Hello all,
I have been talking with my partner off and on about children recently. She is not a follower of the LOO. She does, however, radiate an amazing light of compassion and I am sure, with or without knowledge of it, she will be by my side for the transition.
So, she wants children while I am hesitant about it. There is little to no information about children and ascension. The children incarnating today with understandings of the 4D are not truly "ascending" as they already inhabit a 4D body.
As far as I understand some of the children who are incarnating now are not wanderers in the sense of a mission/work anymore. That phase is over with, now we are just riding it out and those incarnating currently are here for the harvest experience and Terra/Gaia will be their 4D home. They are simply the first through the door.
Now I don't think all children being born now are of this persuasion. I know that there is a seniority list as to who incarnates closer and closer to harvest day, and souls better able to use the energies as springboard into 4D have a better place in line.... but does that mean that all new entries are ready for harvest?
Certainly if the rate of animals moving forward is increasing then this cannot be true. As those souls will be entry level 3D not exit level as they are incarnating. There is a huge amount of material pertaining to harvest rights and methodology but in the end all remains cloaked in mystery.
LoO:
Questioner: Would the purpose in transitioning to Earth prior to the
complete changeover then be for the experience to be gained here before the
harvesting process?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. These entities are not Wanderers in the sense
that this planetary sphere is their fourth-density home planet. However, the
experience of this service is earned only by those harvested third-density
entities which have demonstrated a great deal of orientation towards serviceto-
others. It is a privilege to be allowed this early an incarnation as there is
much experiential catalyst in service to other-selves at this harvesting.
Questioner: There are many children now who have demonstrated the
ability to bend metal mentally which is a fourth-density phenomenon.
Would most of these children, then, be the type of entity of which we
speak?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Is the reason that they can do this and the fifth-density
Wanderers who are here cannot do it the fact that they have the fourthdensity
body in activation?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Wanderers are third-density activated in
mind/body/spirit and are subject to the forgetting which can only be
penetrated with disciplined meditation and working.
Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities
of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are
coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization
through their teachings. They are not infringing upon the first distortion
because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect
any of the polarization until the transition is well advanced. However, the
Wanderers who have come here are older and have a greater ability to affect
the polarization. They must do their affecting as a function of their ability
to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion.
Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.
In the final question it states "I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization through their teachings."
Ra states that this information is correct.... yet this was written nearly 30 years ago..... which means the children being born.. well.. when I was born cannot affect the polarization? Because they are too close to the end of the cycle?
This is obviously not correct as here I am, sharing and being of service. Does that mean my actions do not have the capability to polarize another entity? To help polarize humanity positively?
Unless it means they will not be old enough to be in positions of power by that time meaning the wanderers are people in their 40's onwards which also doesn't feel right to me...
I could see how that statement would be correct say... 6 years from harvest day but how it is correct nearly 30 years from that date I do not know.
LoO:
Questioner: Can you explain what you mean by a seniority by vibration?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this session of working.
The seniority by vibration is the preferential treatment, shall we say, which
follows the ways of the Law of One which encourages harvestable
individuals, each individual becoming aware of the time of harvest and the
need on a self-level to bend mind/body/spirit towards the learn/teaching of
these lessons, by giving them priority in order that an entity may have the
best possible chance, shall we say, in succeeding in this attempt.
Here is very direct info about the seniority of vibration being a major sway in the incarnative process. So entities coming from elsewhere get to incarnate based on seniority, whereas entities from here are still chugging along as usual, even more so now that pets are such a major part of first world cultures.
That means the odds of your child being harvestable are up in the air? If a child is not harvestable then it would be filtered and placed somewhere else to continue 3D experience with the harvest being a powerful catalyst in the continuation of its seeking.
If one is not willing to leave their child in the transition does that mean they are choosing to stay? Being unattached to the 3D world and everything in it is integral in the forward movement. One must leave behind that which is no longer of the same vibration if one is to move forward. Like the separation of oil and water, the energies will no longer be cohesive.
I would imagine a strong earthly attachment would lead one to choose to remain, as in the end it is totally up to the individual soul whether it moves forward or not. One must become free of any binding energies in order to progress.....
Perhaps I will wait a few years before I seriously consider having kids... like 10. We will see what has happened at that point. As releasing them would be a difficult choice for me to make and I don't need to get caught in the wheel. I am pretty sure you can still "procreate" in 4D in one way or another, as there are multiple lifecycles in 4D existance.
Just some thoughts, if anyone has anything to add please feel free to do so
I have been talking with my partner off and on about children recently. She is not a follower of the LOO. She does, however, radiate an amazing light of compassion and I am sure, with or without knowledge of it, she will be by my side for the transition.
So, she wants children while I am hesitant about it. There is little to no information about children and ascension. The children incarnating today with understandings of the 4D are not truly "ascending" as they already inhabit a 4D body.
As far as I understand some of the children who are incarnating now are not wanderers in the sense of a mission/work anymore. That phase is over with, now we are just riding it out and those incarnating currently are here for the harvest experience and Terra/Gaia will be their 4D home. They are simply the first through the door.
Now I don't think all children being born now are of this persuasion. I know that there is a seniority list as to who incarnates closer and closer to harvest day, and souls better able to use the energies as springboard into 4D have a better place in line.... but does that mean that all new entries are ready for harvest?
Certainly if the rate of animals moving forward is increasing then this cannot be true. As those souls will be entry level 3D not exit level as they are incarnating. There is a huge amount of material pertaining to harvest rights and methodology but in the end all remains cloaked in mystery.
LoO:
Questioner: Would the purpose in transitioning to Earth prior to the
complete changeover then be for the experience to be gained here before the
harvesting process?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. These entities are not Wanderers in the sense
that this planetary sphere is their fourth-density home planet. However, the
experience of this service is earned only by those harvested third-density
entities which have demonstrated a great deal of orientation towards serviceto-
others. It is a privilege to be allowed this early an incarnation as there is
much experiential catalyst in service to other-selves at this harvesting.
Questioner: There are many children now who have demonstrated the
ability to bend metal mentally which is a fourth-density phenomenon.
Would most of these children, then, be the type of entity of which we
speak?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Is the reason that they can do this and the fifth-density
Wanderers who are here cannot do it the fact that they have the fourthdensity
body in activation?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Wanderers are third-density activated in
mind/body/spirit and are subject to the forgetting which can only be
penetrated with disciplined meditation and working.
Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities
of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are
coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization
through their teachings. They are not infringing upon the first distortion
because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect
any of the polarization until the transition is well advanced. However, the
Wanderers who have come here are older and have a greater ability to affect
the polarization. They must do their affecting as a function of their ability
to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion.
Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.
In the final question it states "I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization through their teachings."
Ra states that this information is correct.... yet this was written nearly 30 years ago..... which means the children being born.. well.. when I was born cannot affect the polarization? Because they are too close to the end of the cycle?
This is obviously not correct as here I am, sharing and being of service. Does that mean my actions do not have the capability to polarize another entity? To help polarize humanity positively?
Unless it means they will not be old enough to be in positions of power by that time meaning the wanderers are people in their 40's onwards which also doesn't feel right to me...
I could see how that statement would be correct say... 6 years from harvest day but how it is correct nearly 30 years from that date I do not know.
LoO:
Questioner: Can you explain what you mean by a seniority by vibration?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this session of working.
The seniority by vibration is the preferential treatment, shall we say, which
follows the ways of the Law of One which encourages harvestable
individuals, each individual becoming aware of the time of harvest and the
need on a self-level to bend mind/body/spirit towards the learn/teaching of
these lessons, by giving them priority in order that an entity may have the
best possible chance, shall we say, in succeeding in this attempt.
Here is very direct info about the seniority of vibration being a major sway in the incarnative process. So entities coming from elsewhere get to incarnate based on seniority, whereas entities from here are still chugging along as usual, even more so now that pets are such a major part of first world cultures.
That means the odds of your child being harvestable are up in the air? If a child is not harvestable then it would be filtered and placed somewhere else to continue 3D experience with the harvest being a powerful catalyst in the continuation of its seeking.
If one is not willing to leave their child in the transition does that mean they are choosing to stay? Being unattached to the 3D world and everything in it is integral in the forward movement. One must leave behind that which is no longer of the same vibration if one is to move forward. Like the separation of oil and water, the energies will no longer be cohesive.
I would imagine a strong earthly attachment would lead one to choose to remain, as in the end it is totally up to the individual soul whether it moves forward or not. One must become free of any binding energies in order to progress.....
Perhaps I will wait a few years before I seriously consider having kids... like 10. We will see what has happened at that point. As releasing them would be a difficult choice for me to make and I don't need to get caught in the wheel. I am pretty sure you can still "procreate" in 4D in one way or another, as there are multiple lifecycles in 4D existance.
Just some thoughts, if anyone has anything to add please feel free to do so