3D to 4D: Sudden or Gradual? A great read...(David Wilcock interview)

[Bring4th_Austin]

However, I don't consider it as undistorted as the Ra sessions. I appreciate the Q'uo channelings, but I use more discernment when reading them. I am past the discernment phase with the Ra works and trust it completely.

How did you discern the transient information which we only know from Ra? What within the Ra material gave you faith in the work in its entirety?

[Raman]

I find faith to be important in 3d experience. Cannot be "invalidated". For both (+) and (-) paths.

3.9 Questioner: I am reminded of the statement—approximately—that if you had faith to move a mountain, the mountain would move. This seems to be approximately what you were saying. That if you are fully aware of the Law of One, you would be able to do these things. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory distortion of sound, faith, is perhaps one of the stumbling blocks between those of what we may call the infinite path and those of the finite proving/understanding.

You are precisely correct in your understanding of the congruency of faith and intelligent infinity; however, one is a spiritual term, the other more acceptable perhaps to the conceptual framework distortions of those who seek with measure and pen.

[Monica]

How did you discern the transient information which we only know from Ra? What within the Ra material gave you faith in the work in its entirety?

Even when providing transient info, Ra seems to have maintained the purity of the contact, to the point of notifying Don that the info was transient, with the exception of the session in which there was no "I am Ra" at the beginning. So that session is questionable.

The reason I trust the Ra material in its entirety is because I have never detected any 'coloring' from the channel, as with conscious channeling.

For example, I consider the Edgar Cayce readings to have great value. But much of Cayce's own biases and personality shone thru the readings. They were 'colored' by whatever color his own lens was, that the material was filtered thru.

I know and trust Carla to be as careful as she can be, to avoid such coloring during her own channeling. Thus, I trust the Q'uo channelings much more than any other. But they are still not on the same level as the Ra material, in my opinion. They still have a slight 'Carla' flavor; for example, using Christian allegories since she is a Christian, etc.

It's the same with virtually all channeled works. They tend to have a certain flavor or color, which comes from the channel. The only exception I have found is the Ra material. It is free of any coloration; ie. distortion. The Ra material has no flavor. It's colorless.

[unity100]

you can pick anything you can verify in your personal life. this may be the chakra system, this may be philosophy, this may be historical concepts about the lives of people examined.

a totally coherent, complete furball of information system touching the current reality we inhabit from any tangent will validate itself.

Isn't this also true of Q'uo? And a lot of other consciously channeled material? This in regards to the chakra system, philosophy, and so-forth. You say that these rather subjective things "validate the whole of information." Why do they validate the transient information, and only the transient information of the Ra material and not other material?

monica explained this quite well, so i dont think i need to respond to this. i agree with her logic in this matter.

What I am contending is the information which is apparently transient of spirituality; the ETs, the pyramids, the history, science, harvest, pole shift, etc. Why do we trust that Ra is correct about the Atlanteans only because their philosophical teachings seem to ring true to us? (just an example)

to answer specifically, what Ra says about atlantis quite explains and supports numerous other legends or channelings (like edgar cayce) and unexplained phenomenon like underground cities 7 levels deep in western anatolia.

I'll try to bring it back around...you contended that Q'uo was distorted and thus you couldn't believe for sure their statement that the pole shift was averted. With regards to everything I just said, why would Ra's prediction of a pole shift hold any more sway than Q'uo's assertion that pole shift was averted?

hatonn and latwii of the quo 'collective' is of 4th and 5th densities. 4,5 positive densities have abundance of hope, and positivity. it is natural that they hope for the best, wish for the best, believe the best.

ra is of late 6d. they are much more detached than the time continuum of these parts, and much more closer to infinite intelligence. also, they are balanced in attitude. they also have a much better position to observe probabilities.

and in addition, there is the coloring matter monica spoke about. it seemed to me that quo channelings tend to take a tone more in line with the popular mainstream positively oriented channelings, repeating and reiterating most of the common tenets.

this may be a proof of validity, but it also may be a proof of the coloration of contact by the channel, since quo is channeled not only by Carla, but many that participate in channelings.

Right, when I first started this side-discussion I tried to somewhat establish this. I find this particular discussion about the mechanics of harvest rather transient to philosophy/spirituality:

questionable.

if the gateway to infinite intelligence opens at the striking of the hour for a brief time, this has implications for spirituality.

it is, opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence. its no little matter.

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in addition, the more i think the more i get that harvest is not something that can happen for extended durations of time :

in a normal 3d cycle, cycle is full 75,000 years.

in a normal 3d environment, ideal lifespan of a 3d body is 900 years.

if, the harvest was something that waited, waited and happened after harvest, it would have to last for some 400-500 years after it starts at the end of cycle, for any entity that is born at the end of harvest to be able to get harvested.

this would make harvest duration something quite noticeable compared to 75,000 years.

[3DMonkey]

if the gateway to infinite intelligence opens at the striking of the hour for a brief time, this has implications for spirituality.

it is, opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence. its no little matter.

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in addition, the more i think the more i get that harvest is not something that can happen for extended durations of time :

in a normal 3d cycle, cycle is full 75,000 years.

in a normal 3d environment, ideal lifespan of a 3d body is 900 years.

if, the harvest was something that waited, waited and happened after harvest, it would have to last for some 400-500 years after it starts at the end of cycle, for any entity that is born at the end of harvest to be able to get harvested.

this would make harvest duration something quite noticeable compared to 75,000 years.

I see a difference of my perspective on this. Two points.

First, the notion that such things must be noticeable. More than half the topics of the LOO are things that are completely unnoticeable. Energy ray colors, chakras, time/space, spirit complex, archetypes represent unseen things, balancing, confederation of planets, council of saturn, higher self, positive/negative paths, building process of a pyramid, energy transfer, UFOs. I have never noticed any of these things, but they are still all part of our life. Therefore, from my perspective, Harvest is something that can occur completely unnoticed.

Second, like death will come to me without any preparation or control on my part, so the gateway to intelligent infinity will open. It is a "little matter" in my eyes. In other words, someone says to me, 'you will die', and I shrug my shoulders with a 'yep, I will'. Same thing with the gateway, 'yep, it will.'

[βαθμιαίος]

I was thinking about the metaphor of harvest and realized that we use it to refer to two different types of actions. In a garden, when we harvest tomatoes we gather them over a period of time as they gradually ripen. However, when farmers harvest a field of grain, they take the whole field at the same time.

In terms of the opening to intelligent infinity, I tend to think it will be noticeable. Ra said the experience of reaching intelligent infinity is usually perceived as one of unspeakable profundity.

[unity100]

I was thinking about the metaphor of harvest and realized that we use it to refer to two different types of actions. In a garden, when we harvest tomatoes we gather them over a period of time as they gradually ripen. However, when farmers harvest a field of grain, they take the whole field at the same time.

rather uncanny analogy.

[Bring4th_Austin]

hatonn and latwii of the quo 'collective' is of 4th and 5th densities. 4,5 positive densities have abundance of hope, and positivity. it is natural that they hope for the best, wish for the best, believe the best.

ra is of late 6d. they are much more detached than the time continuum of these parts, and much more closer to infinite intelligence. also, they are balanced in attitude. they also have a much better position to observe probabilities.

I had not considered this, thank you.

this may be a proof of validity, but it also may be a proof of the coloration of contact by the channel, since quo is channeled not only by Carla, but many that participate in channelings.

This is a pretty valid point, and it might be slightly hypocritical of me to say that I only really put stock into Carla's own channeling of Q'uo, and sometimes Jim's. The quality in the material is very noticeable. No offense to any who read this that might also be part of the channeling circles. I've done much research on Carla and read a lot of her work, and find her to be an incredibly balanced and open individual.

I feel the most coloration of the Q'uo channelings through Carla comes through her Christian beliefs. It seems natural that Q'uo would use Christian examples, because they are abundant in Carla's mind and easy to bring forward, and for the most part they require no belief in Christian teachings. But there are things like the resurrection of Jesus; Q'uo channelings talk about it, yet I don't put faith in it.

Right, when I first started this side-discussion I tried to somewhat establish this. I find this particular discussion about the mechanics of harvest rather transient to philosophy/spirituality:

questionable.

if the gateway to infinite intelligence opens at the striking of the hour for a brief time, this has implications for spirituality.

it is, opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence. its no little matter.

I have seen you talk a lot about the opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence as harvest, and I assume it is from a Ra passage. What are you referring to?

I understand something like that would be of no little matter, but it is a prophecy and has little philosophical or spiritual value which we can apply to our lives, it is something we can wait to happen and possibly prepare for, like any other prophecy.

in addition, the more i think the more i get that harvest is not something that can happen for extended durations of time :

in a normal 3d cycle, cycle is full 75,000 years.

in a normal 3d environment, ideal lifespan of a 3d body is 900 years.

if, the harvest was something that waited, waited and happened after harvest, it would have to last for some 400-500 years after it starts at the end of cycle, for any entity that is born at the end of harvest to be able to get harvested.

this would make harvest duration something quite noticeable compared to 75,000 years.

A gradual transition to 4th density doesn't require a gradual harvest, Since dual-activated bodies are 4th density beings, harvest could be rather instant. Harvest could be done in a generation.

Unity, are you now saying that you believe harvest could indicate some world-wide catastrophe? Since death is required for harvest, and if it were an instant thing, what would be the mechanic? What about the dual-activated individuals, would they die too?

[Monica]

quo is channeled not only by Carla, but many that participate in channelings.

Yes, that is another point I forgot to mention. I understand that it's important for others to learn how to channel properly, to carry on Carla's work, but it is a point to take into consideration. Which, to me, just says that the channeled works should be evaluated based on discernment, not on who channels it. Ie., I don't just automatically take all Q'uo channelings as absolute truth, just because Carla channeled it. It may or may not have been channeled by Carla, and even if it was, I still think it's important to apply our own discernment. And in fact, Q'uo asks us to do that.

[3DMonkey]

Can i put my two cents in?

Channeled contact is channeled contact. If I can believe one, I can believe all. It's just what I choose to believe that matters. You can paint all the standards you want.

Show me the magic.

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I don't give any more credit to Einstein than I do the homeless beggar with no legs sweating in the Texas heat for some handouts. There is no reason to.

[Oceania]

i don't believe any channeled material fully. not even Ra.

[βαθμιαίος]

How did you discern the transient information which we only know from Ra? What within the Ra material gave you faith in the work in its entirety?

Even when providing transient info, Ra seems to have maintained the purity of the contact, to the point of notifying Don that the info was transient, with the exception of the session in which there was no "I am Ra" at the beginning. So that session is questionable.

The reason I trust the Ra material in its entirety is because I have never detected any 'coloring' from the channel, as with conscious channeling.

For example, I consider the Edgar Cayce readings to have great value. But much of Cayce's own biases and personality shone thru the readings. They were 'colored' by whatever color his own lens was, that the material was filtered thru.

I know and trust Carla to be as careful as she can be, to avoid such coloring during her own channeling. Thus, I trust the Q'uo channelings much more than any other. But they are still not on the same level as the Ra material, in my opinion. They still have a slight 'Carla' flavor; for example, using Christian allegories since she is a Christian, etc.

It's the same with virtually all channeled works. They tend to have a certain flavor or color, which comes from the channel. The only exception I have found is the Ra material. It is free of any coloration; ie. distortion. The Ra material has no flavor. It's colorless.

I completely agree with this. Only quibble is that there wasn't any one session where Ra didn't use "I am Ra"; instead there are answers in which Ra omitted "I am Ra" here and there throughout a number of the sessions.

[unity100]

I have seen you talk a lot about the opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence as harvest, and I assume it is from a Ra passage. What are you referring to?

'opening the gateway to intelligent infinity' and therefore 'harvesting itself' is a recurring theme that repeats during talk of any negative entities harvested.

in a few other parts, 'opening the gateway to intelligent infinity is the ticket to next octave of experience' is told.

in regard to harvest, 'gateway to intelligent infinity from infinite energy opens regardless of the circumstance upon striking of the hour' is told.

I understand something like that would be of no little matter, but it is a prophecy and has little philosophical or spiritual value which we can apply to our lives, it is something we can wait to happen and possibly prepare for, like any other prophecy.

it seems like it is the mechanic for harvest.

in addition, the more i think the more i get that harvest is not something that can happen for extended durations of time :

in a normal 3d cycle, cycle is full 75,000 years.

in a normal 3d environment, ideal lifespan of a 3d body is 900 years.

if, the harvest was something that waited, waited and happened after harvest, it would have to last for some 400-500 years after it starts at the end of cycle, for any entity that is born at the end of harvest to be able to get harvested.

this would make harvest duration something quite noticeable compared to 75,000 years.

A gradual transition to 4th density doesn't require a gradual harvest, Since dual-activated bodies are 4th density beings, harvest could be rather instant. Harvest could be done in a generation.

thats what you quoted actually explains :

it doesnt have any relevance to production of 4d bodies or transitions or whatnot. an ideal 3d incarnation is 900 years. imagine that at the start of the harvest, there are entities that are up to any age in that spectrum. thinking that how entities generally come for harvest to such situations, there will be more entities young than old even.

so you will have a situation in which at the start of harvest there are a lot of entities who have yet hundreds of years to live.

the harvest would have to wait for all entities to die out, so that all entities could get harvested. it would last anywhere up to 900 years.

and, if harvests had taken that long, it would be something that would be discussed in Ra material. 400-600 years of harvest is not something you can miss when compared to 75,000 years of 3d cycle.

if you say the harvest lasts 500 years (totally missing any entity that is younger), and there are 3 harvest cycles, that would mean a total of 1500 years that passes in a 'harvest state' in 75,000 years.

that is pretty much a long time. if you say that harvest is 1000 years, it even goes funnier.

Unity, are you now saying that you believe harvest could indicate some world-wide catastrophe? Since death is required for harvest, and if it were an instant thing, what would be the mechanic? What about the dual-activated individuals, would they die too?

gateway to intelligent infinity opens at the striking of the hour, full 4d manifests, all entities that are lower than 4d vibration are harvested.

this is a plausible mechanic. it doesnt have to include any catastrophe.

[3DMonkey]

Harvest and Green Sphere activation are not the same thing. The idea that Green Ray activation disallows 3D incarnations is clear enough. The idea that harvest is green Ray activation and clearing out 3D entities must be immediate because of this is not in the LOO material.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I have seen you talk a lot about the opening of the gateway to infinite intelligence as harvest, and I assume it is from a Ra passage. What are you referring to?

'opening the gateway to intelligent infinity' and therefore 'harvesting itself' is a recurring theme that repeats during talk of any negative entities harvested.

in a few other parts, 'opening the gateway to intelligent infinity is the ticket to next octave of experience' is told.

in regard to harvest, 'gateway to intelligent infinity from infinite energy opens regardless of the circumstance upon striking of the hour' is told.

Where is this told? I assumed the striking of the clock was the arrival of 4D vibrations and disappearance of 3D vibrations. The opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity was something I thought we did ourselves, not something that was done to us.

I understand something like that would be of no little matter, but it is a prophecy and has little philosophical or spiritual value which we can apply to our lives, it is something we can wait to happen and possibly prepare for, like any other prophecy.

it seems like it is the mechanic for harvest.

Right, harvest being a metaphysical mechanic, separate from every-day spirituality and philosophy. The only way knowledge of harvest will change the way we live our lives is in preparation for it.

it doesnt have any relevance to production of 4d bodies or transitions or whatnot. an ideal 3d incarnation is 900 years. imagine that at the start of the harvest, there are entities that are up to any age in that spectrum. thinking that how entities generally come for harvest to such situations, there will be more entities young than old even.

so you will have a situation in which at the start of harvest there are a lot of entities who have yet hundreds of years to live.

the harvest would have to wait for all entities to die out, so that all entities could get harvested. it would last anywhere up to 900 years.

and, if harvests had taken that long, it would be something that would be discussed in Ra material. 400-600 years of harvest is not something you can miss when compared to 75,000 years of 3d cycle.

It is an assumption to say it would be discussed in the Ra material, because Ra did not discuss anything that wasn't directly asked of them.

if you say the harvest lasts 500 years (totally missing any entity that is younger), and there are 3 harvest cycles, that would mean a total of 1500 years that passes in a 'harvest state' in 75,000 years.

that is pretty much a long time. if you say that harvest is 1000 years, it even goes funnier.

I'm still not really seeing a problem with that...the harvesters can wait around 1000 years easily, I'm sure.

gateway to intelligent infinity opens at the striking of the hour, full 4d manifests, all entities that are lower than 4d vibration are harvested.

this is a plausible mechanic. it doesnt have to include any catastrophe.

But physical death as we understand it is required for harvest. Instead of a catastrophe, are you suggesting that non dual bodies just drop dead at a certain moment?

[3DMonkey]

if you say the harvest lasts 500 years (totally missing any entity that is younger), and there are 3 harvest cycles, that would mean a total of 1500 years that passes in a 'harvest state' in 75,000 years.

This is completely possible. There is nothing provided to indicate otherwise.

To think 'well, Ra wouldve said something if that were the case' is silly.

[Bring4th_Austin]

if you say the harvest lasts 500 years (totally missing any entity that is younger), and there are 3 harvest cycles, that would mean a total of 1500 years that passes in a 'harvest state' in 75,000 years.

This is completely possible. There is nothing provided to indicate otherwise.

To think 'well, Ra wouldve said something if that were the case' is silly.

Exactly, there is a whole lot Ra didn't say. We can't assume they would have said something, because if Don didn't as, Ra didn't say.

[3DMonkey]

Maybe they meant "I am raw" as in "I lack all flavor"

[unity100]

in regard to harvest, 'gateway to intelligent infinity from infinite energy opens regardless of the circumstance upon striking of the hour' is told.

Where is this told? I assumed the striking of the clock was the arrival of 4D vibrations and disappearance of 3D vibrations. The opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity was something I thought we did ourselves, not something that was done to us.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=9&ss=1#3

i referenced this multiple times. we even discussed this specifically.

The only way knowledge of harvest will change the way we live our lives is in preparation for it.

had it been as such, an entire confederation wouldnt be trying to prepare this planet for harvest.

It is an assumption to say it would be discussed in the Ra material, because Ra did not discuss anything that wasn't directly asked of them.

I'm still not really seeing a problem with that...the harvesters can wait around 1000 years easily, I'm sure.

don specifically asked whether the harvest would happen at year 2011, or it was going to be spread over time. answer was, 2011 was the probable nexus for happening of harvest.

waiting or not waiting is not something that is at the whim of the harvesters, since the mechanism works like a clock.

But physical death as we understand it is required for harvest. Instead of a catastrophe, are you suggesting that non dual bodies just drop dead at a certain moment?

death seems to be necessary for harvest indeed. it is possible that opening the gateway to infinite intelligence while incarnate, marks someone for harvest - maybe the 2nd cycle harvestees are in this situation.

and as for death, it may be possible that all such bodies drop dead at the striking of the hour.

Exactly, there is a whole lot Ra didn't say. We can't assume they would have said something, because if Don didn't as, Ra didn't say.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

[3DMonkey]

Are you saying harvest could be receiving a mark?

[Bring4th_Austin]

in regard to harvest, 'gateway to intelligent infinity from infinite energy opens regardless of the circumstance upon striking of the hour' is told.

Where is this told? I assumed the striking of the clock was the arrival of 4D vibrations and disappearance of 3D vibrations. The opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity was something I thought we did ourselves, not something that was done to us.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=9&ss=1#3

i referenced this multiple times. we even discussed this specifically.

Thank you.

It does not make sense to me that non-harvestable entities somehow avoided this "clock strike" of intelligent infinity during the first two cycles. I understand that this time entities are harvested regardless of progress, but entities incarnate in space/time obviously have some chance of avoiding this clock strike while incarnate.

Is it not possible that this clock strike only effects time/space, and entities are not aware of it until their arrival into time/space after they depart space/time? Otherwise, how did it discern these entities during the first two cycles? The clock struck, the gateway to intelligent infinity opened...but only for polarized individuals?

The only way knowledge of harvest will change the way we live our lives is in preparation for it.

had it been as such, an entire confederation wouldnt be trying to prepare this planet for harvest.

This still doesn't change the fact that the information is prophetic regarding metaphysical mechanics with no application in our daily lives. How do you apply information regarding harvest in your philosophical and spiritual views of life, besides preparing yourself for the supposed date? What does it teach us about spirituality and philosophy?




What do you make of this specific passage?

63.28 Questioner: Then are these entities of whom we have spoken, the third-density harvestable who have been transferred, the ones who then will, by bisexual reproduction, create the fourth-density complexes that are necessary?
Ra: I am Ra. The influxes of true color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love. The mind/body/spirit complexes inhabiting these physical vehicles will be, and to some extent, are, those of whom you spoke and, as harvest is completed, the harvested entities of this planetary influence.

Ra says "as harvest is completed," not "when harvest happens." For something to be completed implies there was a process.

[3DMonkey]

These are great, new points, abridgetoofar.

[Bring4th_Austin]

10.9 Questioner: When graduation occurs at the end of a cycle, and entities are moved from one planet to another, by what means do they go to a new planet?
Ra: I am Ra. In the scheme of the Creator, the first step of the mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion in the proper place of love/light. This is done to ensure proper healing of the complex and eventual attunement with the totality/beingness complex. This takes a very variable length of your time/space. After this is accomplished the experience of the cycle is dissolved and filtered until only the distillation of distortions in its pure form remains.At this time, the harvested mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness evaluates the density needs of its beingness and chooses the more appropriate new environment for either a repetition of the cycle or a moving forward into the next cycle. This is the manner of the harvesting, guarded and watched over by many.

"This take a variable length of your time/space." Even if all are harvested at the same exact moment, the process will still take varying amounts of time, possibly hundreds or thousands of years.

Could the gateway to intelligent infinity simply allow us to evaluate our density needs in time/space? Are we so sure it has an effect in space/time?

13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.

Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with your present societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest.

Ra uses the clock analogy for something we know is gradual. Yes, it is regularized as the striking of a clock, but that doesn't mean it is instant. It only means that it for sure will happen at a certain time, not a certain instant.

[βαθμιαίος]

"the first step of the mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion in the proper place of love/light"

Doesn't that happen after death?

[3DMonkey]

Yes. And harvest happens after death.

Austin is making some great points about how time/space is the central location of harvest.

[βαθμιαίος]

Isn't the question still what happens when the gateway opens? 3D bodies could die en masse and then it could take a variable length of time for them each to decide what to do next, as per the above quotes from Ra.

However, the point about the non-harvestable entities 25,000 years ago is intriguing. The issue there, though, is the one Austin referred to: "all are harvested" this time.

[3DMonkey]

Too much, ooooh what's the word..., awe* surrounds the thought of a gateway opening. It's significant but not grand. Take a step back to look at how you define the gateway to yourself. .... I mean, an entity entering a baby's physical body is an opening of sorts.

Do you imagine a huge vortex in the sky, hair blowing, yadda yadda?

[βαθμιαίος]

I really don't know. I never thought about it much until this thread.

The main thing I can find in the Ra material about it is the quote I mentioned earlier -- unspeakable profundity.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I think the question now is whether entities are forced into time/space (through death) or whether they enter time/space through natural causes.

Harvest can be the striking of a clock, the gateway to intelligent infinity opening in time/space and being available for all upon entering time/space, it is the method of entry into time/space which is curious.

Does intelligent infinity perform what Ra has called an STS action and murder everyone?

[βαθμιαίος]

This is similar to something I've wondered about. Ra says that the creation periodically coalesces back into itself. When that happens, what happens to those who are not done evolving through the densities?