the ultimate act of compassion - Japan

[transiten]

Hmmmm, i actually had a PM from a mod on another forum considering i was "whining" over - i don't remeber what...how do you ban a mod

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[Ankh]

transiten - lol!!!!!

3DM - I loved your post! Wonderful to hear! Heals my heart!

[unity100]

I haven't been on the forum for a good 3~4 months...
First thread i read and i am noticing that the tones of peoples replies have changed... never seen disagreements happen.
Something makes me sad and worry...Where has true love and acceptance gone?
We are all one, no matter what.
There's no point in picking out the misfits in the puzzle.
Without every single individual piece, we will never be a perfect picture.

love, acceptance, being one, does not mean agreeing in everything.

there would be no need for love or acceptance or anything else in a situation where everyone agrees on everything.

[Ankh]

love, acceptance, being one, does not mean agreeing in everything.

there would be no need for love or acceptance or anything else in a situation where everyone agrees on everything.

Amen, brother.

What should one do if one finds that their words hurted other self according to you?

[norral]

heres a link about the original subject of the thread
From the Event Horizon Chronicle:

Sayonara, Tokyo
And so begins the radioactive ruination of Japan, and much of the rest of the world, at the hands of the nuclear demons unleashed in Fukushima by General Electric and the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO). The harsh reality, the cruel truth of the matter, is that this ghastly crisis is going to last months or maybe years, and maybe even a very, very long lot of years, given that the half-life of plutonium 239 is twenty-four thousand years.

But don't take my word for it. Here it is straight from the horse's mouth, a bit evasive, but nevertheless a tolerable admission of the truth:

“'Regrettably, we don't have a concrete schedule at the moment to enable us to say in how many months or years (the crisis will be over),' TEPCO vice-president Sakae Muto said ...” (1)

Months or years, the man says. Meanwhile, by the day, the crisis spirals more and more out of control and radiation levels are soaring to their highest levels since the reactors first began melting down and exploding. (2,3,4)

Tokyo is only about 160 miles from the site of the reactors that are melting down. As radiation levels rise in the region it is a firm guarantee that more and more radioactivity will fall out on Tokyo.

No doubt about it.

The inevitable consequence of that will be a dramatic withering of the cultural, social, commercial and economic life of the huge Tokyo megalopolis. As more and more people abandon Tokyo it will become a radioactive shadow of its former self. Of course the economic implications of that for global finance and commerce are immense, Tokyo is one of the three major centers of high finance in the world, along with London and New York, so its abandonment therefore has ineluctable repercussions that will rock the modern, global civilization to its core.

Do you think I'm full of it? That I don't know what I'm talking about?

Tell that to the 25 foreign governments that have already either closed their embassies in Tokyo, or have evacuated Tokyo and moved their embassies to Osaka. (5)

Tell that to the international bankers who are now fleeing Tokyo and Japan in droves. (6)

Tell that to the U.S. Navy which announced on March 17th that it was prepared to evacuate as many as 87,000 personnel if necessary. (7)

Tell that to the USO that announced two days later on March 19th that the U.S. Military has begun a voluntary evacuation of up to 200,000 military personnel and their dependents from Japan. (8, 9)

While all of this has been going on the Japanese government has also urged more evacuations and quietly widened the evacuation zone around the melting down Fukushima reactors. (10, 11)

The plain English translation of all of this activity is that the evacuation of Fukushima, of Japan, and of Tokyo, has already begun. Large numbers of people are already “voluntarily” on the move and fleeing from harm's way. The longer the crisis grinds on, the greater the numbers of people who will leave.

The impact on Japan, Tokyo and the world is incalculable. The dominoes are just beginning to topple and where this concatenation of catastrophic events will finally end, no one can say with certainty just yet.

But I can promise you this much: The Mother Of All Radioactive Roller Coaster Rides has left the starting gate and life will never again be the same for any of us. These weeks, thus, effectively mark the end of one era, and implicitly herald the beginning of another.

We are in new territory now, uncharted, radioactive territory and as this crisis grinds on, one of its initial big victims will assuredly be the city of Tokyo. If these reactors cannot be brought under control then its fate is all but sealed.

Like swarming rats fleeing a sinking ship, the mass exodus of “international bankers” from Tokyo and Japan over the past two weeks has a transparently plain meaning: it's finished, it's over.

So, sayonara, Tokyo. What comes next will not be pleasant.


Source links:

(1) http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/2...3620110328
(2) http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/2...6020110327
(3) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12872707
(4) http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110326D26JF033.htm
(5) http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breakin...bassies-in- tokyo/story-e6frf7jx-1226026999531
(6) http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16...3R20110316
(7) http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/03/na...an-031711/
(8) http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-thousand...?track=rss
(9) http://www.kirotv.com/news/27248974/detail.html
(10)(10)http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world/...ml?_r=2&hp
(11)(11)http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japa...story.html

[3DMonkey]

Snap! Let's get ready to love people. It can happen anytime anywhere. Ready?

("&" from now on means I'm going to say something silly intentionally)

& Wilcock says it'll all be okay. No more catastophes. That means it's true&

[Shemaya]

Thanks norral for the info and links. Japan is on my mind...and I find everyone around me is so busy with everyday lives that there is not much awareness about it.

It is good to have a place that I can read others thoughts about what's happening on planet earth. I don't know many that have keen awareness about it.

I haven't posted much in a while because I haven't felt led to do so, and I am personally very sensitive to the energy that comes across in forum communications, and I find that if I read something that is hurtful or rude or arrogant or competitive or "superior" even if not directed at me, it becomes a catalyst for me. (I am not speaking of anyone specifically that posts on bring4th!) Maybe I am too sensitive and empathic, but those qualities usually lead to me being a catalyst for someone else if I act on my feelings. And lately I have had much catalyst, and opportunities to "look into the mirror" so I am not needing more from this forum or any other.

It would be a haven for me if i found a place that felt "safe" to express my thoughts and feelings about this awakening process that I've been through, but right now this is not it for me.

Thank you norral for expressing your thoughts and feelings on this, the only way we can change things and change ourselves is if people are willing to speak up and express themselves and also be heard....since blue ray is a two-way street.

Namaste

[Confused]

I share your deep pain, Norral, and I can relate to the sense of desperate helplessness very well. I think it is very important that we all together tell god. I offer my prayers along with yours, to increase the strength of our call.

[unity100]

love, acceptance, being one, does not mean agreeing in everything.

there would be no need for love or acceptance or anything else in a situation where everyone agrees on everything.

Amen, brother.

What should one do if one finds that their words hurted other self according to you?

monica and lorna had had provided a good approach in another thread regarding this. i think it was titled 'free will and other selves' or something.

[transiten]

Well as an extremely plutonic person (scorpio sun conj mercury square pluto, mooon sextile pluto, venus Bq pluto, pluto 45 uranus, uranus intercepted in the 10:th house opposite venus) the issue of nuclear power has been there since i was born. In the big Daily News the headlines the day i was born-nov 18 1949, was about the Nuclear Bomb and also Molotov cocktails.

There was also a picture from a medieval church with paintings showing humans and animals playing pranks, I'm a singer/songwriter and musiscian - medieval music also, and have been doing some stand-up comedy, hence i can't stop myself from joking about serious matters.

As the horoscope is a mirror of the energies at work when you were born i use this example when i lecture in astrology.

Anyway i remember asking my aquarian (ruled by uranus) father about war when i was four and I have been engaged in the peacemovement (Libra moon conj neptune, venus/neptune/North node T-square) against placing nuces in Europe f.i. and the nuclearpower resistance since Three Mile Island often singing on the 8:th of aug to remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Scorpio energies reflect a tendency to deep probing black and white tendencies and my Libra (balance/unbalance the scales) moon has had a hard time balancing this which to me means that i easily swing between the extremes, as in this case i feel there's something to norral's perspective on the Japanese disaster-remember Mars and Maldek-at the same time my Libra moon wants harmony and peace and this is what i choose to picture whatever the outcome, but i won't "stick my head into the sand" either as we say in Sweden.

According to CG Jung individuation is to contain both the dark and the light inside yourself without projecting the dark onto others, actually projecting too much light may be detrimental also since one might overidealize someone not seeing the darkness one should avoid leading to codependency.

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Hmmmm, i actually had a PM from a mod on another forum considering i was "whining" over - i don't remeber what...how do you ban a mod

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I just started a new thread "Prayers and affirmations" and the post would have fit in here but i thought there might be need for a thread for both personal and collective prayers and affirmations-had the idea from Divine Cosmos.

And the "whining comment" should have been posted in the "homesickness thread"...mercury retrograde you know..

[norral]

heres the latest on the situation in japan. to me i would try and start sealing this thing up. every country that can help imo should be involved.

http://enenews.com/

[Confused]

I agree, norral. And I am with you on the prayers thread, transiten.

[3DMonkey]

My wife was convinced by her college professors that Nuclear Energy was incredibly clean.

... She has reconsidered.

I think they should all be sealed up.

My wife's hometown boomed when the nuclear power plant was built. There are current plans to add additional reactors. The citizens are okay with it. Why? Money.

[Joseph326]

When we can unconditionally love and appreciate one another, *and* our differences in perspective, true communication and understanding can occur without distortion.

The greatest act of compassion, for me, would be to accept and love everyone equally. From the Japanese, to the Libyans, to your neighbors, family, in-laws, governments, coworkers, and even the other-self on the internet forum who does not *seem* to reflect love in the way that is most comforting

Gaia is affected by the collective consciousness of humanity. Perhaps when we all have our hearts open towards one another, there will be no more need for such large catalyst to encourage our growth.

[norral]

but i guess my question is "what is love". as a parent i disciplines my
kids . i can remember several incidents where if i was to describe them
people would say what the heck. but was i supposed to say its ok to my kids to do drugs. because i didnt want to ruffle their feathers. no i had to draw a line in the sand, no drugs period . thankfully they have all turned out pretty good but in my mind i wouldnt have been doing my job to pretend
some drugs are ok . in the same sense if someone is insulting are we supposed to act as though we enjoy it . i personally cant bend myself into that kind of pretzel. one last thing communication on the internet is not real communication. people say things on the internet they would never ever say face to face. thats just the way it is. so defining a "loving reaction" to me is difficult.
norral

[3DMonkey]

Norral, you've done nothing wrong.

I do look forward to reading your signature uplifting posts.

[Monica]

but i guess my question is "what is love". as a parent i disciplines my
kids .

Yes, as parents we must discipline our kids (though there are differing opinion as to how to do that).

Here in an online community, no one is in the position of 'parent' or 'authority' so it's a different dynamic.

so defining a "loving reaction" to me is difficult.

Hmmm...I wonder what Jesus would do.

[unity100]

Hmmm...I wonder what Jesus would do.

superintendent ......... chalm....

i cant just take myself away from this.

[Monica]

superintendent ......... chalm....

i cant just take myself away from this.

Hey! I was being serious! What would Jesus do?

[Ankh]

superintendent ......... chalm....

i cant just take myself away from this.

lol!!!

[3DMonkey]

I don't get it

[Ankh]

I don't get it

It's a joke between me and my secret love.

[Joseph326]

Dear Brother,

Love is contained in and creates the very existence of every moment, thing, and thought in existence. You can find love in any interaction if you open up to it.

As the YOU-niverse expands in consciousness with every passing moment and every interaction, it is quite normal to encounter new situations in which the experience of love appears different, or in which it is difficult to even find the love in a way you are accustomed to. Remember that you are the Creator, and that all love and all new experiences are actually flowing from you, reflecting back to you what is within so that you may become conscious of all that you are.

Would you love your children any less if they did go against your advice? You don't have to answer this, you should feel it in your heart.
I do not doubt that the discipline you felt was necessary was due to your loving concern for your children's well-being. Just because the love may not be apparent to a child in that case does not mean it isn't there. There could also be love or reasons behind someone else's words that you may not know are there also.

No matter what someone's intent with their words or actions is, it is ultimately YOUR choice of how to *respond.* If you *react* you are focusing on what you do not prefer by pushing back at it. By responding, you can choose how you want to feel, and how you want to think about the situation. Noone else can choose your state of being for you. It is not that you are expected to allow yourself to be pushed around. Instead, you could shed light on the situation for yourself and quite possibly the other self by responding with love. If they are truly being negative towards you, they will be forced to move elsewhere with the negativity. If there is just a misunderstanding then it should clear up quickly as an open heart allows for the clarity of the so-called blue ray energy center to improve communication.

I felt I could possibly be of help since I have been working with similar catalyst myself and wanted to share what worked in my experience. Please do not take any of this as anything other than suggestions, only you know what is correct for your path. You are loved and supported by ALL of Creation in all that you do.

[Confused]

What would Jesus do?

I think Jesus would look for an option that would protect the true dignity of all. Outwardly, that may not conform to the normal romanticized and idealized version of 'love'.

Did Jesus not berate and whip the traders outside the holy temple of God in Jerusalem? He drove the money changers out, accusing them of turning the holy father's house into a market place. If that was done today, such a person would be in a high security mental asylum or penitentiary. And of course, it is definitely not advisable at any cost . But I bring that up in order to attempt a full image of Jesus, against the extremely dovish (or allegedly loving) aura that is cast upon him.

At the same time, if we raise an accusing finger at those rendered 'immoral' due to force of circumstances, Jesus would look at us in the eye and ask, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her," (John 8:7). And when the force of unrighteous anger and hatred in us dies before Jesus' spiritual honesty, he would turn towards the true repentant with loving empathic eyes and say "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more," (John 8:11).

And all the while, Jesus would proclaim the supreme highness of god, before his puny earth personality. I think that is what Jesus would do. He truly is an exemplar. No wonder the entity has inspired millions over the centuries, to find dignity in god and humankind. I pray to god that I receive the ability to project love and honesty, as Jesus did.

[3DMonkey]

superintendent ......... chalm....

i cant just take myself away from this.

Hey! I was being serious! What would Jesus do?

Monica. Help. I'm disturbed by this.

[Monica]

Monica. Help. I'm disturbed by this.

?? What do you find disturbing?

I was being serious. Unity100 made a joke. Jesus was a Wanderer who exemplified near-100% green ray love. So I really was wondering what would Jesus do in that situation?

Does that clear it up for you?

[turtledude23]

Hmmm...I wonder what Jesus would do.

superintendent ......... chalm....

i cant just take myself away from this.

Holy s***, thats the second time I saw you make a joke

[Aaron]

love, acceptance, being one, does not mean agreeing in everything.

there would be no need for love or acceptance or anything else in a situation where everyone agrees on everything.

Amen, brother.

What should one do if one finds that their words hurted other self according to you?

monica and lorna had had provided a good approach in another thread regarding this. i think it was titled 'free will and other selves' or something.

Here's the link to that thread: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2459

[norral]

none of us can say what christ would do in any situation. there was the situation with mary magdalene where he said if they dont condemn u neither do i go and sin no more. yet with the scribes and pharisees he was very harsh. the dividing line with christ to me seemed to be the humility of the people he was talking to. if they were humble he didnt seem to have a problem with them, if they were arrogant he let them have it in no uncertain terms.
so the dividing line with him seemed to be humility and arrogance. that seems to be a pretty good place to start for me as to determining my personal reaction to people

norral