Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

[AnthroHeart]

I found myself questioning whether Osama would be harvested negative, but I caught myself by saying "clear mind". Everytime my mind wants to bring up something that is not really for me, I always say "clear mind".

by 18 nights, do you mean actual 18 nights, or are we talking about a larger timeframe?

[kia]

by 18 nights, do you mean actual 18 nights, or are we talking about a larger timeframe?

Mayan Calender PDF above

[unity100]

Hahaha.. i had to chuckle because this is exactly the way i see it... it may be misanthropic to 'look forward' to disorienting chaos and such but i must admit that's the emotion.

Don't judge me guys....

I wonder what this says about my planetary lineage... Just to add, and a special tip of the hat to you 3dm, i don't feel as though i'm a wanderer.

its not something related to planetary lineages or anything.

for something that is too stubborn and stale in an orange ray fashion to change, when the time comes, the change must happen either through chaotic destruction/disarraying so that a new arrangement/state can come to being because it is not prevented by the old state now, or, a higher power must act consciously and delicately on the earlier state to slowly push it towards change.

in the second case it may be so that that kind of force may not be enough to effect a smooth change, because the arrival of the need for change may be too early than can be arranged for.

im for fast, speedy, lightning change too - the stragglers here straggled enough, and the newly coming do not have to suffer agony because of the stragglers' stubbornness. stragglers can just go to another planet, and get their lessons again.

[Confused]

Just looked and thought about the "coincidence" of announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden just about when the next 18 nights period called Reaction starts

I have a feeling there is something very momentous impending on the immediate horizon, before the October of this year runs out.

There is some mass national/social karma being played out with much virulence, in my opinion.

[3DMonkey]

some of us like to think what we want is the adventure of unprepared for, life altering chaos

Hahaha.. i had to chuckle because this is exactly the way i see it... it may be misanthropic to 'look forward' to disorienting chaos and such but i must admit that's the emotion.

Don't judge me guys....

Do you agree 3dmonkey?

I wonder what this says about my planetary lineage... Just to add, and a special tip of the hat to you 3dm, i don't feel as though i'm a wanderer.

oh yeah, I was describing myself in that post. I was adding to zen's assessment (which I agree with), but he left that one out.

Misanthropic or insane? Naw, just good old fashioned "get on with the show!"

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Just looked and thought about the "coincidence" of announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden just about when the next 18 nights period called Reaction starts

I have a feeling there is something very momentous impending on the immediate horizon, before the October of this year runs out.

There is some mass national/social karma being played out with much virulence, in my opinion.

You think?

I gotta say, I totally ignored this news. OMG! Media poop. I actually watched the news present a video game style animated reenactment. This morning! COME ON America! Then I listened to something that sounded like a sports reporter who acts like they know what goes on inside a major league ball club, spitting out generic labels as though he was describing an all star running back. Vomit! OMG, I don't trust anything I see on the news.

I still see some truth to what you are saying, Confused. I'm just looking through this smoke screen.

[zenmaster]

Would be convenient to have something definitive and obvious actually happen. Perhaps then there will be less hyper-intuitive prognostications and feelings of imminence. If you've been following Calleman over the years, you've probably noticed he's been leading the charge in that regard - attempting to shoehorn important current events into his system. It's a lot like seeing animals in cloud formations.

[Confused]

Would be convenient to have something definitive and obvious actually happen...

I agree there is a good point in what you say as I personally attest that I have faced those feelings of vague imminence inside of my self.

And of course, it sort of makes me feel like a prophet, which may be pushes the "spiritual" adrenaline.

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I still see some truth to what you are saying, Confused. I'm just looking through this smoke screen.

Let us not worry too much right now with doom and gloom. It will spoil the fun at the Treehuggers

Moreover, doom and gloom is only in the mind, I guess. For the spirit, it is eternal transformation/transmutation/alchemy, I suppose

[zenmaster]

Would be convenient to have something definitive and obvious actually happen...

I agree there is a good point in what you say as I personally attest that I have faced those feelings of vague imminence inside of my self.

And of course, it sort of makes me feel like a prophet, which may be pushes the "spiritual" adrenaline.

It's something we all feel in different ways. Presumably, what pushes us to write about it is the energy that it tends to induce. That is, the unconscious mind gets energized. One useful thing to do is to use the intuitive faculty to make some of it conscious - otherwise it will continue to charge whatever personal structures it bumps up against and we will inevitably wind up projecting it out onto others. But if you are successful in that attempt, be warned that more energy will be attracted to you (as you have made a conduit of opportunity) and 'weird' stuff may happen.

[Confused]

But if you are successful in that attempt, be warned that more energy will be attracted to you (as you have made a conduit of opportunity) and 'weird' stuff may happen.

Z, the entire sentence is very cryptic to me in a good sense, especially 'conduit of opportunity'. Can you expand in more detail the interesting references you made?

[zenmaster]

But if you are successful in that attempt, be warned that more energy will be attracted to you (as you have made a conduit of opportunity) and 'weird' stuff may happen.

Z, the entire sentence is very cryptic to me in a good sense, especially 'conduit of opportunity'. Can you expand in more detail the interesting references you made?

Sure, you can look at it this way: the energy 'wants' to find expression, but it's stifled due to lack of opportunity (buried in the unconscious). Finding a way to make that aspect of self conscious creates that opportunity (aka acceptance or love or logos). But it's also an energy shared in the 'other-self', the collective. Through working, asking 'questions', it's as if you've 'epitomized' something that was heretofore a mere apprehension (currently to most it's not even that, it's just vague energy) - something on the cusp of consciousness. It's now available. But, it's not just available for you, it's somehow easier for all seeking in that direction. An analogy is the collective as an amoeba, and you, as an individual part is like a pseudopod reaching out for a morsel of food (consciousness). After integrating the info, it's available for conscious use, rather than serving to make you feel out of sorts, or the carrier of 'something big', 'something important', 'imminent', etc.

Also, most people here have obviously been at this point before.

[Confused]

An analogy is the collective as an amoeba, and you, as an individual part is like a pseudopod reaching out for a morsel of food (consciousness). After integrating the info, it's available for conscious use, rather than serving to make you feel out of sorts, or the carrier of 'something big', 'something important', 'imminent', etc.

I think that is a brilliant exposition of the ONE experiencing itself through infinite expressions of itself. In short, Zen, you have expounded the LOO very briefly, but trenchantly. Thanks for that, and for helping me understand that the Law is indeed one, in the sense that none of us are elite in the system of infinite creation.

Moreover, it also helps me understand why creation expands and coalesces with a center (ONE) as reference, like Ra put it. Thanks. The pseudopod has to return back to the amoebic center after doing its work, isn't it?

[zenmaster]

The pseudopod has to return back to the amoebic center after doing its work, isn't it?

But where is the center? I think the reaching out/seeking or conscious working with catalyst, esp on the larger social scale (racial mind, values, beliefs, etc), has some parallel's with Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey - which is the greater (3D) life cycle (described in mythos):
http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/s-mc/j...mmary.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AG4rlGkCRU

edit: had to hide the links as this site tries to be 'clever' and automatically converts s m c to social memory complex.

[Confused]

But where is the center?

I thought long and hard on that one, zenmaster. I have a feeling you have a strong confirmation about that, but are asking me the question to test whether I too resonate at that level. Only my assumption though. And I deeply appreciate your mode of teaching/learning, in terms of using questions to allow the querier to discover the answer for themselves.

Let me see whether I can address it. The honest answer I can come up with is that the center is everywhere, if the aspirant has the eyes to see. Just could not think of anything else.

Thank you for the links. They are brilliant.

[Edinburgh]

Hahaha.. i had to chuckle because this is exactly the way i see it... it may be misanthropic to 'look forward' to disorienting chaos and such but i must admit that's the emotion.

for something that is too stubborn and stale in an orange ray fashion to change, when the time comes, the change must happen either through chaotic destruction/disarraying so that a new arrangement/state can come to being because it is not prevented by the old state now, or, a higher power must act consciously and delicately on the earlier state to slowly push it towards change.

in the second case it may be so that that kind of force may not be enough to effect a smooth change, because the arrival of the need for change may be too early than can be arranged for.

It's a good point unity; orange ray stubborness should be understood as such. There's nothing wrong with it. "There are no mistakes". The principle of free will is the first law.

My fear is that the 'disorienting chaos' will bring much STS behaviour.

When I was young(er) I felt I could take on the world. No challenge was beyond me. My orange ray was intense. My green ray muffled. I changed as those close to me died, my eyes were opened. I was humbled. I found Law of One. I was reborn.

I wish for those "stragglers" to become open to love and a more spiritual life. I send them my love.

Those who seek will find.

Would be convenient to have something definitive and obvious actually happen. Perhaps then there will be less hyper-intuitive prognostications and feelings of imminence. If you've been following Calleman over the years, you've probably noticed he's been leading the charge in that regard - attempting to shoehorn important current events into his system. It's a lot like seeing animals in cloud formations.

It's a good point. Calleman has been leading the charge. He does sometimes seem to shoehorn. (He has become defensive over years of attack.)

Does that mean what the Mayans state, what they learned from the Ra group to be all incorrect? I'm not sure. What the Mayans say converges with what Q'uo and Ra state. Isn't that why we all converge here now?

[unity100]

But if you are successful in that attempt, be warned that more energy will be attracted to you (as you have made a conduit of opportunity) and 'weird' stuff may happen.

Z, the entire sentence is very cryptic to me in a good sense, especially 'conduit of opportunity'. Can you expand in more detail the interesting references you made?

Sure, you can look at it this way: the energy 'wants' to find expression, but it's stifled due to lack of opportunity (buried in the unconscious). Finding a way to make that aspect of self conscious creates that opportunity (aka acceptance or love or logos). But it's also an energy shared in the 'other-self', the collective. Through working, asking 'questions', it's as if you've 'epitomized' something that was heretofore a mere apprehension (currently to most it's not even that, it's just vague energy) - something on the cusp of consciousness. It's now available. But, it's not just available for you, it's somehow easier for all seeking in that direction. An analogy is the collective as an amoeba, and you, as an individual part is like a pseudopod reaching out for a morsel of food (consciousness). After integrating the info, it's available for conscious use, rather than serving to make you feel out of sorts, or the carrier of 'something big', 'something important', 'imminent', etc.

Also, most people here have obviously been at this point before.

that is an important identification of a facet of spiritualism. it will really happen as such whenever entities start working towards something and asking for it.

it is necessary for people moving forward as such, to learn how to adjust the amount of energy that they are asking/manifesting, not to be overloaded.

[Confused]

it is necessary for people moving forward as such, to learn how to adjust the amount of energy that they are asking/manifesting, not to be overloaded.

It all simply comes down to the act of balancing, I suppose.

[zenmaster]

it is necessary for people moving forward as such, to learn how to adjust the amount of energy that they are asking/manifesting, not to be overloaded.

In my understanding, it's not possible to get overloaded unless there is a lack of honesty. The re-balancing info (or 'path') is always there to shed light on and to examine. The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

But again we tend to have a certain level of discomfort we're willing to tolerate, and a lack of communication (honesty) with self due to misunderstanding or confusion. The greater acceptance would expose the discomfort and the resulting unconscious drive to overextend.

[Confused]

The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

Is this something like the Kundalini awakening?

[zenmaster]

The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

Is this something like the Kundalini awakening?

I was just talking very generally, about the condition we find ourselves in when faced with unconscious (non-integrated) energy. We interpret it (the meaning of the experience) based on what is conscious and that tends to involve several levels or stages as indicated by chakras or subdensities or perhaps the vMemes or Wilber's AQAL, etc.

[unity100]

In my understanding, it's not possible to get overloaded unless there is a lack of honesty. The re-balancing info (or 'path') is always there to shed light on and to examine. The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

unfortunately getting overloaded is not something that is tied to honesty. an entity may be honest, but may get overloaded due to extreme desire in a direction or an inclination/imbalance towards a certain act or manifestation etc.

lack of wisdom seems to play a factor in this. but, it seems to me that, the balancing process by use of wisdom only starts after blue is sufficiently penetrated, understood and used. ie, 6th density, or 6th ray work. it uses blue ray's wisdom and understanding of self and others to balance the self. so for that, honesty is required from the blue ray. but, it just doesnt end there - 6d is an entire density of balancing as we understood from its properties.

it seems honesty with self and others would be necessary even before the balancing work starts.

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The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

Is this something like the Kundalini awakening?

i dont remember any part in Ra material that says intelligent energy moves from bottom towards upwards.

we were told that the creator could only enter from the root of the entity, and the upstreaming flow of creation entered from the root. while downpouring came from the crown chakra.

neither of these were specifically named intelligent energy. we know that everything that exists is intelligent energy, and we can contact it through forehead chakra - 6th chakra.

[Confused]

...but may get overloaded due to extreme desire in a direction or an inclination/imbalance towards a certain act or manifestation etc.

But is not extreme desire what is called WILL?

I am now slightly confused. In many places, Ra asks us to develop and use the faculty of will and faith, but at many places, they also exhort us to release attachment for any particular outcome/manifestation.

How can the two go together?

[Ens Entium]

The will is that faculty that gives us the ability to decide.

The will and desire are coincident in proportion to the strength of desire and the degree to which desire is in alignment (or in opposition) with the will.

Regarding what you said. One may still have a desire without being attached to it.

The will is dependent on many things- desire, faith (in the the self or the outcome), attitude, polarity, emotions, etc.

Something to notice is that when you are sufficiently driven to an objective, such as when playing a game, is that that drive dictates choices and urges choice making- one is seeking in the direction of the objective. The will facilitates seeking. The factors i listed above that the will depends on make up drive, the constitue the polarity in the situation that give the impetus (drive).

Perfectly developed will is equal, in microcosm, to the will of the Creator, since the factors and situations and so on that influence the seeking, and hence the will are the same.

[Confused]

The will is that faculty this gives us the ability to decide.

The will and desire are coincident in proportion to the strength of desire and the degree to which desire is in alignment (or in opposition) with the will.

Regarding what you said. One may still have a desire without being attached to it.

The will is dependent on many things- desire, faith (in the the self or the outcome), attitude, polarity, emotions, etc.

Something to notice is that when you are sufficiently driven to an objective, such as when playing a game, is that that drive dictates choices and urges choice making- one is seeking in the direction of the objective. The will facilitates seeking. The factors i listed above that the will depends on make up drive, the constitue the polarity in the situation that give the impetus (drive).

Perfectly developed will is equal, in microcosm, to the will of the Creator, since the factors and situations and so on that influence the seeking, and hence the will are the same.

How do you guys come up with all this?!! I should say you all are very adept in the material of the LOO.

Thanks, EE, for a smooth elucidation. Much appreciated.

[Edinburgh]

How do you guys come up with all this?!! I should say you all are very adept in the material of the LOO.

I am also amazed as you are Confused. I've read Law of One several times now, and all I understand it is that it is the simplest (clearest) document I've read in all the religious/ spiritual text's I've studied.

Free Will. Love. Forgiveness. All is Creator/ One.

The key is to practice what it says. Analysis is important too. But it's like yoga or football. You've got to practice, practice, practice.

I read some of the word gymnastics here and I'm totally in awe. Then I go back and remind myself to get my internal work done -> meditation, balancing, understanding the heart of self. This is what Hatonn, Ra and all the Confederation channels stress again and again. Meditation is the key.

[Confused]

The key is to practice what it says. Analysis is important too. But it's like yoga or football. You've got to practice, practice, practice.

You hit the bull's eye there, Edinburgh. I needed that. Because I am passing through an intense phase of my life, where practice is most important over theory.

And I liked the expression -- 'word gymnastics'

[zenmaster]

In my understanding, it's not possible to get overloaded unless there is a lack of honesty. The re-balancing info (or 'path') is always there to shed light on and to examine. The 'intelligent energy' moves from root upwards, and where it meets what we've made of our consciousness, we experience all of our disharmonies (and congruences).

unfortunately getting overloaded is not something that is tied to honesty. an entity may be honest, but may get overloaded due to extreme desire in a direction or an inclination/imbalance towards a certain act or manifestation etc.

That desire (extreme or not) is due to lack of honesty. This is the unconscious positioning, the moving forward without balance, which is lack of acceptance, which, as a condition, can only be recognized through honesty.

lack of wisdom seems to play a factor in this. but, it seems to me that, the balancing process by use of wisdom only starts after blue is sufficiently penetrated, understood and used. ie, 6th density, or 6th ray work. it uses blue ray's wisdom and understanding of self and others to balance the self. so for that, honesty is required from the blue ray. but, it just doesnt end there - 6d is an entire density of balancing as we understood from its properties.

This could be true, but seems if one is accepting enough of self, the honesty (or 'wisdom') is readily available.

it seems honesty with self and others would be necessary even before the balancing work starts.

I don't know. People seem to get by just by 'resonating' with things they 'like'. Obviously, this is not going to be a deep working.

i dont remember any part in Ra material that says intelligent energy moves from bottom towards upwards.

we were told that the creator could only enter from the root of the entity, and the upstreaming flow of creation entered from the root. while downpouring came from the crown chakra.

Right, for example in 49.5.

neither of these were specifically named intelligent energy. we know that everything that exists is intelligent energy, and we can contact it through forehead chakra - 6th chakra.

Take a look at 12.31, 15.12, 27.7, and 54.11.

Also 18.6, with regards to post #40:

Thus, you have two simple directives: awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in nature, awareness of the intelligent energy expressed in self to be shared when it seems appropriate by the entity with the social complex, and you have one infinitely subtle and various set of distortions of which you may be aware; that is, distortions with respect to self and other-selves not concerning free will but concerning harmonious relationships and service to others as other-selves would most benefit.

[unity100]

That desire (extreme or not) is due to lack of honesty. This is the unconscious positioning, the moving forward without balance, which is lack of acceptance, which, as a condition, can only be recognized through honesty.

This could be true, but seems if one is accepting enough of self, the honesty (or 'wisdom') is readily available.

not quite. the entity may be honest with itself. it may be aware that it has an overly imbalanced desire, and yet, it may still be strongly desiring it.

awareness/knowledge of the situation, through honesty or else, does not just balance it.

blue is the ray in which entity learns the dance, and gains wisdom, but indigo is the ray the entity balances itself.

from 5d to 6d.

good examples may be seen in lives of artists. they may be aware of what they are desiring, and yet, they cant keep themselves from going for it.

i dont remember any part in Ra material that says intelligent energy moves from bottom towards upwards.

we were told that the creator could only enter from the root of the entity, and the upstreaming flow of creation entered from the root. while downpouring came from the crown chakra.

Right, for example in 49.5.

it says 'universal energy' for the upward flowing energy from the root chakra there. not intelligent energy. it is debatable whether they are synonymous.

The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

neither of these were specifically named intelligent energy. we know that everything that exists is intelligent energy, and we can contact it through forehead chakra - 6th chakra.

Take a look at 12.31, 15.12, 27.7, and 54.11.

i havent seen any points in those naming the upward flowing energy from the root chakra as intelligent energy. they seem to be relevant to contact with intelligent energy.

[unity100]

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/

i have noticed that, the day periods of the mayan calendar in the past few months (the time since 9 march - start of last tzolkin) had coincided with high solar flare/storm/xray activity. the pressure on magnetic field of the earth was consistently high, especially during last day period. (ended like 3 days ago).

the pressure went down steadily in around 3 days into this night period, and now as you can see, magnetic field is quite calm. actually the pressure faded quite fast in the last 2 days, but still, its a rate of change.

i had had concluded that, the day/night periods coincide with the solar activity.

day periods, with magnetic pressure (hence solar flow coming from the sun in the form of CME or xrays or etc) are rather more comfortable and energetically charged. however, i just sat for 5 minutes on a calm, cool april afternoon in the balcony under the sun, and i had had got surprised with the strength of the sun - not in regard to heat - but the pressure was rather high. this kind of pressure was not there in sun even in noon times of recent summers in 40 degrees celsius.

however each subsequent night seems to be raising in some kind of energy of vibration too, even though still a night.

[Raman]

[....]however each subsequent night seems to be raising in some kind of energy of vibration too, even though still a night.

The correlation makes sense and one important point to consider is that energetically will become stronger and stronger...then the energetic points on earth's grid are receiving this light. it seems that due to earth's rotations and location of these points, areas are receiving this light unevenly.

[unity100]

[....]however each subsequent night seems to be raising in some kind of energy of vibration too, even though still a night.

The correlation makes sense and one important point to consider is that energetically will become stronger and stronger...then the energetic points on earth's grid are receiving this light. it seems that due to earth's rotations and location of these points, areas are receiving this light unevenly.

possible. someone had had linked a study that said earth's magnetic field was changing, in another forum.