04-16-2011, 01:58 PM
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04-16-2011, 02:14 PM
yeah me too.
04-17-2011, 10:40 AM
(04-13-2011, 10:42 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Since wisdom came up in this thread, I thought the following might also be applicable: Say it again!!! For the answer to this query we must begin with the consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the other-self, may be symbolized by poison of the fangs. To use that which a mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side. Signify expressions: indicate emotions into words. Declare the process of making known one's thoughts. Exchange boasts that convey one's opinions publicly. (The session goes further to explain the catalyst of an actual spider bite, and that this was a physical manifestation of a fifth density negative's attempt. )
04-17-2011, 10:41 AM
3DM, brother, what are you doing!! The spider has you all excited, I guess
I made an accidental discovery this morning, since both the book When Prophecy Fails and Andrija Puharich came up in this thread.
Since the psychology team who wrote the book When Prophecy Fails were only interested in their studies in cognitive dissonance, they were not too interested in the woo-woo part of the channeling cult they infiltrated. All they were interested in was 'failed prophecy' and observing the psychological effects on the group members before, during and after the failed prophecy. They used pseudonyms for the members of the cult in their book, to protect their identities, but there are other sources on the web that reveal their identities, and besides, it was quite a national spectacle in the US when it happened, so their identities are well known anyway. Long story short, anyone familiar with the Ra material, would immediately have noticed in the book that the leader of the cult, a suburban housewife, was channeling a negative entity/entities, due to the imminent future doom that was prophesied, which of course never came true. The pseudonym used for her in the book was Marian Keech, but her real name was Dorothy Martin. There was another married couple prominent in the cult, who were true believers, and the pseudonyms used for them in the book were dr. and mrs. Armstrong. So this morning I accidently stumbled onto this link while researching another author - http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har...ortean.htm - which says that the married couple in the book, their real names being Charles and Lillian Laughead, met Andrija Puharich in Mexico, and subsequently maintained contact with him regarding their channeled material. The information at this link is an extract from the book The Stargate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, and pretty much confirms my suspicions about Puharich. Bad juju. Has anyone here read it? From this link it's also clear that the entity/entities (Spectra) that Uri Geller was channeling was also negative, which was a question Don asked Ra back then.
04-17-2011, 12:31 PM
Spectrum, reading the tract that you linked on the Nine, I sort of had a strange thought.
As you must know, the LOO is growing extremely influential across many Western societies, and in fact around the world. And the information/message in the LOO sort of unplugs people from the mental matrix. It demystifies many topics and provides upfront information on sensitive areas. How long would it be before secret government services seek to clamp down? And I am not even taking Orion spiritual entities into account. (04-17-2011, 12:31 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Polarizing? Brilliant wit, 3! Confused Wrote:Spectrum, reading the tract that you linked on the Nine, I sort of had a strange thought. Oh definitely, it was not only the group itself which came under severe attack, efforts to distort the Ra material have been going on ever since. Many channels have subsequently distorted key concepts in Law of One, parroting the Law of One to try and gain credibility, and led many people astray. I don't even use the term 'new age', because it is dominated by hoaxers, frauds and greedy people, cashing in on sincere seekers. It's also great that an organization/movement/religion/institution was never formed around the material. That's wisdom. Truth is universal, it's not anyone's property or exclusive privilege, a claim made by many esoteric or occult groups. The reach of the material must give the 'loyal opposition' sleepless nights From A Dangerous Book by Rodger Stevens: A Dangerous Book Wrote:The growth of the self-discovery industry over the past several decades loudly proclaims the need for more than just more. As usual, however, when a good idea gets organized, it ceases to be alive, so these too have begun to grow into institutions and become pillars of their own sort, begging us to rely on them, when in fact they themselves are operating by the same old rules: growth as an indicator of worth, and as a source of ever-increasing income for those on the inside.
04-17-2011, 01:58 PM
Ocean Wrote:how was the Uri Geller thing negative? Did you read the link I provided?
I guess one will have to read the whole book, The Stargate Conspiracy, to make some proper sense of it all.
http://www.amazon.com/Stargate-Conspirac...600&sr=8-1 Confused Wrote:Spectrum, in another thread, there is an intense discussion on what the Harvest could actually mean, in terms of Ra's usage of it. I've peeked a little over there, nice compilation of references to dual-body entities. Thanks abridgetoofar. I think my views on harvest are a little different from the general consensus on this forum. I don't believe anyone has been harvested from this major cycle yet. I have noticed in myself that what I desire to be so, colours my perception when reading about the harvest, so I've compiled all references to harvest and read it as objectively as possible. My understanding is that we are nearing the end of a major 75 000 year cycle (here we all agree). We are in the last 700 years. Ra couldn't say with certainty where exactly between 100 and 700 years it will occur, as possibility/probability vortexes are always changing (also bearing in mind Ra's difficulty with numerals). I understand my current incarnation to be either my last, or one of my last ones, before harvest. Based on what Ra told us, we basically have a set of certainties and a set of uncertainties, so I just leave the uncertainties where they belong, in the uncertainties tray Also with the above the word 'transition' was used, and then in another explanation 'like clockwork'...so many questions. I also think the catalysts for polarization coming our way in future, are going to be more intense, the closer we get to harvest. With all that said though, I am really trying to focus on the *present* Confused Wrote:I wonder whether Jesus could have been talking about the Harvest here, in terms of the bridegroom! We can only speculate, as is the nature with all the parables. Tolle's explanation makes a lot of sense to me though, which ties in with Ra's constant referral to the need for us to meditate, and reach that state (bridegroom).
04-18-2011, 07:23 AM
(04-18-2011, 05:52 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Also with the above the word 'transition' was used, and then in another explanation 'like clockwork'...so many questions. I had the same thoughts and confusion. Could it be transition over time, possibly started like clockwork at a fixed point? However, either way, as you say focus on the now, and use this time to meditate and balance as much as possible.
04-18-2011, 07:38 AM
(04-18-2011, 07:23 AM)Edinburgh Wrote:(04-18-2011, 05:52 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Also with the above the word 'transition' was used, and then in another explanation 'like clockwork'...so many questions. All speculation aside, one thing I am certain of, my own time will come at the exact striking of the hour, like clockwork. Edinburgh Wrote:Could it be transition over time, possibly started like clockwork at a fixed point? That was one of my considerations as well, that from a certain definite point onwards, people dying are either harvested to 4th density, or incarnating on other 3rd density planets, while earth gradually heads toward completion from 3D to 4D. 3DMonkey Wrote:All speculation aside, one thing I am certain of, my own time will come at the exact striking of the hour, like clockwork. Yep, we all have an appointment with that guy with the hood and sickle...
04-18-2011, 07:50 AM
04-18-2011, 07:59 AM
Which one is that, 3DMonkey? Can you give a link?
04-18-2011, 08:22 AM
04-18-2011, 08:26 AM
3DMonkey Wrote:clickay the green arroway Ooo, I see
Speaking of bible interpretations, the other day I read that the opening of the 7 seals in the book of Revelation, refers to the opening of the 7 energy centers (chakras), and not actual events, as people generally believe.
Maybe the 7 trumpets are the crystallization of the energy centers. I wonder how much of the book of Revelations are actually about one's personal spiritual evolution, and not world end time signs (the seals are generally said to be things like death, famine, world wars, martyrdom, earthquakes, and the Antichrist) I found this book on Revelations, which looks interesting: Revelation Revealed: The Esoteric Meaning of the Book of Revelation - Dorothy Leon http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product...stseller=Y Revelation Revealed Wrote:Revelation means revealed. Throughout the Ages, the teachings of the Mystic Path that lead mankind back to God have not been revealed for two reasons: (1) for fear that the wrong people would abuse the divine powers, and (2) because the authorities who sought to enslave mankind by withholding the Truth, would have destroyed or distorted them. Since education brings freedom, keeping the masses ignorant is a means of control. The four horsemen reminds me a little of the tarot archetypes in Ra. From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse wikipedia Wrote:An Apocalypse (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted. The Apocalypse of John (Greek Ἀποκάλυψις Ἰωάννου) is the Book of Revelation, the last book of the New Testament. ....hhmmmmmmm...
04-18-2011, 11:15 AM
On that note, I have read the final days of Jesus as a representation of a "harvest" as well.
The Bible is a valid spiritual book, just when it creates a box and becomes literal- people use it for harm.
04-19-2011, 01:50 AM
The 'positively influenced' parts of the bible are valid spiritual advice, the negatively influenced parts that advocate separation are responsible for too much sorrow and confusion to mention.
I'm only interested in re-exploring everything surrounding Jesus, from what I now know about him from the Ra material.
04-19-2011, 05:36 AM
(04-19-2011, 01:50 AM)Spectrum Wrote: I'm only interested in re-exploring everything surrounding Jesus, from what I now know about him from the Ra material. I think Jesus had a particular mission with respect to the Harvest as well, as he always seemed to exhort people to prepare for the 'day of god'. In no way do I know the process of the Harvest; but Jesus apparently had some ideas, I guess.
04-19-2011, 06:28 AM
Well. There was the Jesus that existed and The Jesus that was written.
The written part can help us look into ourselves and find some answers. The existed part influenced the people of the time. As for any written work, it is our mind/body/spirit opening up to new possibilies that is the enlightenment. As I said, when we use written material to restrict more opening, we close ourselves off to possibilities. In other words, intelligent ininity. In my opinion.
**COMPLETE TANGENT: this is not about harvest at all.**
I've been looking into the Jesus connection and its been an eye-opener but pretty sweet too! First, born and raised in a religious home, but not crazy or anything. Parents are good people. I took a bunch of upper level university courses on theology/religious studies, and learnt much about the non-canonical gospels and the historical jesus. Very interesting, but gave me my first dose of realizing that a solid chunk of the bible/religion is not 100% up front... Anyways, I really took an interest in the Gospel of Thomas (sorry, wrong one earlier!) and the gospel of Judas (the 'traitor'), for a few stories that have come to surface in the LOO material. Here is my interpretations: Jesus comes to Earth to help with harvest as a 4D being of the highest order. Ra tells us of Jesus getting angry and killing a boy as a small child, thus starting the karma wheel against himself; this is found in the gospel of thomas as well, but if i remember correctly, it branches into 2 possible endings (just one reason why its not accepted): one where Jesus resurrects the boy after being taken to the temple and all is well, and another where the boy is not resurrected similar to the story Ra tells. This account has always very interesting to me, so to see it mentioned in the LOO material the first time blew me away. So anyways, from that point onward, Jesus is awoken to who he really is and why he is here. However, with this also means that he becomes aware of what he has done, and how much karma he has accrued through the murder of the boy. (sidenote: was this his pre-incarnational contract? more on that later.) For me, this is where Jesus starts making more sense: He has a goal. Often, I find people talk of Jesus as if he was some calm, stoic oracle figure, that drifted around making all those around him smile and laugh. He wasn't anything like that. He was unkempt, he hung out with dirty people, he had nearly nothing to his name, he was a radical; the equivalent of a obscene comedian now-a-days who just happened to spit truth. The historical Jesus was driven and passionate; the exact opposite of the quiet, temperate Jesus the church has turned him into. It makes more sense to me because he seemed to know what was coming. In the garden of gethsemane, Jesus knows he's about to be murdered; he wants a 'get out of jail free' card from the system. "Just forgive me this karma just once, ok?" If this was his pre-incarnational contract, it makes some sense. Give a rockstar 4D entity a terrible karma burden, and let them work their magic, while the 3D entities take notes. The other part I mentioned was the gospel of Judas. This book infers 2 things that i find very interesting. First, apparently Judas was chosen by Jesus to betray him, meaning Jesus was in on it. He wanted to get on the cross according to this gospel. The other small point deals with the whole Judaism/Yahweh thing. At one point in the gospel, Jesus says to Judas that even the other disciples do not truly follow the same God as Jesus does. He is distinguishing between the Jewish God (the logos 'yahweh') and the 'God' that Jesus belongs to (OIC or unity). Also, doesn't the resurrection/ascension make more sense if he was a 4D/5D entity post-cross? He resurrects himself, adjusts his vibrations down to be able to visit earth for a short while, and then move on by turning into a light being and ascending into the sky.... Just kinda makes sense to me. Long story short: I see the LOO Jesus as a driven, passionate leader that is much more in line with the historical jesus than the religious one.
04-19-2011, 06:41 PM
There is no "end". There is no "beginning".
Everything happens in the NOW. We can make the NOW as good or as bad as we want it to be.
04-19-2011, 07:39 PM
I like it hogey11.
You left out where he met up with a couple of his 4D/5D brothers at the transfiguration before going to the cross. A family reminder of his true nature? Then the harvest likenesses. The veil is ripped in two. The earth experiences a global earthquake/shift. Then the dead saints rise out of graves and walk around town preaching. Dead saints or unusual higher density beings?
04-19-2011, 08:11 PM
Very well written post, hogey11. Lot of great information to pursue upon. Thank you.
Hey, 3, I see you are on a trail there. Nice work, mate. |
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