bodhisattva principle: to continue incarnating until all beings are liberated. (02-16-2012, 04:19 AM)Ashim Wrote: Luna would appear to be moving at this moment. Cool photos, Ashim...another anomaly to add to the hundreds of others! ![]()
02-16-2012, 05:06 PM
My friend, why else would I be here if I was not here to be of service? My perceptions to look beyond the veil are to give service to others to see beyond duality, for those who are ready for it. Naturally, I feel very much as a Bodhisattva myself, I am quite in to the Dzogchen tradition, but there has always been one principle that I have kept careful track of - that of idiot compassion. I do all I can to bring light and love to the world, but I do not leave it without wisdom. I do not believe in "the gods", so you have clearly created your own perception of what service, and service to self, means to you. To be honest, I would ask the higher self and guides of the individual what they need from my interaction, a starving man needs food, but more importantly he may need the sense of self worth to desire to sustain his own life. Suffering is everywhere, and I do everything in my power to alleviate it, but I do not "alleviate" the sufferings of a drug addict, or alchoholic who is going through withdrawal and needs a fix, that would be idiot compassion. I must always remember that each and every life is going through lessons, and catalyst, and I am always conscientious of Free Will and whether or not my interference would ultimately prolong the suffering or the lesson. I must admit I treat the matter very intuitively, as lives are highly reactive existences.
You are certainly not dense, you are very valid and true in your point, and I am of the exact same mind working towards the completion of this universe and the fulfillment of every life. Does that mean I must work in the same manner as you, or that my manner of working does not work towards that end because it can be confusing? Certainly not, it just means that I am oriented towards particular types of people who may interact with me as catalyst, and so I BE MYSELF, to allow my full capacities as a catalyst to be utilized. Certainly, I can do no more than that, I will not overburden myself with constant worries of every individual, that will just drain the energy I do have to put towards those individuals I can help. It is not selfish, nor is it negative, to keep one's mind free of the EMOTIONAL WEIGHT of the responsibility of "saving the world", because that is just an illusory idea. Everything I do, in every moment, and everything everyone does, in every moment, is working towards the great Plan, we must all play our roles, and express our creative energies which add our own little part to the entirety of the universe. I am pleased to be allied and incarnated with you all, blessings, adonai.
02-16-2012, 07:11 PM
Very interesting photographs. It looks like those stones even skipped a couple times, but you can tell the stone was being tumbled along the moonscape. Whats even more curious is the abrupt course changes one of them made when they interacted with the path of a larger stone. I wonder how heavy those boulders actually are, they look large judging by how large the image is of a 2.5km area.
If you want to "do it yourself", they also post the original source they got those images from http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_browse/view/M109502471L (warning: large images site). I verified for myself that these boulders were clearly moved. You can find them near the bottom of the darker region near the center of the photograph. Its very easy to see where the largest boulder was sitting, then suddenly on its... own volition decided to roll at least 500 meters then stop. There are at least 5 boulders to the south of this larger one that were also moved a significant distance then stopped. I don't understand how this could possibly occur naturally. Azrael, it is good to have you on our general "side" even if you don't wish to delve too deeply into anything like this. I appreciate your posting your concerns about how it could make some people afraid. You are right, if anybody feels uncomfortable reading this, they shouldn't force themselves to. That being said, I find all of this fascinating. If anyone has any guesses on how these stones ended up moving in a natural way, I would interested to hear it. Please include how the one stone changes course after coming up to the path left by a larger stone. This rules out them being high velocity skipping across the surface, as they would simply cut straight across the other path with no problem and also left no impact craters when they first struck the surface. Otherwise the two boulders would have to strike each other from two different angles at the precise place/time to intersect each other.
02-17-2012, 09:11 PM
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@ Azrael: Thank you for elaborating your position. I do see your point and a valid one it is. I do tend to worry needlessly over what I can do to alleviate suffering in the world or even how I might best aid a soul in need. I'm reminded of something someone said about giving someone not necessarily what they want but what they need.... Being oneself is of paramount importance, for then one's potential may flow through without obstruction. Good post. ![]()
02-19-2012, 07:17 PM
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Who Parked The Moon
By Jim Marrs
http://www.newrealities.com/index.ph...18&Itemid=1081 Despite six announced visits by U.S. astronauts between 1969 and 1972, the Moon remains a riddle to scientists in many regards. The solutions to these riddles could indicate an alien aspect of our familiar Moon. Called “the Rosetta Stone of the planets” by Dr. Robert Jastrow, the first chairman of NASA’s Lunar Exploration Committee, scientists had hoped by studying the composition of the Moon, to resolve some of the mysteries of how our planet and solar system came into existence. However, six Moon landings later, science writer Earl Ubell declared, “… the lunar Rosetta Stone remains a mystery. The Moon is more complicated than anyone expected; it is not simply a kind of billiard ball frozen in space and time, as many scientists had believed. Few of the fundamental questions have been answered, but the Apollo rocks and recordings have spawned a score of mysteries, a few truly breath-stopping.” Among these “breath-stopping” mysteries or anomalies as scientists prefer to call them is the fact that the Moon is far older than previously imagined, perhaps even much older than the Earth and Sun. By examining tracks burned into Moon rocks by cosmic rays, scientists have dated them as billions of years old. Some have been dated back 4.5 billion years, far older than the Earth and nearly as old as the solar system. The Moon has at least three distinct layers of rocks. Contrary to the idea that heavier objects sink, the heavier rocks are found on the surface. And there is a definite disparity in the distribution of minerals. Ubell asked, “If the Earth and Moon were created at the same time, near each other, why has one body got all the iron [the Earth] and the other [the Moon] not much?” asked Ubell. “The differences suggest that Earth and Moon came into being far from each other, an idea that stumbles over the inability of astrophysicists to explain how exactly the Moon became a satellite of the Earth.” The Moon is extremely dry and does not appear to have ever had water in any substantial amounts. None of the Moon rocks, regardless of where they were found, contained free water or even water molecules bound into the minerals. Yet Apollo 16 astronauts found Moon rocks that contained bits of rusted iron. Since oxidation requires oxygen and free hydrogen, this rust indicates there must be water somewhere on the Moon. Furthermore, instruments left behind by Apollo missions sent a signal to Earth on March 7, 1971, indicating a “wind” of water had crossed the Moon’s surface. Since any water on the airless Moon surface vaporizes and behaves like the wind on Earth, the question became where did this water originate? The vapor cloud eruptions lasted 14 hours and covered an area of some 100 square miles, prompting Rice University physicists Dr. John Freeman, Jr. and Dr. H. Ken Hills to pronounce the event one of “the most exciting discoveries yet” indicating water within the Moon. The two physicists claimed the water vapor came from deep inside the Moon, apparently released during a moonquake. NASA officials offered a more mundane, and questionable, explanation. They speculated that two tanks on Apollo descent stages containing between 60 and 100 pounds of water became stressed and ruptured, releasing their contents. Freeman and Hills declined to accept this explanation, pointing out that the two tanks — from Apollo 12 and 14 — were some 180 kilometers apart yet the water vapor was detected with the same flux at both sites although the instruments faced in opposite directions. Skeptics also have understandably questioned the odds of two separate tanks breaking simultaneously and how such a small quantity of water could produce 100 square miles of vapor. Moon rocks were found to be magnetized—not strong enough to pick up a paper clip, but magnetic nevertheless. However, there is no magnetic field on the Moon itself. So where did the magnetism come from? The presence of maria, or large seas of smooth solidified molten rock, also presented a mystery. These maria indicate nothing less than a vast outpouring of lava at some distant time. It has now been confirmed that some of the Moon’s craters are of internal origin. Yet there is no indication that the Moon has ever been hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions. Another puzzle is that almost all — four-fifths — of the maria are located on the Moon’s Earthside hemisphere. Few maria mark the far side of the Moon, often erroneously referred to as the “dark side.” Yet the far side contains many more craters and mountainous areas. In comparison to the rest of the Moon, the maria are relatively free of craters suggesting that craters were covered by lava flow. Adding to this mystery are the mascons — large dense circular masses lying 20 to 40 miles below the center of the Moon’s maria. The mascons were discovered because their denseness distorted the orbits of our spacecraft flying over or near them. One scientist proposed that the mascons are heavy iron meteorites that plunged deep into the Moon while it was in a soft, formable stage. This theory has been discounted since meteorites strike with such high velocities, they would vaporize on contact. Another mundane explanation is that the mascons are nothing more than lava-filled caverns, but skeptics say there isn’t enough lava present to accomplish this. It would seem these mascons are huge disk-shaped objects possibly of artificial construction. It is unlikely that large circular disks located directly under the center of the maria like a giant bulls-eye happened by accident or coincidence. Between 1969 and 1977, Apollo mission seismographic equipment registered up to 3,000 “moonquakes” each year of operation. Most of the vibrations were quite small and were caused by meteorite strikes or falling booster rockets. But many other quakes were detected deep inside the Moon. This internal creaking is believed to be caused by the gravitational pull of our planet as most moonquakes occur when the Moon is closest to the Earth. An event occurred in 1958 in the Moon’s Alphonsus crater, which shook the idea that all internal moonquake activity was simply settling rocks. In November of that year, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory startled the scientific world by photographing the first recorded gaseous eruption on the Moon near the crater’s peak. Kozyrev attributed this to escaping fluorescent gases. He also detected a reddish glow characteristic of carbon compounds, which “seemed to move and disappeared after an hour.” Some scientists refused to accept Kozyrev’s findings until astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region in 1963. Days later, colored lights on the Moon lasting more than an hour were reported at two separate observatories. Something was going on inside the volcanically dead Moon. And whatever it is, it occurs the same way at the same time. As the Moon moves closer to the Earth, seismic signals from different stations on the lunar surface detect identical vibrations. It is difficult to accept this movement as a natural phenomenon. For example, a broken artificial hull plate could shift exactly the same way each time the Moon passed near the Earth. There is evidence to indicate the Moon may be hollow. Studies of Moon rocks indicate that the Moon’s interior differs from the Earth’s mantle in ways suggesting a very small, or even nonexistent, core. As far back as 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, “If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the Moon be less dense than the outer parts. Indeed, it would seem that the Moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere.” Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, while scoffing at the possibility of a hollow moon, nevertheless admitted that since heavier materials were on the surface, it is quite possible that giant caverns exist within the Moon. MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, “The Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the Moon’s gravitational field … indicating the frightening possibility that the Moon might be hollow.” Why frightening? The significance was stated by astronomer Carl Sagan way back in his 1966 work Intelligent Life in the Universe, “A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object.” The most startling evidence that the Moon could be hollow came on November 20, 1969, when the Apollo 12 crew, after returning to their command ship, sent the lunar module (LM) ascent stage crashing back onto the Moon creating an artificial moonquake. The LM struck the surface about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site where ultra-sensitive seismic equipment recorded something both unexpected and astounding—the Moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. The vibration wave took almost eight minutes to reach a peak, and then decreased in intensity. At a news conference that day, one of the co-directors of the seismic experiment, Maurice Ewing, told reporters that scientists were at a loss to explain the ringing. “As for the meaning of it, I’d rather not make an interpretation right now. But it is as though someone had struck a bell, say, in the belfry of a church a single blow and found that the reverberation from it continued for 30 minutes.” It was later established that small vibrations had continued on the Moon for more than an hour. The phenomenon was repeated when the Apollo 13’s third stage was sent crashing onto the Moon by radio command, striking with the equivalent of 11 tons of TNT. According to NASA, this time the Moon “reacted like a gong.” Although seismic equipment was more than 108 miles from the crash site, recordings showed reverberations lasted for three hours and 20 minutes and traveled to a depth of 22 to 25 miles. Subsequent studies of man-made crashes on the Moon yielded similar results. After one impact the Moon reverberated for four hours. This ringing coupled with the density problem on the Moon reinforces the idea of a hollow moon. Scientists hoped to record the impact of a meteor large enough to send shock waves to the Moon’s core and back and settle the issue. That opportunity came on May 13, 1972, when a large meteor stuck the Moon with the equivalent force of 200 tons of TNT. After sending shock waves deep into the interior of the Moon, scientists were baffled to find that none returned, confirming that there is something unusual about the Moon’s core, or lack thereof. Dr. Farouk El Baz was quoted as saying, “There are many undiscovered caverns suspected to exist beneath the surface of the Moon. Several experiments have been flown to the Moon to see if there actually were such caverns.” The results of these experiments have not been made public. It seems apparent that the Moon has a tough, hard outer shell and a light or nonexistent interior. The Moon’s shell contains dense minerals such as titanium, used on Earth in the construction of aircraft and space vehicles. Many people still recall watching our astronauts on TV as they vainly tried to drill through the crust of a Moon maria. Their specially designed drills could only penetrate a few inches. The puzzle of the Moon’s hard surface was compounded by the discovery of what appeared to be processed metals. Experts were surprised to find lunar rocks bearing brass, mica and amphibole in addition to the near-pure titanium. Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 — elements not previously found in nature — were discovered in Moon rocks, according to the Argone National Laboratory. While still trying to explain the presence of these materials, scientists were further startled to learn of rust-proof iron particles in a soil sample from the Sea of Crisis. In 1976, the Associated Press reported that the Soviets had announced the discovery of iron particles that “do not rust” in samples brought back by an unmanned Moon mission in 1970. Iron that does not rust is unknown in nature and well beyond present Earth technology. Undoubtedly the greatest mystery concerning our Moon is how it came to be there in the first place. Prior to the Apollo missions, one serious theory as to the Moon’s origin was that it broke off of the Earth eons ago. Although no one could positively locate where on Earth it originated, many speculated the loss of material explained the huge gouge in the Earth, which forms the Pacific Ocean. However, this idea was discarded when it was found that there is little similarity between the composition of our world and the Moon. A more recent theory had the Moon created out of space debris left over from the creation of the Earth. This concept proved untenable in light of current gravitational theory, which indicates that one large object will accumulate all loose material, leaving none for the formation of another large body. It is now generally accepted that the Moon originated elsewhere and entered the Earth’s gravitational field at some point in the distant past. Here theories diverge — one stating that the Moon was originally a planet which collided with the Earth creating debris which combined forming the Moon while another states the Moon, while wandering through our solar system, was captured and pulled into orbit by Earth’s gravity. Neither of these theories are especially compelling because of the lack of evidence that neither the Earth nor the Moon seem to have been physically disrupted by a past close encounter. There is no debris in space indicating a past collision and it does not appear that the Earth and the Moon developed during the same time period. As for the “capture” theory, even scientist Isaac Asimov, well known for his works of fiction, has written, “It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the Moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible.” Asimov was right to consider the Moon’s orbit — it is not only nearly a perfect circle, but stationary, one side always facing the Earth with only the slightest variation. As far as we know, it’s the only natural satellite with such an orbit. This circular orbit is especially odd considering that the Moon’s center of mass lies more than a mile closer to the Earth than its geometric center. This fact alone should produce an unstable, wobbly orbit, much as a ball with its mass off center will not roll in a straight line. Additionally, almost all of the other satellites in our solar system orbit in the plane of their planet’s equator. Not so the Moon, whose orbit lies strangely nearer the Earth’s orbit around the Sun or inclined to the Earth’s ecliptic by more than five degrees. Add to this the fact that the Moon’s bulge — located on the side facing away from Earth — thus negating the idea that it was caused by the Earth’s gravitational pull — makes for an off-balanced world. It seems impossible that such an oddity could naturally fall into such a precise and circular orbit. It is a fascinating conundrum as articulated by science writer William Roy Shelton, who wrote, “It is important to remember that something had to put the Moon at or near its present circular pattern around the Earth. Just as an Apollo spacecraft circling the Earth every 90 minutes while 100 miles high has to have a velocity of roughly 18,000 miles per hour to stay in orbit, so something had to give the Moon the precisely required velocity for its weight and altitude … The point—and it is one seldom noted in considering the origin of the Moon — is that it is extremely unlikely that any object would just stumble into the right combination of factors required to stay in orbit. ‘Something’ had to put the Moon at its altitude, on its course and at its speed. The question is: what was that ‘something’?” If the precise and stationary orbit of the Moon is seen as sheer coincidence, is it also coincidence that the Moon is at just the right distance from the Earth to completely cover the Sun during an eclipse? While the diameter of the Moon is a mere 2,160 miles against the Sun’s gigantic 864,000 miles, it is nevertheless in just the proper position to block out all but the Sun’s flaming corona when it moves between the Sun and the Earth. Asimov explained: “There is no astronomical reason why the Moon and the Sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion.” Is it merely coincidence? How does one explain this and many other Moon mysteries? In July 1970, two Russian scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, published an article in the Soviet journal Sputnik entitled “Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?” They advanced the theory that the Moon is not a completely natural world, but a planetoid that was hollowed out eons ago in the far reaches of space by intelligent beings possessing a technology far superior to ours. Huge machines were used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon, spewing the molten refuse onto the surface. Protected by a hull-like inner shell plus a reconstructed outer shell of metallic rocky junk, this gigantic craft was steered through the cosmos and finally parked in orbit around the Earth. In their article Vasin and Shcherbakov wrote, “Abandoning the traditional paths of ‘common sense,’ we have plunged into what may at first sight seem to be unbridled and irresponsible fantasy. But the more minutely we go into all the information gathered by man about the Moon, the more we are convinced that there is not a single fact to rule out our supposition. Not only that, but many things so far considered to be lunar enigmas are explainable in the light of this new hypothesis.” Outrageous as the spaceship moon theory might first appear, consider how this model reconciles all of the mysteries of the Moon. It would explain why the Moon gives evidence of being much older than the Earth and perhaps even our solar system and why there are three distinct layers within the Moon, with the densest materials in the outside layer, exactly as one would expect of the “hull” of a spacecraft. It could also explain why no sign of water has been found on the Moon’s surface, yet there is evidence it exists deep inside. This theory also would explain the strange maria and mascons, perhaps the remnants of the machinery used to hollow out the Moon. The idea of an artificial satellite could explain the odd, rhythmic “moonquakes” as artificial constructs reacting the same way during periods of stress from the Earth’s pull. And artificial equipment beneath the Moon’s surface might be the source of the gas clouds that have been observed. Intelligent “terraforming” of the Moon could prove the solution to the argument between “hot moon” and “cold moon” scientists — they are both right! The Moon originally was a cold world, which was transformed into a spacecraft by artificially heating and expelling vast quantities of its interior. This theory also could explain the seeming contradictions over the question of a hollow moon. If the Moon originally was a solid world which was artificially hollowed out, there would be evidence of both phases—exactly what we have with current Moon knowledge. An artificially hollowed-out Moon would explain why the satellite rings like a bell for hours after struck and why specimens of tough, refractory metals such as titanium, chromium and circonium; “rust-proof” iron; Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 have been found there. In fact, the spaceship moon theory may come closer than any other in reconciling the questions over the origin and amazing orbit of the Moon. But we are not supposed to consider this thesis. The circular logic of modern science regarding the origins of the Moon runs something like this: We know that extraterrestrials don’t exist but we do know that the Moon exists and has been mentioned throughout human history. We humans did not create it or place it in Earth’s orbit, so it must have been done by extraterrestrials. But since we know they don’t exist, we will simply call it an anomaly and will not publicly say anything more about this.
02-20-2012, 04:14 PM
Just read your post indolering, very informative, thank you.
02-20-2012, 06:24 PM
06-16-2012, 07:00 PM
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0923.aspx Wrote:E: The sun and moon have a great deal of influence on us and is it by accident or design that they are the same size in the sky? That is, the moon perfectly superimposes the sun. I found this quote interesting since its the first time I can remember Ra/Q'uo give a "I don't know" answer to anything. |
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