Being a wanderer...

[aWanderer91]

Hi everyone,

So being a wanderer is tough, it's hardly a claim that one would make from the ego with the idea that to be a wanderer somehow makes one higher than earthlings. Quite the opposite, I've quite envied earthlings at times, that ability to join in and for this planet to feel like home must feel so unnoticeably nice and comfortable.

I know I had a major identity crisis until I read the Ra material, which was in my late 20's, my whole life I would experience different states of consciousness and feel an intense love for all but I didn't know why I had these experiences or felt this love. I knew others around me didn't have these, that was quite obvious, so it was like a part of me was living two separate lives. The ego part, where I went to school, got jobs, had relationships and enjoyed certain hobbies and another part of me was utterly timeless and all loving. Having an awakening brought enormous realisations with it, it was extremely special and helped me to understand why I felt so different and then reading the Ra material helped me to understand I was a wanderer and it really helped me understand my identity.

Q'uo doesn't seem to place too much emphasis on understanding what planet you are from or even what social memory complex you are from and I think I get this. To them, it could only become a distraction and make one ungrounded to know this information, it's transient compared to the real life impact of living our current life on earth, but I feel this information is much more important than that.

To know your origins and your true soul family (social memory complex) could bring enormous comfortability providing one doesn't make an ego out of this information and run around screaming how much further advanced they are, while also not understanding that not everyone would get this information.

How do you guys feel about knowing (or feeling) you are a wanderer and not knowing the full information about where you are from? What guides you have? Etc?. Basically, how do you feel being a wanderer but also operating under the veil? How have you found comfortability and peace with this?

Much love and light to all who read this and I would really love and enjoy to hear your thoughts, I could learn a lot

[3-24-2022]

I think it's fairly accurate to say you are half and half of each of your parents. Those ideas of your personality coming from some other place are unique but what does that mean for your genes?

[IndigoSalvia]

I have no certainty about being a wanderer, or any type of being. But, I often feel like I am walking with one foot in the spiritual realm, and another in the physical realm.

All I think I "know" is my flesh within this grand illusion, which is very real and convincing to me. Yet, my spirit whispers to me, it yearns and is called in a different fashion that can not be fully known to me, no matter how hard I grasp at it.

When I seek discrete, clear answers to the many questions jumping around in my head, I usually am given/find hints, clues, and sometimes enigmas. And, these must be my comfort, a light to guide my way. Like breadcrumbs along my path.

Knowing, sensing or intuiting (but not knowing in the rational/logical sense with 100% certainty) is a delicate place to be, sometimes uneasy place to be. Or, it can be a magical place to be, a mystery-filled place beckoning us ever-forward.

And it is here that I remind myself: this 3D is not of the knowing, the provable.

In a beingness of One, truly One, we are all family. You, me, the flora and fauna, the ground upon which we walk, and many, many beings which I can barely, if at all, fathom ... we are all family.

Now, this doesn't answer - directly or explicitly - any of our burning questions. So, in walks "faith" and "intuition" ... to hold our hands as we walk.

I wonder if - for those of us who have such questions - we can seek answers within meditation, in chats with spirit guides. Ask for confirmation perhaps of our intuition, our hunches. Ask for our plan (incarnation) to be revealed to us (perhaps, in as far as we are ready to take responsibility for such knowledge).

I am very interested to read others' responses.

[aWanderer91]

I like what you say here IndigoSalvia, "this 3D is not of the knowing, the provable." I would be wise to remember this.

And I think you are right, using meditation and the sincere desire to know these things must give us the hunches and clues in someway, I think I've had these but there's still the frustration of living in a realm (earth) where we would never know for sure, unless...

I feel that upon the opening of the indigo ray that a lot would be easily seen and more definite answers would come. Once the indigo opens it becomes easier to delve into the unseen and the future. And being able to step out into the light body would help a lot too, to be able to travel around with freedom and to have the direct contact with guides/teachers would allow us to ask all the questions we have

[tadeus]

To know your origins and your true soul family (social memory complex) could bring enormous comfortability providing one doesn't make an ego out of this information and run around screaming how much further advanced they are, while also not understanding that not everyone would get this information.

How do you guys feel about knowing (or feeling) you are a wanderer and not knowing the full information about where you are from? What guides you have? Etc?. Basically, how do you feel being a wanderer but also operating under the veil? How have you found comfortability and peace with this?

I would say the Ego is made 100% from this time and density.

The interesting thing are the feelings not to belong to the other people, or that this is not really your home (planet).
This feellings are coming from the higher self and only infiltrate the Ego, in my case feeling uncomfortable my whole life, until i get the chance to comprehend with the Ra material what has happened.
Of course it would have been easier to know this earlier.

I think i have to accept that the programming was to good, or i have preincarnatic decided that i must wake up after the harvest.
At least it is not important where i am coming from, the important thing is to know why i am here.

[aWanderer91]

I hear what you are saying Tadeus and I feel knowing why we are here is much more important than where we resided before incarnating. If I had the choice between knowing my current mission or my soul origins, I would definitely choose to know why I am here

[zedro]

Yeah the whole soul origin deal can be a real pitfall, maybe for some its useful to 'justify the awakening', but it seems to me there's a real possibility that info/mis-info is fed to people by negative sources who seek to distract and confuse, such is Quo's and Ra"s warnings. There's a real danger in the 'New Age Ego' and the lack of discernment that comes with it, in the form of non/bad spiritual practice, so it's like you say, your present service and practices are way more important and hopefully one doesn't get tricked into some fantastical narrative that is counter productive.

That's why it's so important to keep working on oneself to be ready and serviceable for your self assignment, if you aren't already actively pursuing it, and don't get too hung up on a space opera and your role in it.

[aWanderer91]

Very well put Zedro and I really appreciate your input here. I feel I'm becoming more grounded, more detached from the label of "wanderer", only gradually but it's happening. The initial high of realising (feeling) I was a wanderer was beautiful, but I can't help but feel it's a label I've become attached to, while it leaves me more detached from others and my surroundings on earth.

I see up to now that it's almost taken me away from my mission, while I feel I've made no ego out of this in terms of feeling I'm above anyone for thinking I'm a wanderer, I've definitely spent too long in the narrative of wondering where my soul originates from as if this information is more important than my present lifetime on earth. A lot has sunk in since I posted this thread yesterday.

I just want to focus on the now and enjoy being a human being for the time being

[tadeus]

I see up to now that it's almost taken me away from my mission, while I feel I've made no ego out of this in terms of feeling I'm above anyone for thinking I'm a wanderer, I've definitely spent too long in the narrative of wondering where my soul originates from as if this information is more important than my present lifetime on earth. A lot has sunk in since I posted this thread yesterday.

I just want to focus on the now and enjoy being a human being for the time being

I think it is a fallacy that you think you are above anyone just because you allow yourself to be a wanderer.
You are feeling to be different, but want to be like the others, not to be separated from them.
How you will be able to love yourself?

It is the same self like the others, but only in an different state of development.

Indeed, when this inner struggle cannot be mastered, or the mission of the life not fulfilled at this time, it is a good idea to enjoy the time as human being in this incarnation and density.

[3-24-2022]

I think analyzing your last name is a good idea, generally these days it is easy to figure out which ethnic group it is related to. Your dad's dad's dad's name was imposed over the wifes last name over a long period of time in most places.

When I read about a country or want to understand a group of people I look at their ethnicity because it tells you about their genetics, I think of the language they speak, and what religion they or their grandparents were.

I then try to understand which other ethnic group they generally interact with. For example, looking at the continent of Africa, Italian, Portugese, English, and French are spoken. There are other languages but even Nigeria surprisingly speaks English.

This means that Europeans of certain ethnic groups interacted with certain ethnic groups of Africa over time, and for whatever reason, that was the destiny of those groups of people to intermingle. It is very unlikely for example that someone from Kazahkstan ever visited or intermingled with people in Germany hundreds of years ago as an example. If so, it was a rare thing. Their languages were not interchanged, people did not marry. The genetic and linguistic groups did not have a destiny together.

It's all like a soul-swarm of language, genetics, and religion considering religion was just the norm back then. In Europe it was something akin to being a heretic kicked out of society if you were not with a church in a time like the 1500s. Thankfully it isn't that way today, but even 200-300 years ago it would be unusual for someone to claim they had no religion.

[zedro]

Very well put Zedro and I really appreciate your input here. I feel I'm becoming more grounded, more detached from the label of "wanderer", only gradually but it's happening. The initial high of realising (feeling) I was a wanderer was beautiful, but I can't help but feel it's a label I've become attached to, while it leaves me more detached from others and my surroundings on earth. 

I see up to now that it's almost taken me away from my mission, while I feel I've made no ego out of this in terms of feeling I'm above anyone for thinking I'm a wanderer, I've definitely spent too long in the narrative of wondering where my soul originates from as if this information is more important than my present lifetime on earth. A lot has sunk in since I posted this thread yesterday.

I just want to focus on the now and enjoy being a human being for the time being

It's funny because I've been in the opposite position, I've been hesitant to ever defacto consider myself as such, worrying about the ego aspect and how insane it can all be considered (despite the insane circumstances I've been through), and that has also maybe set me back in some ways (at the time at least). For me, the responsibility is pretty terrifying, that I have something to live up to, which means there is something to fail at. So I've been very reluctant to adopt the description, despite having strangers come out of the woodwork to help me understand. 

Also seeing how it can affect people, turning them into the 'holy man' and adopting a new (fake) personality as a wise guru, or worse, witnessing the cultish aspects that can manifest around them from impressionable people who seek divine leadership.

They way I look at it, if we are considering ourselves as a wanderers, we've got alot of work to do on ourselves and need to be vigilant to maintain one's potential. And it's nothing to boast about, our past spiritual accomplishments should simply be a scaffold that reminds one that they can do this as long as they keep a good healthy perspective.

[aWanderer91]

I've just been so markedly different since I was a child, not so much as feeling I was separate to everything, but the different states of consciousness I would experience (mostly constant bliss), the overwhelming love I felt for all and my ability to enter the now was quite a different way of living compared to how I recognised others to be living. So to discover I was a wanderer was not something new in a sense, it was something I naturally accepted and it helped me to understand who I was. I knew from a young age I wasn't an ego, that there was no "me" to identity with, I was just a blank canvass of awareness and without the spiritual information to go with that, it left me with an identity crises.

I feel in your case, you have been given the catalyst and lessons to face up to being a wanderer, to own it and to have acceptance in that. In my case, I feel like life has been knocking me down from the heavens, that my ignorance towards the world while living in the natural constant bliss that I use to live in will not get me very far in terms of my mission here.

But I feel we meet in the middle in terms of the goal is to recognise who and what we are, to remain vigilant as you say and never forget the huge responsibility we carry here. To live carefully and mindfully seems to be the best way forward, and to find our home in the now which in turn allows us to return to purity and innocence seems to be our greatest ally and defense.

[Spiritualchaos]

I actually thought I’d give some input on this topic since I have discussed this with my partner a lot.

To begin with, I don’t think there is anything wrong with anyone suspecting they are a wanderer or using that word to describe what they think is a definition of why they feel out of place on Earth. It doesn’t mean anything to anyone except to that entity who believes there is something to understand/learn from that definition of who they believe they are. Most people who come to this conclusion do a lot of self inquiry, meditation, and reflection on the catalysts and patterns in their lives extensively. If a person chooses to adopt that label on the fly as an ego badge to feel special, they might have something different to learn from feeling like this label applies to them. If they think it makes them special, I’m pretty sure they don’t quite understand what it actually means to be one.

In the 2018 channellings, they asked how many wanderers were on the planet since the Law of One was channeled. As of 2018, there was 350 million wanderers which is only about 4.5% of the world population. There are 500 million dual-body activated entities here, far more than there are wanderers. But even so, that means 1 out of every 10 people you meet might be one of these types. So if you are drawn to this information and it resonates with you deeply, it is most likely true. Even in the channellings, there are several where the questioners ask straight up if Q’uo can confirm their belief of being a wanderer, and almost every single time they confirmed it, except in one circumstance where the person asking was unsure and wasn’t looking for confirmation. It makes me feel that those who know, just know. They don’t need the confirmation but I’m sure it helps their mind come to terms with it more.

I put in the percentages from a world population of 8 billion people, as the percentages were not included in the original channeling.

Fox: Q'uo, I would like to ask: those of Ra told us that there were around 60 million wanderers on Earth in 1981. In the last channeling session, those of Q'uo stated that many of you are from elsewhere to aid this planet in its transition to the fourth density, and that those of Q'uo have knowledge of this type of experience, because many of you are portions of our own being, and have gone forth through the veil of forgetting to join others of like mind and kind, to serve the one in the many within the Earth planes. If you are able to tell us, roughly how many wanderers are there now in the Earth’s population?

Quo: I am Q'uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. At this time there are approximately 350 million of these entities who have incarnated within your Earth planes in order to offer their service to those of this planet who would request such. Many have come in recent times also from other third- density planets who have made the graduation there, and are incarnating in what you may call the “doubly-activated bodies” in order to be of service in helping this planet make its transition into the fourth density of love and understanding. The number of these entities exceeds that of the wanderers, (4.375%) reaching nearly half a billion entities. (6.25%)  (10.625% Wanderers/Dual Activated Bodies)

Basically how I feel is to look deeply into your reasons behind feeling that this identification describes you. Personally, it gave me meaning and purpose to a life that felt like it was anything but. It helped me understand myself in ways I never thought possible and made it so I finally could feel love for myself. So for me, finding this out was the greatest gift I could have ever received. I was ready for the information and it came to me organically. I think that is also important. How you come to this information also has a story to tell you. So basically I believe you need to be honest with yourself as to what your real reasons are for feeling connected to this concept and decide if it’s for your ego or for your soul’s evolution.

When I had my wanderer awakening, I felt resistance whenever I tried to access past memories, planetary origins, past life identities you had, etc. I was told by my higher self that that information was not necessary now, as I am now a resident of Earth and need to focus on my mission here. I have had clues given to me in dreams, meditations, and when using psilocybin therapeutically of life on another more harmonious plane of existence. There are ways to find out little details but you’ll never quite know what they mean until this incarnation is over, so you have to take so much of this on faith and intuition.

Regarding your social memory complex, most are usually not in contact you while incarnated, instead you have access to guides. You have a guide of a feminine nature, a guide of the masculine nature, and one that is androgynous. This is where I read about this in the chanellings.

F: I would like to ask something. Q’uo, I wonder if you would give me any insight into—you mentioned that wanderers could receive inspiration and help from the social memory complex, that they are a part of. Could you give me further information on how one who believes they are a wanderer may be able to fine tune that connection with their social memory complex? And any insight as to whether that has—if the Law of Confusion plays into that process at all?

I am Q’uo and am aware of your query, my sister. Though it is quite possible to receive information and inspiration from those of one’s own social memory complex, we would suggest it is more helpful if one seeks in general to receive inspiration and information from whatever source is most appropriate for you at a particular time. For most entities there are those guides that are assigned, shall we say, for this very purpose. There is also the possibility of accessing the higher self which has information which is, shall we say, in the future of your beingness, and has application to your own situation that is most informative.

To seek specifically from a certain source may not be as efficacious as to simply seek in general with great passion and perseverance from whatever is the source that is most appropriate for you at a particular time. Various of the guides and portions of the higher self and subconscious mind make themselves available to the conscious seeker, depending upon part of the process of seeking the seeker is now engaged in, so at some times it is more appropriate to seek from one source than another. However, this is not usually known in a conscious sense. Thus we suggest the seeking in a general sense though with great passion and persistence.

C: I have a question in relation to spirit guides and ones like yourselves. I wonder if you could speak more upon the different types of guides available.

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. There are guides, as they have been called, teachers and friends available for each seeker, and a great variety at that. There are for each entity at least three of those in whose care each seeker may rest. There is the guide of the masculine nature, the guide of the feminine nature, and the guide of the balanced or androgynous nature. These are primary to each entity and will work with each entity according to the needs or level of work upon which the entity has focused its attention within the incarnation. In addition to these, there may be those such as ourselves that move in service to those who are what you would all wanderers within your illusion. Thus, we serve as a guide, or what you may call a Comforter, to many of those who are in harmony with our vibration and from a level of service which seeks to aid those upon this planetary sphere.

In addition, there are those friends or teachers who are called to a seeker’s service at specific or intensive times within the incarnation of the seeker. These entities may have a more narrow or specific purpose to fulfill in guiding the third-density entity. Many times those who are creative within the fields of artistic expression will feel a guidance from such an entity at particular periods of production or creative inspiration.

There are also those friends who may serve as guides who are of the third-density entity’s family, shall we say, and when we speak not only of the Earthly family and one who may have gone through the doors of death and rebirth before the entity to be guided but also of the family of the entity which works from incarnation to incarnation, perhaps one serving as guide or teacher while in the discarnate state and the other in the incarnate state, these trading positions from time to time or incarnation to incarnation.

There are other types of guides as well that are far less usual, shall we say, and of these we can say little except that they do exist and may give a kind of guidance or inspiration upon request, such as that of the prayer, the contemplation, the heartfelt emotion that cries out to all creation and elicits the response of such entities such as these.

Basically I feel like we can access this information as it is necessary for our own personal growth. I think the rest of the details would just derail you from your mission here as we are now citizens of Earth no matter where we came here from. If you find out the details yourself, it is not infringing on free will, so I believe you have options as to what is possible to access, but some stuff will always be closed off to you, as it is not necessary to know or would be confusing to know without context.

Anyways I have all the wanderer channelings saved in a file so I thought I’d use that information to help. I hope this gives it come clarity.

[sillypumpkins]

I wouldn't say I identify as a wanderer, but I certainly feel like a stranger in a strange land here on earth......

I agree with your points about "knowing" whether you're a wanderer. Ultimately, what does it matter to know such a thing? Personally, if I somehow got some "confirmation", or if I all of a sudden "knew" my "origins", I would be like.... "ok....?" lol.

It helps me to remember that I am all things.... I am here on earth, in the form of a human being, and I am also an eternal being whose very nature I do not understand. Holding those two (seemingly) polar opposites in my mind without judgement is something that helps. Practically speaking, I am a human, I need social interaction, I need to eat food. I am also a spirit soul who needs to find meaning and fulfillment in things that others might not understand.

Speaking to that last sentence, I love making art. It brings me such joy. However, in today's society, it is not so easy to "just" be an artist. That is, it doesn't always pay the bills. So in that sense, I have to balance my desire to make art and also the physical reality that I need to make money too. I have to remember, making art fills my soul, while also understanding that in the physical world it can be hard to just do that. Wont stop me from keepin on though

[pat19989]

I have no certainty about being a wanderer, or any type of being. But, I often feel like I am walking with one foot in the spiritual realm, and another in the physical realm.

All I think I "know" is my flesh within this grand illusion, which is very real and convincing to me. Yet, my spirit whispers to me, it yearns and is called in a different fashion that can not be fully known to me, no matter how hard I grasp at it.

When I seek discrete, clear answers to the many questions jumping around in my head, I usually am given/find hints, clues, and sometimes enigmas. And, these must be my comfort, a light to guide my way. Like breadcrumbs along my path.

Knowing, sensing or intuiting (but not knowing in the rational/logical sense with 100% certainty) is a delicate place to be, sometimes uneasy place to be. Or, it can be a magical place to be, a mystery-filled place beckoning us ever-forward.

And it is here that I remind myself: this 3D is not of the knowing, the provable.

In a beingness of One, truly One, we are all family. You, me, the flora and fauna, the ground upon which we walk, and many, many beings which I can barely, if at all, fathom ... we are all family.

Now, this doesn't answer - directly or explicitly - any of our burning questions. So, in walks "faith" and "intuition" ... to hold our hands as we walk.

I wonder if - for those of us who have such questions - we can seek answers within meditation, in chats with spirit guides. Ask for confirmation perhaps of our intuition, our hunches. Ask for our plan (incarnation) to be revealed to us (perhaps, in as far as we are ready to take responsibility for such knowledge).

I am very interested to read others' responses.

There have so many days, especially recently, where I feel confused and doubtful living under the veil. It scares me sometimes that I cannot possibly know what is the "right" path for me, what I am "meant to do" here. But I really think this line of thinking is faulty in and of itself, as there is never one path, never one lesson but many. And as long as we are living and experiencing catalyst, trying our best to grow within ourselves, I think we are doing just fine.

The ego has so many tricks up its sleeve to make us feel like there is a right and wrong to everything, just earlier today I was worrying that I wasn't ever going to feel the oneness of the universe ever again because I have been kind of caught up in my head as of late. Talk about delusion.

But anyway, I'm seeing a little more clearly now, and that peace is starting to arise within me. I'm not sure I'll ever find consistent peace with this life under the veil, but each return to peace serves as a reminder that we are ever changing, and we don't really need to know what's going on. I like to know things, so its hard for me to accept that, but it makes for good catalyst.

Thanks for these questions, aWanderer, I enjoyed pondering them. and thank you to everyone for there responses, great food for thought.

[aWanderer91]

Thank you so much for your responses guys, they're truly inspirational and I'm sure I'll go over them a lot.

I loved your response Spiritualchaos, it seems you have a very grounded view on being a wanderer, you've definitely helped me become more grounded with your response and I appreciate you sharing the Q'uo channelings for me to go over too.

I really love what you say about holding the two polar opposites of being a human being and an eternal being you don't understand in your mind sillypumpkins, this is a balanced view and is a balancing exercise in and of itself. Thank you for sharing this and the world needs more artists so I'm glad you don't let your talent go astray, but the fact that it brings you joy is the main thing.

And yes pat, the veil is truly debilitating, it's crazy that one minute so much can be known and the next minute it's like we're flung back into the darkness, with only a candle light like Q'uo's analogy. I'm really glad to hear that you are feeling more clear and have a little more peace, those times of confusion and despair are only temporary but they feel very real when we're in the midst of them.

The differences are there for me to feel like a wanderer, and the experiences are there for me to feel like one, but it is a concept that can bring great separation if one becomes attached to it or spends too long in the narrative of it I've learned. It's quite obvious what makes me feel different to others around me, and the distinct loneliness I've felt from that since I was a child can't be ignored, but I've spent far too long on the concept of being a wanderer more than I have working out what I have in common with others. I'm moving my mind from the acute loneliness and natural difference of feeling like a wanderer, to what common ground I have with earth and its people and to accept that I am a human being on earth for now. I feel this can only be helpful with my journey and by letting go, I have an intuitive feeling the veil will just gradually get thinner.

Once again, thank you all, it's been extremely helpful to read your views and thoughts on this subject.

[tadeus]

Today i read a nice german article in which the existence of wanderers is confirmed by Dolores Cannon.

Reincarnation: The Three Waves of Volunteers on Earth - Many Come from Other Worlds

Many of Dolores Cannon's clients found themselves on another planet during her reincarnation - including a large number who never had a life on Earth, but who agreed to come here to Earth before their incarnation.

In most cases, according to Cannon, this had to do with the transformation of Earth and the shift in consciousness. Cannon wrote a book about this called "The Three Waves of Volunteers on the New Earth."

Dolores learned that some people have had experiences with aliens since early childhood and that there are often cross-generational relationships between Earth family lines and alien races.

...

Her book, The Custodians (1998), marked a breakthrough publication for Dolores after more than 20 years of declining clients with alien and UFO experiences. We learn that almost all so-called abduction cases are actually mutual agreements made before incarnation to help each other. Just as we experience amnesia about who we are and where we came from before incarnating on Earth, we also experience amnesia about the contracts and agreements we made with others before coming here.

The problem today is that most of humanity's view of extraterrestrials has been shaped and manipulated by mainstream media, religious belief systems, and scientific dogma. How few people are truly able to approach this field with an objective, unbiased attitude. It is understandable that so many people approach this subject with fear, incomprehension or outright rejection.

"The Custodians" helps explain the lack of understanding by:

(a) Establishing that mysterious events and experiences are indeed happening to millions of people on every continent on earth.
(b) These events and experiences are dismissed, denied, and ridiculed by the scientific, governmental, and religious institutions upon which so many people depend for answers.

...

Throughout her career, Dolores identified a pattern in many clients she saw over the years. While many people reported past lives in all types of situations, societies, and cultures on Earth in many different time periods, certain people Dolores visited described that the life they were currently living was the first and only life they ever had on Earth.

When asked where they were from, they would simply say the "source" and express deep sorrow for being here and how much they missed "home." Further sessions with such individuals revealed that the first incarnates actually volunteered to come to Earth at this particular time to help humanity raise its vibration in the ascension process. Some volunteers have never lived in a physical body, others have lived as space beings in alien civilizations on other planets, and others have come from other dimensions.

As a result of the amnesia we all experience before entering the Earth dimension, they do not remember their task or their origin. Therefore, these beautiful souls find it very difficult to adapt to our chaotic world, and they play an important role in helping us all create a new Earth.

In "The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth" (2011), Dolores describes the call for volunteers to help the earth as a result of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. The first wave of volunteers, were the "pathfinders" and certainly had the most difficult time as they prepared the path that those who came after would follow. The second wave acts as an energy antenna. Their job is simply to exist and influence those around them. Third wave volunteers, many of the children with incredible talents, abilities and memories, are literally the gift to the world. They possess the knowledge and wisdom that will help humanity complete the transition and overcome the many obstacles that lie ahead.

In the state of hypnosis, we automatically become time travelers. We do not change time and place on the physical level, but we do on the psychological level. Images and scenes that a patient experiences under hypnosis usually reflect exactly only what is stored in the cognitive subconscious. To use the example of a computer, this is like when we access a certain folder on our computer.


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[flofrog]

Very interesting thread.

because Carla and Jim were so interested in the work of hypnotist Michael Newton,  I feel like what tadeus said is so on target,

In the state of hypnosis, we automatically become  time travelers .

When you read the work of Michael Newton, it's interesting to see that often not so much importance is given to the physical filiation, I.e. parents, grandparents, genes... seen as more vertical in chronological time, as importance given to the relations with other entities of same generation as the entity incarnating, so the accent would be more of a horizontal view.

Not to reduce the importance of filial experiences, but still.  And I have read both in Q'uo and Ra, that there is a moment in the evolution of the physical entity, the influence of gene can be overridden.   It's interesting.    it might align too  with accepting, making peace,  after a while, with  the initial formatting of birth and childhood

[tadeus]

When you read the work of Michael Newton, it's interesting to see that often not so much importance is given to the physical filiation, I.e. parents, grandparents, genes... seen as more vertical in chronological time, as importance given to the relations with other entities of same generation as the entity incarnating, so the accent would be more of a horizontal view.

Do you have more informations about this, that you can quote here please?

This would be excellent stuff for a new thread.

[flofrog]

I just searched the Ra sessions and couldn't find it, so it's either in Q'uo , or I would have read it Michael Newton's work. It wouldn't be elsewhere as I remembered being struck by it and finding that it deeply resonated with my small mind.. It wouldn't be elsewhere as I am rather careful on the readings I am doing on all those subjects in the last years...

I shall search Q'uo but have to admit a I am not as good as searching Q'uo, I need some lessons here...

[flofrog]

Quincunx u are god

Well we all are but it’s nice to get confirmation:



on edit : Quincinx I didn't have te time before to read the Q'uo quote you offered. Now I just did.

I was not referring to this from Q'uo. What I remember clearly about the overriding of the gene format, was something I read either from Q'uo, Ra, or Michael Newton, but what I read was not about regression, but about the ability at some point to override the gene factor, for each entity.

it struck me because I never really attached importance to the gene factor, in my small case, but I could see in many posts here on the forums, how this was of importance to many members, and I just wanted to add this little piece of l information that it may be overridden. '

I shall keep searching where I read this, and now I wished I had filed it somewhere so I could retrieve it easily.

I still wonder though if it was not in Ra, because I remember thinking this is a 'reliable' information.


Thank you any way Quincunx.

[flofrog]

No no, I was posting on a passage I read about how at some point of evolution an entity can override the genetic format of physical birth, whether you would be a wanderer or not.

I remember reading this a year or two ago, and as this was also my intuition, I was struck to see this in writing.

[Aion]

No no, I was posting on a passage I read about how at some point of evolution an entity can override the genetic format of physical birth, whether you would be a wanderer or not.

I remember reading this a year or two ago, and as this was also my intuition,  I was struck to see this in writing.

This makes me think of this quote:

3.8 Questioner: How were the blocks moved?

Ra: I am Ra. You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion of your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your peoples, but little considered.

This energy is intelligent. It is hierarchical. Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within an hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell, or shape, or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock. When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical, rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock.

With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity.

In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to the cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance.

If instead of a rock, that which you communicate with is your own flesh and blood, your own genetic information, perhaps such effects can be achieved.

What is interesting to me is the reference to 'speaking to the intelligence', this emphasis on speech, and communication seems like a clue. Words are viewed by many mystics and occultists as having tremendous power. To 'cast a spell' invokes this idea of 'spelling out an idea'. The completion of the psychic cycle of manifestation from the invisible to the visible.

[AnthroHeart]

I believe I am a wanderer, possibly from the 8th dimension, 6th density.

I've done a lot of hard work. The spiritual magick comes more naturally I think being a wanderer.

I don't agree though with Ra saying it is not right to activate the higher density bodies while in incarnation.
I think we can be of service with those abilities as well.

[AnthroHeart]

I don't agree though with Ra saying it is not right to activate the higher density bodies while in incarnation.
I think we can be of service with those abilities as well.

I tiptoe around these words. The free will of others not just self.

I think Ra is careful because of how they were betrayed by the priests in ancient egypt.
People would become gods from pyramid initiation. But it was hoarded for the few.

As long as more people ascend to greatness, I don't see a purpose in restricting people.
Especially if you have greater ability to serve.

How does it violate others' free will?

[AnthroHeart]

I see what you mean.

I think everyone is gaining abilities as we head into ascension.

Makes sense on repeating 3D.

I'm working to be a master of my ego, but I don't trust my ego either fully.

[J.W.]

when there are metaphysics intertwined with philosophy.

This is what comes to mind whenever I see "claimant" of other worldly,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6OgUX1O...iottMainor

(we can magic with the capital "K" casting all day long, and astral beaming through the edge of space itself, but when standing in front of a crowd of people, is this not the usual outcome?...? although the theatrical chopsticks pointing and babbling casting is grade A one must say)

"Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."

I applaud to those who recognizes the "play" in the experiences, and do not feel the "pull" to be "identified" or laminate oneself further from the oneness,

All that comes after the " I am " has a root in some kind of distortion,

Then again, I could be just as dead wrong as any of us...