More Elenin

[Monica]

Have you checked the link I posted? http://thechaniproject.com/forum/index.p...ic=356.100 Reply #105

Not yet...will do.

[loop]

I've also watched the more recent video from the same channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgQ_AjyTg...re=related

I know about this type of cnahhels for at least 3-4 years. They speak of reptilians and so on, but I somehow don't trust them really. These generally have very little in common with what we know from the LOO and it is the LOO which is my primary guideline since I know it. Until then, i was looking at such channels but were never satisfied. Besides the LOO, I know of two threads originating from the ruling family members ("window of opportunity") - they all quoted the LOO as the lowest distorsion source of truth and they had relatively reasonable information (~50% non distorted, the rest being with STS goals behind)

What do you think about them? There are so many people out there publishing channeled information with this & similar patterns. Do you think these channels are real? Could it be a largely propagated distorsion within the "instruments"? Could it be real channels who's goal is disinformation?

TBH, this is probably the only community to ask this and expect proper input.

[zenmaster]

Knowing what I know about him - ie. that he believes NASA to be corrupt etc. - for him to dismiss the conspiracy theories about Elenin, is very significant, in my opinion. This puts him in the 'reliable' category for me.

Gotta add this - First, what's being dismissed can be seen as a straw man argument in the first place. So that meaningless action does nothing to reinforce reliability. Second, the conspiracy theories he's dismissing are ones that do not promote or tend to confuse his own conspiracy theory.

[Monica]

Gotta add this - First, what's being dismissed can be seen as a straw man argument in the first place. So that meaningless action does nothing to reinforce reliability. Second, the conspiracy theories he's dismissing are ones that do not promote or tend to confuse his own conspiracy theory.

I can see you don't respect his work. I do. His conclusions might not all be correct, but I believe his work to have value.

[3DMonkey]

Gotta add this - First, what's being dismissed can be seen as a straw man argument in the first place. So that meaningless action does nothing to reinforce reliability. Second, the conspiracy theories he's dismissing are ones that do not promote or tend to confuse his own conspiracy theory.

I can see you don't respect his work. I do. His conclusions might not all be correct, but I believe his work to have value.

It is important to ask the questions he asks. To leave the questions unanswered would be a service to others.

[Monica]

It is important to ask the questions he asks. To leave the questions unanswered would be a service to others.

Did you intend to say, disservice?

I'm not sure which/whose questions your're referring to. I don't ever mind questions. I'm simply saying that we don't all trust/respect the same books, 'experts' etc. whether it's in politics, science, spirituality, or whatever.

[3DMonkey]

Hoagland, I mean.


I meant service- as in asking "I'm curious. What do you think?"

[Raman]

Yeah lets ask google or the government or the military industrial complex they here 'to help you'.

[3DMonkey]

Are you here to help me?

[Raman]

Are you here to help me?

Some are helping some are not. Anything in your mind?

[3DMonkey]

Blank lately.

[Monica]

Yeah lets ask google or the government or the military industrial complex they here 'to help you'.

Gosh, I feel really sheepish for even doing that google sky thing. There's this video of this guy - who is he anyway??? - who is very calmly saying, basically, it's the end of the world, and this same guy says to look at google sky and you'll find these blacked out spots.

I mean, is that obvious or what?

Can you say, DISinfo?

In all fairness to Richard Hoagland, however, he doesn't trust NASA and has even written a book about NASA corruption. Yes he does use NASA data - among other things - only to prove their corruption.

[Raman]

Yeah lets ask google or the government or the military industrial complex they here 'to help you'.

Gosh, I feel really sheepish for even doing that google sky thing. There's this video of this guy - who is he anyway??? - who is very calmly saying, basically, it's the end of the world, and this same guy says to look at google sky and you'll find these blacked out spots.

I mean, is that obvious or what?

Can you say, DISinfo?

In all fairness to Richard Hoagland, however, he doesn't trust NASA and has even written a book about NASA corruption. Yes he does use NASA data - among other things - only to prove their corruption.

Seems that the risks of blocking certain things are not as important as the benefits of doing so. How many people will even take a look like you did? And then?

I entered "Sirius A" and ait takes me to this star that has a yellow blob covering it. By the way as you go up and right form those coordinates what is that huge blue thing that looks like a logo? Then, what you mentioned about the blackouts...

Then also google earth blocking certain areas on the Poles with black painted (?) holes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCk3Mz7o9Ks

[Bring4th_Austin]

As far as the Google Sky thing goes, with the obvious blacked out sections of space, my friend showed those to me close to a year ago. They are odd, and maybe a bit fishy, but I feel like if they wanted to hide something from the public they would be much more subtle about it. Big black blocks in the sky are very obvious. I'm sure there's at least one person at Google and NASA that can use Photoshop to do a better job of covering something up. It would be different with Area 51 and other secret military bases on Google Earth, as they'll readily admit they don't want anyone to know what goes on there and blacking them out is understandable. But with something which they don't claim to be a secret, a big black box covering it up isn't an effective way to keep it a secret. And I think they'd be a bit smarter than that.

Just my opinion. I'll agree that there's definitely no obvious reason for the blacked out sections.

[Richard]

And then again..it could be just a small comet. One of the current 45 or so being watched by amateur astronomers on a daily basis.

There is nothing spectacular about this body over any other under observation right now. Beyond conspiracy theory gobbledegook.

http://www.aerith.net/comet/weekly/current.html

Richard

[loop]

it doesn't seem to be getting brighter yet:



source: http://members.westnet.com.au/mmatti/sc.htm

[Tenet Nosce]

Just saw this! Some great Elenin visuals inside:

http://awakeningasone.com/

[3DMonkey]

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2434

[loop]

Through the quest of searching of information on this topic, I finally came to a source, mentioning Elenin but with publications full of pure Light!

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/


I was pretty surprised that the author is a Bulgarian (same as me), though he is not living here for very long time. This is the first time I'm seeing high-quality internet publication originating from a Bulgarian. There are a lot of spiritually advanced Bulgarians here, but most of them cannot even come close to a computer or another electronic device (even incl cell phones ) - their energy fields are too intense and the gadgets just stop working when really close to them. The majority of those I know are healers (herbs and energy fields), there are also people who can read the Akash and there are also a lot sorcerers (doing both good & evil). So I really felt great when I saw advanced internet material of Light maintained by spiritually advanced Bulgarian.

If you wish to go over his writing, you will see how his interpretation of the harvest process and the history of past events does not overlap with the LOO material completely, though, it's full of light and possibly a legit view on the story. I would guess that the person is a higher density Wonderer and as such, has it's own distorsions developed, still his articles resonate deeply with me (at least on the first read of a few of them). I would definitely recommend the two topics:
http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/ascension-2012

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/econo...se-in-2011


@Mods, please advice if you think it's worth to start a separate Forum Thread to discuss this source. My feeling is yes, but i'm a Bring4th newbie and am seeking for your advice & guidance.

P.S. I don't really know if Elenin's mention inside is a worthwhile information. The material goes well beyond it.

[BrownEye]

http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/world-...lang=en-us

Maybe they don't have the same news as the rest saying the comet is gone?

[loop]

as per Sept 2nd, it doesn't look like it broke apart ...


Here are few interesting quotes from the Project Camelot's website:

European Space Agency reports Nibiru or the Brown Dwarf has flipped Saturn on it's axis 90%.

Magma moving in Southern California/ desert plumes.

have you heard of a massive CME on Sept 9th , which as I'm reading, made visible Auroras in unusual places in the US?

[loop]

And here they claim it's Elenin visible in daylight - today ... in blue



Source: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1...634343/pg1

I was looking to see it today, but did not try with a filter. It's now 11PM here, so maybe someone on the west side of the globe could double check ...

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and one more from the same uploader, taken minutes later.


The video is made in Tulsa Oklahoma

[loop]

just heard back from a friend in TX. He does professional photography and has some equipment. he says there's nothing visible from his standpoint and I trust that he chose a proper set of filters to play with.

for the record, in a comment on Youtube, the lady says she did the video with iphone4.

will get some sleep and will look for it in the morning tomorrow



P.S. Please excuse my excitement :-P

[BrownEye]

My buddy in Kansas was able to see the twin suns a while back, while in NE I could not see anything. I noticed that people in other areas had recorded the twin suns or the twin moons. Seems that if you are in the right place at the right time you can see some interesting things.

[loop]

I can't see anything here today.

The object on the video is similar to both where Elenin is expected to be, but also to where Venus is, from our perspective as of yesterday. Though, Venus is on the oposite side of the Sun and i cannot think of a reason for why it appeared blue.

yesterday was the perihelion of Elenin so I could guess that there could have been some remaining charge left, which just "lighten up" for a while and got exhausted quickly. Just a speculation, but a possibility nonetheless ...

[loop]

have you seen this? that's the official presidential speech for 911. he steps up, reads it and steps down. Very meaningful ...

[BrownEye]

It appears to be a ghost. There is something there creating possibly a magnetic field, but you can see through it. Is it simply not a physical manifestation?

[3DMonkey]

NOT ELENIN, but along the same lines...

http://spaceweather.com/images2011/13sep...er_768.jpg

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SUNDIVING COMET: A comet is diving into the sun today. Just discovered by comet hunters Michal Kusiak of Poland and Sergei Schmalz of Germany, the icy visitor from the outer solar system is expected to brighten to first magnitude before it disintegrates on Sept. 14th. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory is monitoring the comet's death plunge: finder chart, movie, latest images.

[BrownEye]

This is interesting. It greatly matches my own personal, and group findings. As I have mentioned before, what makes us think that what we see is what is there? 4D is said to have the capability to be invisible to us. What I found coming is 4D/5D. So if a 4D individual can stand directly in front of us without our seeing it, what of 4D and higher spheres? While many of us do not grasp the concept of a "council in the rings of saturn", why do we think that their native environment would be "rings" in their vibration and is viewable to our lower vibrations?

This concept should be easier to understand when you compare the person that sees a great spirit, to the person that sees the same spirit manifested as only an orb or spark, to the next person who sees nothing at all.

.....The smaller planetoid sphere that is approaching the Earth, Elenin, is indeed an inhabited space vessel. It is of the Galactic Federation forces and its oncoming is seen by those in power at this time as a hostile event, for they understand that the reinforcements being brought on this smaller body of Elenin is of sufficient number to shift the control and balance on the planet and to allow a First Contact event that has been long prophesied. There are many interesting events relating to this planetoid, this small hollowed out planet that has been converted into a space vehicle.

It is an event that should be celebrated, for with the arrival of the Galactic Federation forces ...it will be reinforced to a point where they can overcome the threats that those in power made to the Galactic Federation should they show themselves in First Contact.

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/2011/09...be-feared/

[3DMonkey]

It would be cool if they had information like this BEFORE astronomers discover it