Whoa, Nelly!!!!! LSD used in Ra channeling sessions????

[Questioner]

Stay tuned for more

That's pretty much the L/L Research motto, isn't it?

[Richard]

Whatever Carla experimented with back then is her business. I played around with drugs a bit in my halcyon days too. But their use does not invalidate 35 + yrs of work on L/L Research’s part. To some it might…if they were looking for a reason.

Use your own discretion

Richard

[Monica]

I'm pretty sure the LSD use occurred after the moon base session (session 8), so I don't think it's relevant to the question of whether the moon base information is distorted or not.

Don't we already have a thread devoted to the moon base debate? Can someone please direct me to it? I found something on it I want to post, and I want to post a link here to that other thread, so whoever's interested in that topic can check out the discussion.

[βαθμιαίος]

Don't we already have a thread devoted to the moon base debate? Can someone please direct me to it? I found something on it I want to post, and I want to post a link here to that other thread, so whoever's interested in that topic can check out the discussion.

That discussion was part of the "Understanding Carla's challenge in the name of Christ" thread, starting around here.

[Questioner]

Don't we already have a thread devoted to the moon base debate? Can someone please direct me to it? I found something on it I want to post, and I want to post a link here to that other thread, so whoever's interested in that topic can check out the discussion.

That discussion was part of the "Understanding Carla's challenge in the name of Christ" thread, starting around here.

I'd still like to see a separate thread on the "moonbase/unbelievable" theme. There's some material about that in the Ra books and a specific discussion of the alternate-timeline concept in Secrets of the UFO.

I'll go ahead and start the thread now.

[Monica]

That discussion was part of the "Understanding Carla's challenge in the name of Christ" thread, starting around here.

There's another thread I'm thinking of...maybe not just about the moon base, but about 'controversial' topics in the Law of One. Started by 3D or Lavazza, maybe?

[Questioner]

There's another thread I'm thinking of...maybe not just about the moon base, but about 'controversial' topics in the Law of One. Started by 3D or Lavazza, maybe?

Well, I just added one and if it's a duplicate, please merge it.

[Monica]

Well, I just added one and if it's a duplicate, please merge it.

OK no prob.

[Dekalb_Blues]

Peregrine, old boy-- through my spies I have been able to obtain a brief snippet of hitherto-unseen footage showing certain singular activities transpiring chez Carla's preliminary to Session 18.  I caution you to gird yourself, for what is depicted is shocking indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3o4eegz...Q&index=24  
[This fantastic video has gone down the memory hole, alas. It showed a brief black-and-white ca. early-1950's Mouseketeers Show scene, with the squeakily-clean-cut kids (with Annette Funicello intended as "Carla") wearing Mickey Mouse hats, majestically group-dancing whilst perfectly synched to the Beatles' "I Am The Walrus" ("I am he as you are he as you are me / And we are all together / See how they run like pigs from a gun see how they fly / I'm crying..."). A truly glorious and surreal spectacle. I'll have to fall back on the following pale-by-comparison Twiggy vid to hint at the vibe of just what caliber of abyssal depravity and drug-fuelled debauchery was to be found depicted in the now-lost vid. BTW, the Twiggy needs to be updated to, say, Taylor Swift:]

 
One can only surmise that Carla's impeccability as a Seeker allowed her to pass through this ordeal unscathed.  Even Wanderers-- whilst embodied here-- are only human.



Wow, the things one finds floating around YouTubez in a purple haze:



 (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hidan_of_Maukbeiangjow , http://www.williamgirdler.com/carlar2.html

 -- the young Carla is adorable in this campy/goofy sci-fi cult-spoofing flick! Alas, all the truly revelatory stills from this extravaganza seem to have been scrubbed from the internetz by Agents Unknown; you'll just have to get hold of the film itself to see, for instance, her character Ruthie's titillatingly clever hands-free method of answering a phone.)

Cheers!

[Agua del Cielo]

Daer fellow seekers!
Although this an olderpost, there seems to be some importance to me, especially in an aspect that has not been cobered in the discussion yet:
I perfectly understand the irritation, that the possible or suspected use of lsd during the channeling session has caused.
(I wouldnt be irritated even if each and every session would have been channeled under lsd influence, but thats another story)
That basic concern seems to be, that the information could be distorted by the substance use.
For me, there seems to be an unspoken tendency to take each and every word in the Ra material literally as a higher law, as absolute truth. A little bit like The Bible would be used by lets say "christian fundamentalists".(I apologize for this comparison, no offense intended, its just to clarify my point of view).
I think one should ones OWN DISCERNMENT as the very last instance in this journey.

One could consider how utterly difficult it is, to "translate" 6th density concepts to a 3rd density human being behind the veil. It is close to impossible not to distort the information.
Simply because lots of these concepts are only barely touchable by our mind.

Now consider The channeler having a bad day, or lacking the vocabulary or speaking about a subject where he might be heavily blocked or biased. This adds to the difficulty in the translation process.

Secondly and at least as important: one reads and understand through the lens of ones current stage of developement. Which means, the process of understanding is being heavily influenced by ones own experiences, biases and limitations.

A little example would be: if one would have an inner resistance to deal with difficult emotional material (probably being caused by earlier traumas, which one is not yet ready to face), one could very easily completely ignore, that in almost every session the importance of dealing with ones emotions is being adressed.
(That happened to me with the seth material. I took a very intellectual approach to it, when I read itin my twenties.dealing with emotions didnt seem to be talked about much.
When I had enjoyed some therapy in my thirties, I re-read it and, bingo, the books were full of emotional subjects. I could have sworn, this wasnt in the books when I first readthem).

Re- reading material such as the Ra material after some time has passed will usually reveal completely new dimensions, due to the growth in consciousness one has made.

So, I think its important, to really use ones discernment. One could take anything that rings true as a "working hypothesis" for ones one examination, being ready to adjust ones concepts and growing in understanding.
Everything that feels odd could be discarded, maybe it can be helpful at a latertime.