Magical work of negative beings in my room

[jafar]

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

Yes, but sometimes it's hard to generate such feeling towards 'them', as it need to be 'sincere'.
Especially with their 'weird' appearances and aggressive stance.
And also the sense of 'massive hatred and brutality' that we can somehow sense coming out from them, especially the 'negs bosses'.

It's easier to generate that towards the 'negs noobs' or 'lower ranked negs' and they can accept our 'love and compassion energy' as a mean or 'boost' to 'transform' themselves. But sometimes when they remember about 'their boss' and the 'punishment that awaits them' when they deviate from the boss command or the 'agreement' that they have with their boss, a surge of fear emotion that appear within themselves can cancel out the initial love energy that we sent to them.

This is usually the 'trigger' that made me say "Ok then.. take me to your boss!".
And that's why I said earlier on this thread that their ecosystem is similar to the "Mafia" or "Street Gangs".

While the boss is usually 'harder to be loved' (by us) than the noobs.. more brutal, angrier, scarier...
One trick that can be employed here is to think about anything that can make us generate that love energy, despite the condition. Thinking about our family, our parent, our pets, Jesus, Buddha, Holy Figure or anything that we love..

I found a video of how other people employ the same trick, he encountered an 'ancient negs' in some 'ancient temple'. Where in the past he has devoured negative energy coming from offerings of 'blood sacrifice'.
https://youtu.be/zVwv2UjNoZE?t=870

Thus you have nothing to fear on facing them...

Another point to mention here is: pos will never asked for anything for their help.
When an entity asked you to do anything let alone asked you to perform some blood sacrifice or weird ritual in order to get their help, no matter how nice and beautiful their appearances look like, or any name that they claimed about their identity (Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Angel whatever), for sure that's a neg.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

Yes, but sometimes it's hard to generate such feeling towards 'them', as it need to be 'sincere'.
Especially with their 'weird' appearances and aggressive stance.
And also the sense of 'massive hatred and brutality' that we can somehow sense coming out from them, especially the 'negs bosses'.

It's easier to generate that towards the 'negs noobs' or 'lower ranked negs' and they can accept our 'love and compassion energy' as a mean or 'boost' to 'transform' themselves. But sometimes when they remember about 'their boss' and the 'punishment that awaits them' when they deviate from the boss command or the 'agreement' that they have with their boss, a surge of fear emotion that appear within themselves can cancel out the initial love energy that we sent to them.

This is usually the 'trigger' that made me say "Ok then.. take me to your boss!".
And that's why I said earlier on this thread that their ecosystem is similar to the "Mafia" or "Street Gangs".

While the boss is usually 'harder to be loved' (by us) than the noobs.. more brutal, angrier, scarier...
One trick that can be employed here is to think about anything that can make us generate that love energy, despite the condition. Thinking about our family, our parent, our pets, Jesus, Buddha, Holy Figure or anything that we love..

I found a video of how other people employ the same trick, he encountered an 'ancient negs' in some 'ancient temple'. Where in the past he has devoured negative energy coming from offerings of 'blood sacrifice'.
https://youtu.be/zVwv2UjNoZE?t=870

Thus you have nothing to fear on facing them...

Another point to mention here is: pos will never asked for anything for their help.
When an entity asked you to do anything let alone asked you to perform some blood sacrifice or weird ritual in order to get their help, no matter how nice and beautiful their appearances look like, or any name that they claimed about their identity (Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Angel whatever), for sure that's a neg.

Would you tell me how to perform the LBRP? Thanks and the ritual to the Holy Qabalah cross and is there another ritual you could direct me to for help in clearing out an unused space but now I want to use it? I really don't do well with videos is you could write these things out in detail I would appreciate it. You seem to have decades or perhaps just loads of wisdom and I would like to extrapolate what I can from your ritualistic practices. Is there one that you do everyday or just when you study the Qabalah, Astrology or Tarot? Thank you!

[Sacred Fool]

One trick that can be employed here is to think about anything that can make us generate that love energy, despite the condition. Thinking about our family, our parent, our pets, Jesus, Buddha, Holy Figure or anything that we love..

I found a video of how other people employ the same trick, he encountered an 'ancient negs' in some 'ancient temple'. Where in the past he has devoured negative energy coming from offerings of 'blood sacrifice'.
https://youtu.be/zVwv2UjNoZE?t=870

So, you trick them to play on their weaknesses and they do the same to you until one loses the contest.  What's the point of this, pray tell?  After listening to your youtube recording, the only thing I see is that one or the other gets some ego satisfaction.  That's fine if that's what you really want, but you may end up finding yourself driving too close to a soft shoulder, slipping over the edge and realizing that you were exposing yourself to more hazards than you would have preferred to do in a less frisky moment.
    
I'm not trying to moralize here (some prefer to picnic in the light while some prefer to play in the shadows), just pointing to the obvious risk of playing in the dark with our dark fellows, especially when you're having to employ tricks to conjure your own sincerity. 
   

[flofrog]

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

This is so interesting Nau7ik, I never thought of that, love being felt like pain. Thank you....

[Dtris]

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

Yes, but sometimes it's hard to generate such feeling towards 'them', as it need to be 'sincere'.
Especially with their 'weird' appearances and aggressive stance.
And also the sense of 'massive hatred and brutality' that we can somehow sense coming out from them, especially the 'negs bosses'.

It's easier to generate that towards the 'negs noobs' or 'lower ranked negs' and they can accept our 'love and compassion energy' as a mean or 'boost' to 'transform' themselves. But sometimes when they remember about 'their boss' and the 'punishment that awaits them' when they deviate from the boss command or the 'agreement' that they have with their boss, a surge of fear emotion that appear within themselves can cancel out the initial love energy that we sent to them.

This is usually the 'trigger' that made me say "Ok then.. take me to your boss!".
And that's why I said earlier on this thread that their ecosystem is similar to the "Mafia" or "Street Gangs".

While the boss is usually 'harder to be loved' (by us) than the noobs.. more brutal, angrier, scarier...
One trick that can be employed here is to think about anything that can make us generate that love energy, despite the condition. Thinking about our family, our parent, our pets, Jesus, Buddha, Holy Figure or anything that we love..

I found a video of how other people employ the same trick, he encountered an 'ancient negs' in some 'ancient temple'. Where in the past he has devoured negative energy coming from offerings of 'blood sacrifice'.
https://youtu.be/zVwv2UjNoZE?t=870

Thus you have nothing to fear on facing them...

Another point to mention here is: pos will never asked for anything for their help.
When an entity asked you to do anything let alone asked you to perform some blood sacrifice or weird ritual in order to get their help, no matter how nice and beautiful their appearances look like, or any name that they claimed about their identity (Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Angel whatever), for sure that's a neg.

Would you tell me how to perform the LBRP? Thanks and the ritual to the Holy Qabalah cross and is there another ritual you could direct me to for help in clearing out an unused space but now I want to use it? I really don't do well with videos is you could write these things out in detail I would appreciate it. You seem to have decades or perhaps just loads of wisdom and I would like to extrapolate what I can from your ritualistic practices. Is there one that you do everyday or just when you study the Qabalah, Astrology or Tarot? Thank you!

There are literally dozens if not over a hundred books now with instructions on the ritual. My favorite is The Middle Pillar by Israel Regardie. You can buy the version with commentary by the Ciceros easily. If you would like a contemporary book I recommend Donald Michael Craig or John Michael Greer. You can also find written instructions with a google search but the books are better because they explain the purpose and uses and variations.

[jafar]

So, you trick them to play on their weaknesses and they do the same to you until one loses the contest.  What's the point of this, pray tell?  After listening to your youtube recording, the only thing I see is that one or the other gets some ego satisfaction.  That's fine if that's what you really want, but you may end up finding yourself driving too close to a soft shoulder, slipping over the edge and realizing that you were exposing yourself to more hazards than you would have preferred to do in a less frisky moment.
    
I'm not trying to moralize here (some prefer to picnic in the light while some prefer to play in the shadows), just pointing to the obvious risk of playing in the dark with our dark fellows, especially when you're having to employ tricks to conjure your own sincerity. 
   

First that was not 'my video', that video was recorded by a guy named Rick, sharing his own experience, which I barely know about in physical life. However his experience resonate well with me, as it correlate well with my own experience.

And it's in continuation to the topic of 'sending light/love energy' to the negs.
Where sometimes we faced challenges to do so, due to the circumstances.

The one that we 'trick' in this case is 'our own self', we think about positive things or beings that we love in order to increase our own vibration so it can build up enough love energy within us to be sent over to the negs.

And not all negs 'reject' such love energy, as I mentioned above, some 'noobs negs' can accept that energy and use it as a booster for their own transformation.

But the higher the 'negs' in the hierarchical structure, the more tendency it will have to 'reject' the love energy being sent, and when they 'reject', somehow it induced 'pain' within them.
I don't know why, the actual mechanism is not entirely clear to me.
That video by rick is an example of where such rejection occur and it causes 'pain' felt by the neg boss, in his case some ancient demon.

The other option is of course to 'fight the neg boss', which still an option albeit not the best option compared to sending love energy. I mentioned that option with main goal for Puya and others to not ever feel afraid of the negs upon encountering them.

My main point is this:
You are a powerful being, much more powerful than any negs, no matter what or who they're in their hierarchy.
There is no reason at all to be afraid of them let alone 'submit' to them.

Having said that there is always a risk of you transforming yourself to be 'negs' so don't chase the negs, don't torture the negs, don't conquer the negs, do not enslave the negs. Such opportunity is actually open for you but if you do so you will become 'neg' yourself. Try to help the negs as sincere as you can (without asking or expecting for anything in return, not even a gesture of thanks) because you and the negs are part of the same unified consciousness. What you do towards them you're doing it towards your own self.

Know the characteristic of 'negs' and also it's exact opposite the 'pos', so you can easily tell the difference, as 'negs' often disguise themselves to appear as a pos, but they can't have or show the characteristic of a pos. (utmost sincerity, humility, love, compassion etc..)

That's my recommendation, it's merely a recommendation not an order or a demand.
As becoming 'neg' yourself is still a valid path if one choose to do so.
As in the end all path, negs pos or anything in between will lead to the same destination.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

Yes, but sometimes it's hard to generate such feeling towards 'them', as it need to be 'sincere'.
Especially with their 'weird' appearances and aggressive stance.
And also the sense of 'massive hatred and brutality' that we can somehow sense coming out from them, especially the 'negs bosses'.

It's easier to generate that towards the 'negs noobs' or 'lower ranked negs' and they can accept our 'love and compassion energy' as a mean or 'boost' to 'transform' themselves. But sometimes when they remember about 'their boss' and the 'punishment that awaits them' when they deviate from the boss command or the 'agreement' that they have with their boss, a surge of fear emotion that appear within themselves can cancel out the initial love energy that we sent to them.

This is usually the 'trigger' that made me say "Ok then.. take me to your boss!".
And that's why I said earlier on this thread that their ecosystem is similar to the "Mafia" or "Street Gangs".

While the boss is usually 'harder to be loved' (by us) than the noobs.. more brutal, angrier, scarier...
One trick that can be employed here is to think about anything that can make us generate that love energy, despite the condition. Thinking about our family, our parent, our pets, Jesus, Buddha, Holy Figure or anything that we love..

I found a video of how other people employ the same trick, he encountered an 'ancient negs' in some 'ancient temple'. Where in the past he has devoured negative energy coming from offerings of 'blood sacrifice'.
https://youtu.be/zVwv2UjNoZE?t=870

Thus you have nothing to fear on facing them...

Another point to mention here is: pos will never asked for anything for their help.
When an entity asked you to do anything let alone asked you to perform some blood sacrifice or weird ritual in order to get their help, no matter how nice and beautiful their appearances look like, or any name that they claimed about their identity (Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, Angel whatever), for sure that's a neg.

Would you tell me how to perform the LBRP? Thanks and the ritual to the Holy Qabalah cross and is there another ritual you could direct me to for help in clearing out an unused space but now I want to use it? I really don't do well with videos is you could write these things out in detail I would appreciate it. You seem to have decades or perhaps just loads of wisdom and I would like to extrapolate what I can from your ritualistic practices. Is there one that you do everyday or just when you study the Qabalah, Astrology or Tarot? Thank you!

There are literally dozens if not over a hundred books now with instructions on the ritual. My favorite is The Middle Pillar by Israel Regardie. You can buy the version with commentary by the Ciceros easily. If you would like a contemporary book I recommend Donald Michael Craig or John Michael Greer. You can also find written instructions with a google search but the books are better because they explain the purpose and uses and variations.

Yes. I know . I study these spiritual teachings. And yes! All excellent books!!!

[jafar]

Would you tell me how to perform the LBRP? Thanks and the ritual to the Holy Qabalah cross and is there another ritual you could direct me to for help in clearing out an unused space but now I want to use it? I really don't do well with videos is you could write these things out in detail I would appreciate it. You seem to have decades or perhaps just loads of wisdom and I would like to extrapolate what I can from your ritualistic practices. Is there one that you do everyday or just when you study the Qabalah, Astrology or Tarot? Thank you!

I don't even know what LBRP is..
I'm not a ritualistic or practitioner or even try to study those kind of things that you mentioned.
Actually I was a skeptic initially, until I experienced it myself.
To me it just 'came'.

All the things that I shared here is based purely on my own experience.
And my current understanding, as of now, based on my own experience.
It might not be 100% correct, but this is my understanding as of now.

Space (and time) kind of work differently on those realm, we can teleport to any place.
As thus I believe 'they' can also do the same thing.
So far I tend to say that an 'attachment' is more towards being and not place.
Just like we have tendency to like or dislike certain person and so are they.

And we also have the capability to transform and influence some aspect on our environment, feel free to do any ritual that you choose, but the objective should be to lift up your own vibration. A simple prayer on any religion will also work as long as it will lift up your vibration. And so does the practice of meditation, yoga and qigong does help of strengthening your energy and lifting your vibration plus it will improve your physical health and mood as well. Choose which one suits you best, there's no 'best method' or 'lesser method' it all came down to the individual. And in any case this is not a 'race' or 'competition', only negs who think in those manner.

My advice is don't rely too much on the detail of ritual, I heard from an acquaintance of mine who studied into these kind of things that's usually the negs who paid much attention to the detail of 'complex ritual'. I haven't experienced it myself as I'm not interested in any ritual, so take this advice with a grain of salt.

Again don't be afraid of the negs, yet don't abuse them either.
When you're bullying a bully you will become a bully yourself.
Learn about them, their characteristic so you can differentiate and recognize easily.
If you did encountered them, try to help them if they asked, and always with utmost sincerity.

[BrotherInWaiting]

I wonder if there are spiritual warrior classes that are destined/required to perform this work, to keep others free without the need to develop the 'muscles' required for this activity, and so the others can stay 'clean' by not dirtying themselves with the negative energy of fighting.

Perhaps you can call on these warrior beings to assist, where you feel unable or unsure what to do...

Please tell us if anything new happens.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

I wonder if there are spiritual warrior classes that are destined/required to perform this work, to keep others free without the need to develop the 'muscles' required for this activity, and so the others can stay 'clean' by not dirtying themselves with the negative energy of fighting.

Perhaps you can call on these warrior beings to assist, where you feel unable or unsure what to do...

Please tell us if anything new happens.

Remember what Ra said about our guides? We can call on certain angels for protection.

[Puya]

You are right, I also think that it is definitely better to fight these beings than simply to submit and be afraid.

Yes and I deliberately share the story with you and others so you will never be afraid of them.
'Fighting' is not the best course of action but it's still an option.
And sometimes one just need to experience it in order to be really sure that they're not something to be afraid of.

As making you feel 'afraid' and 'fearful' is their objective.
That's why they usually choose such 'weird imagery and appearances' so you will be afraid.

I see them more as 'being with acute sense of insecurity and narcissistic syndrome'...
I now actually pity them.

No, I haven't tried to communicate, I somehow have the feeling that when i do that, a certain connection to these beings is established which (if you accidentally) contact a higher being, it does more harm than good, at least for me because I don't feel ready for that. But it's very interesting what you were able to find out and that's how I actually also imagine it.

Well if Law of One is correct, you're are already connected to them aren't you?
As there's no 'them' after all and only 'us'.

Connection is already there, that's why you can communicate with them and they can communicate with you, even without the help of any spoken language or in need of google translator. You can sense them and they can sense you.

What I recommend to be avoided is making an 'agreement' with the negs.
And 'submission' to them is among the worst form of 'agreement', at least from my perspective.

"There is no such thing as free lunch" is the #1 motto of the negs, as they're STS after all, a consciousness who are 'strongly attached' to their limited 'self', they think that they're separated from others and they always have the mindset of 'subdue others otherwise you will be subdued by others'.

Such characteristic can also easily be observed on the behavior of 'consciousness' within living human physical body.

The pos.. is the exact opposite of the negs... what they offered is totally free lunch.
They will be happy even by helping, as within their mindset when they're helping other 'self' they're actually helping their own 'self'. The results of awareness about the unity of all things. They will not ask for anything in return, not even a praise and they will be ok even when they're not being thanked for or being credited at all. And more often they're actually helping you without you ever realized that they're actually helping you, as they want to build the 'self confidence' in you.

In the words of Lao Tse:
"A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves!"
-- Tao The Ching

I realized that when my HS said "I'm more capable than he/she is on handling nasty beings".
My HS is actually helping me all along, behind the scene, he/she just say that to build my confidence.

So don't worry, and you can be assured that there's a whole troop of pos that is actually helping you behind the scene.

I also agree with you that one cannot die, dying in my description referred to the physical body. More precisely, I meant it would have ended my incarnation here.

A long time ago I actually had a dream that revealed the multiple layers of the body to me. In this dream I tried to kill a demon, but I could only destroy his "outer physical body", then he got up again in another body and laughed at me because I probably didn't know that I would have to kill him 11 times or so and it is almost impossible to completely destroy all bodies, because each body has to be destroyed in a different way.
In addition, even if I were able to do that, there is always the possibility that it will be put together again by other beings. So basically a thing of the impossibility to completely exterminate a being.

Yes that's true, and the same rule also apply to you. They can't kill you.

But when a 'neg boss' lost a fight (which they usually does when they fought with pos) it will weaken them and the hierarchy under him/her will start to fell apart. Which gives an ample of opportunity for those under the boss who really want to 'transform' to positive to do so.

It's like a 'slave' who witnessed how 'his master' is not invincible after all.
It will help them to find 'courage' to leave the bondage of slavery.

So when you fought 'neg boss' and they try to escape you, let them go, don't chase them or put more torment to them. As 'the neg boss' is actually another aspect of your own self, part of your own self. The best approach is actually to also transform the 'neg boss' but that is often very hard to do.

In fact, I think the choking wasn't an implant, it was real and it would have ended my incarnation. But I'm also pretty sure that these implants as you call them exist and that these implants also have a lot to do with fear. In addition to the implants, I think there is also the possibility of parasitic beings to be attached to one.

Yes they have many tricks to makes you feel afraid.. as mentioned above making you to be afraid is their objective.
The negs are 'parasitic' beings, but they can only consume your energy when your vibration is low, such as when you're afraid.

I think you've achieved an Out Of Body experience through meditation.
Thus when you realized that you're in 'such state', try to fly out.. leave your body, soar up high to the sky!
And then you will realize that you don't breathe at all, you don't need any air.
Thus the 'choking' implant will lose it's effectiveness...

I'm pretty sure that when you reach a certain vibration level, these parasites and implants become ineffective and fall off on their own. However, I also managed to remove them in meditation, but I had to repeat that several times, in meditation I reached where I suspected these things and then slowly pulled them out of me, which then usually revealed that a whole part of the body is contaminated with it and it has sometimes taken its roots deep, you always have to remove it carefully because if a part is left over it starts to grow again. In principle like weeds.

Yes continue to hone this skill, I see that you have the talent to serve others by being a 'healer'.
The implant is not on your physical body, but on your 'astral body' or 'ether body'.
Once you can do this, you can also help others to remove any 'implants' on their 'astral / ether body'.

I think it is exactly as you described it, the positive beings do not need any external energy / food because they have opened the chakras and the energy goes through them directly from the creator.
As far as I understand it, negative beings have closed / blocked the heart chakra and need energy from external sources to bridge / fill it.

Yes I think so too, so it's not the 'creator' who do not give them energy, but it's they're the one who choose to block it.
This is what I often tell the 'neg noobs' who wanted to 'transform', telling them that they will have everything that they need and they don't need to 'eat people' anymore. I got the terminology of 'eating people' from one of the 'neg noobs' actually.

In metaphor this is similar to you putting your cellphone into an 'airplane mode'.
It's not the service provider has no radio coverage to you, it is just you turned off the receiver module inside your cellphone.
And 'the negs' are often being indoctrinated that the service provider do not give their radio coverage to you, thus you better turned off the receiver module in your cellphone to save the battery life. And if you dare to come or contact the service provider they will issue you a huge amount of invoice because you have a huge amount of debt to your service provider. #guilt

This is so far my understanding....

I often contact my higher self and ask for help, but I have not yet established a direct connection, but I intend to do this in the future and also with my positive friends and helpers.
In any case, I find the experiences you have had very interesting and I am very curious how it will be for me when I build a stronger connection to my higher self and my positive friends and helpers.

Try it... just wish it... state your intention...
Your higher self is your most trusted person in the entire universe.
As according to Law of One your HS is actually you from 'the future'...

I've shared you my story how my HS seem to have the same 'taste' of humor and joke with me...

The first time that I met my HS on OBE, he/she appears to me in a form of a 'teenage girl'.
Totally out of my expectation, as I was expecting a bearded old man like Gandalf or Merlin.
I just freeze, stunned, speechless, and when she said "Well? do you have something to say? or ask?"
My reply was: "Do you want to hang out in a cafe or a mall sometime?"
As what else is there to be said to a teenage girl right?
And her reply was "Great! It's a date then!".

Like I said.. the same 'taste' of humor and joke with me..

Yes and I deliberately share the story with you and others so you will never be afraid of them.
'Fighting' is not the best course of action but it's still an option.
And sometimes one just need to experience it in order to be really sure that they're not something to be afraid of.

i think it was very good that you told this story because it is indeed an important option and a better one than simply giving up. I never considered "fighting" because I always thought the only way was to accept and love. The realization that fighting is also a possibility helped me a lot and opens up many new options for me.

Well if Law of One is correct, you're are already connected to them aren't you?
As there's no 'them' after all and only 'us'.

Yes, I fully agree with you, we are all one and the connection has always been there. I will consider communicating next time, because as you say there is nothing to be afraid of.

I think you've achieved an Out Of Body experience through meditation.

I don't think it was an out of body experience, i woud say it was just in meditation. But I haven't really tried or thought of it as an out of body expierence, mabey you are right and i should try it out.

Yes continue to hone this skill, I see that you have the talent to serve others by being a 'healer'.
The implant is not on your physical body, but on your 'astral body' or 'ether body'.
Once you can do this, you can also help others to remove any 'implants' on their 'astral / ether body'.

I haven't done it that often, but I've noticed that you don't have to use your own hands, but create new "ghost hands" that can do what you want or you can create a whole being out of yourself which helps one in this procedure.

After this you feel much calmer and clearer, lighter in your head, as if you had thrown ballast away or something that drains your energie.

This is what I often tell the 'neg noobs' who wanted to 'transform', telling them that they will have everything that they need and they don't need to 'eat people' anymore.

I think this is a very good approach, I would also tell them that afterwards they are no longer slaves, but free and that as positive beings they can be who they really are and do not have to live a life full of fear, horror and punishment.

I would also invite the beings to join your meditation so that you can feel the Creator together.

I also think that afterwards there is still the possibility that the transformed being will become a target of attack by other negative beings or by their old bosses. Therefore, I think it is necessary to get in contact with the newly transformed beings more often in order to protect them or to help them. Then they notice that you really meant it and that you care about them.

In order to truly transform a being, I think it has to be completely filled with love. You can give this love from yourself or by becoming a channel for the love and the light of the Creator, which shines through you to the place or being you think is right.

But as I said, I only did it once, but it worked there.

And 'the negs' are often being indoctrinated that the service provider do not give their radio coverage to you, thus you better turned off the receiver module in your cellphone to save the battery life. And if you dare to come or contact the service provider they will issue you a huge amount of invoice because you have a huge amount of debt to your service provider. #guilt

That makes sense, I could well imagine that the lower negative beings are afraid of "punishment" and therefore stay on their way and try everything to stay there so that they don't have to pay the bill.

I also think that there are many lower negative beings who know nothing but the negative path and the darkness because they were born / created into it and some of them maybe never saw the light or felt the love.

With higher negative beings, however, I think that they are consciously on this path and know exactly what they are doing.


Thank you very much Jafar for your detailed posts, they are really very interesting and very helpful!!

[Puya]

Do you perform protective rituals before spiritual and meditational work? Your place of working is like a holy place and should be treated as such. The doors and windows of your room and house act as natural barriers which keep astral entities out. In the astral realm, your door or window is not physical but it acts like a barrier, it cannot be crossed without your permission (maybe it can be breached but that would take a high level of magical skill, I presume.)

So I am thinking someone gave this entity permission, likely unknowingly.

Performing a protective ritual daily before you start your work will build up protective energy which purifies yourself and the area of working. It truly becomes a holy place which a negative entity will not be able to tolerate. (He will simply flee and not go there.)

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

Do you perform protective rituals before spiritual and meditational work?

no, I've actually never done that before, especially since I've only meditated very irregularly so far, but in the future I will incorporate appropriate rituals and routines.

So I am thinking someone gave this entity permission, likely unknowingly.

yes i think so too, i'm very sure that i unconsciously gave permission for this

Also I just wanted to say... to a negative lower astral entity, your deliberate sending of love is like an attack to them. They don’t feel love like you and I do. They feel it as pain because the Light is denied by them. Command it to leave in a resolute tone, if you experience resistance, ask it in the name of Christ to leave.

I am very sure that as you say negative beings perceive the sending of love as an attack. However, I do not think that they will feel it as pain.
Depending on how experienced the negative being is, it will react differently to the sending of love.
Most of the time i think they will react with hatred and anger because love weakens their negative polarity or they flee.

But maybe they let some love into them and then feel that it is good for them and then want more of it. I think this is especially true for lower negative beings who may have never been loved and know nothing but darkness.

For such lower beings, sending love could be something new, something unknown, they might not even take it as an attack but just don't know what is happening.

[meadow-foreigner]

This thread and what is said of negative entities reminds me of 2018 She-Ra's Catra character. A Horde (basically an STS structure) soldier, who maybe overdid it a little too much. Abandoned and hurt, she refused help or "love" as it provoked/induced thoughts of pain in her. There was redemption for her, though, as there is for anyone. A very interesting watch, no doubt. Illustrates and conveys lots of spiritual concepts throughout the show.

[jafar]

I wonder if there are spiritual warrior classes that are destined/required to perform this work, to keep others free without the need to develop the 'muscles' required for this activity, and so the others can stay 'clean' by not dirtying themselves with the negative energy of fighting.

Perhaps you can call on these warrior beings to assist, where you feel unable or unsure what to do...

Well it actually require more of 'heart' development rather than 'muscles'.
The experience makes me realize that the 'challenge' for STO is 'how much loving can you go'.

When you're able to love the negs as if they were part of your own self, especially the 'negs boss' or 'negs boss's boss', then loving anyone on your physical world will be a 'piece of cake'. Anyone including your rival, your enemy, your competitor, your cheating ex-girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, the person who mugged you, scammed you etc.. As compared to the negs bosses, they are still relatively much more kinder, loving and compassionate, they're 'angel' when compared to the 'negs bosses'. This is because you've 'met' somebody or in this case some 'figure' who are far far worse on the ego-centricity, hatred, fear, anger spectrum and you're able to love them as well.

The flip side of this is, the 'negs' are actually your 'trainer', your 'sparring partner' to push your capability of 'how much loving can you go'.

Having said that, I just sense that the pos were 'always there for you', especially the higher self.
But the way they help is in the manner that's being told by Lao Tse above, behind the scene.
The pos are very sincere beings, the exact opposite of negs. Not looking for 'being credited' or 'praised', they helped you in such manner as thus you can build your own confidence and then say "I did it myself!".

When 'some figure' does appear and help you on your problem with negs and then ask you for 'something in return' (whatever it is, your praise, your submission, any form of sacrifice or weird ritual from your part). You better be suspicious about 'such figure'. As it's common that negs does hate other negs, and battle / fight between negs group is a common place.

We can also observe the same phenomenon on physical world, the phenomenon gives birth to the idiom of "Escaping the lion's mouth and jumped into the mouth of an alligator". Escaping a mafia and fall into the hands of another mafia.

[jafar]

I don't think it was an out of body experience, i woud say it was just in meditation. But I haven't really tried or thought of it as an out of body expierence, mabey you are right and i should try it out.

If you 'see' them, 'hear' them you are not seeing them or hearing them or even sensing them with your physical instruments, or your physical senses. You are sensing them with your 'non-physical' senses which is not on your physical body. It might be 'attached' to your physical body like an overlay, and it can actually 'go out' as well.
You should try it and see whether it works.
Having said that I read somewhere that the symptom of 'paralysis' is a common occurrence of 'transition mode', the transition of your consciousness focusing on your physical senses to focusing on your non-physical senses.

I haven't done it that often, but I've noticed that you don't have to use your own hands, but create new "ghost hands" that can do what you want or you can create a whole being out of yourself which helps one in this procedure.

After this you feel much calmer and clearer, lighter in your head, as if you had thrown ballast away or something that drains your energie.

Yes it's very much possible, what you imagined will be realized.
The same mechanism works in 'fighting' mode as I mentioned earlier, the 'hands' can be used to "slap" the negs too if you wish. While your physical hands will *not* work with the same effects to the negs. But your 'imagery' hands might, people often still use their physical hands in order to help them visualize / imagine better, but it's the 'imagery hands' that do the work.

I also think that afterwards there is still the possibility that the transformed being will become a target of attack by other negative beings or by their old bosses. Therefore, I think it is necessary to get in contact with the newly transformed beings more often in order to protect them or to help them. Then they notice that you really meant it and that you care about them.

In order to truly transform a being, I think it has to be completely filled with love. You can give this love from yourself or by becoming a channel for the love and the light of the Creator, which shines through you to the place or being you think is right.

Thanks for the tips.

And you're right that the 'noobs' might be susceptible to 'attack' by their ex-bosses or other negs, if they stay.

That's why I usually advice them to 'migrate', telling them that if they don't like this realm there are many other much beautiful realms that they can go to, the way to achieve that is asking them to 'let go' of all the negativity / sadness / guilt / anger that they are holding on right now, telling them that it actually doesn't  matter at all, it's ok for them to just let it go.

In similitude this is similar to telling North Koreans, that if you don't like this country there are many other countries that's better than this. Don't believe what Uncle Kim said about you don't have any other options, it's Uncle Kim who need you and not you need him. You can leave North Korea if you wish so and ready to let go of whatever you have here in North Korea (land, houses, property whatever). But sometimes it's the land, houses and property or even family in North Korea that act as a hindrance for them to migrate, in "Bodhi's term" it's called an 'attachment'.

They will also have doubts whether the 'other countries' will accept them as Uncle Kim has indoctrinized them that the 'other countries' hate them and will punish them or they will suffer in 'other countries'. And you can answer them with other countries will accept you, they will not torture you as 'torture' do not exist in their dictionary, infact they have set up an organized body designed to help you. Here I give you the hotline number, feel free to call this number for help.

I also think that there are many lower negative beings who know nothing but the negative path and the darkness because they were born / created into it and some of them maybe never saw the light or felt the love.

Yes, every negs, especially lower negs have their own story to tell, and they're happy to find somebody who sincerely wanted to listen to them. That's why I do recommend that you that interact with them, ask them questions.

Just make sure that you use the right 'service provider' on communicating with them, choose AT&T (Advanced Telepathy & Telesensing) they do have coverage on the astrals or any other realm, and they never issue you any monthly invoice for their services. You already have AT&T SimCard within you, it came bundled with your body, so you're already on their network whether you realized it or not.

Sometimes I can sense that some of the negs are used to be 'human'.
That's why I often just bluntly asked them "When did you die?"
I tend to see the trend that 'negs noobs' died 'recently', 2005, 2007, 2010, 2013 around that range.
And that's 'recent' given negs bosses usually has been there for hundreds if not thousand of years.

One of them that's so touching to me, is a girl, died at 13 years old of age due to traffic accident.
She was asleep on a car and surprised to wake up alone in a 'strange environment', after wondering for a while in confusion she was 'captured' by her boss. I asked her "Why did you eat me? Am I your favorite food?" which she replied "I don't want to eat you, my boss told me so, my favorite food was fried noodles! but I can't eat that anymore, now I eat people".

I personally don't understand why such thing can even happened.

With higher negative beings, however, I think that they are consciously on this path and know exactly what they are doing.

Yeah, just like Kim Jong Un on North Korea's metaphor...
That's my 'challenge' or 'boundary' of 'how loving can I go', as of now I just can't love those kind of 'bastards', excuse my language, I mean the 'negs bosses'...
That's why I'm amazed with your capability to love the 'negs bosses'...

Thank you very much Jafar for your detailed posts, they are really very interesting and very helpful!!

You're welcomed, I'm glad to give any help that I can give to you.
What you're doing is amazing and wonderful, something that I cannot do, at least now.

Just remember never ever submit to the negs, you're more powerful than they are.
And remember not to fall into the trap of 'fear', 'pride' and 'greed', as those can turn / transformed you to become 'negs' yourself.

[Puya]

I don't think it was an out of body experience, i woud say it was just in meditation. But I haven't really tried or thought of it as an out of body expierence, mabey you are right and i should try it out.

If you 'see' them, 'hear' them you are not seeing them or hearing them or even sensing them with your physical instruments, or your physical senses. You are sensing them with your 'non-physical' senses which is not on your physical body. It might be 'attached' to your physical body like an overlay, and it can actually 'go out' as well.
You should try it and see whether it works.
Having said that I read somewhere that the symptom of 'paralysis' is a common occurrence of 'transition mode', the transition of your consciousness focusing on your physical senses to focusing on your non-physical senses.

I haven't done it that often, but I've noticed that you don't have to use your own hands, but create new "ghost hands" that can do what you want or you can create a whole being out of yourself which helps one in this procedure.

After this you feel much calmer and clearer, lighter in your head, as if you had thrown ballast away or something that drains your energie.

Yes it's very much possible, what you imagined will be realized.
The same mechanism works in 'fighting' mode as I mentioned earlier, the 'hands' can be used to "slap" the negs too if you wish. While your physical hands will *not* work with the same effects to the negs. But your 'imagery' hands might, people often still use their physical hands in order to help them visualize / imagine better, but it's the 'imagery hands' that do the work.

I also think that afterwards there is still the possibility that the transformed being will become a target of attack by other negative beings or by their old bosses. Therefore, I think it is necessary to get in contact with the newly transformed beings more often in order to protect them or to help them. Then they notice that you really meant it and that you care about them.

In order to truly transform a being, I think it has to be completely filled with love. You can give this love from yourself or by becoming a channel for the love and the light of the Creator, which shines through you to the place or being you think is right.

Thanks for the tips.

And you're right that the 'noobs' might be susceptible to 'attack' by their ex-bosses or other negs, if they stay.

That's why I usually advice them to 'migrate', telling them that if they don't like this realm there are many other much beautiful realms that they can go to, the way to achieve that is asking them to 'let go' of all the negativity / sadness / guilt / anger that they are holding on right now, telling them that it actually doesn't  matter at all, it's ok for them to just let it go.

In similitude this is similar to telling North Koreans, that if you don't like this country there are many other countries that's better than this. Don't believe what Uncle Kim said about you don't have any other options, it's Uncle Kim who need you and not you need him. You can leave North Korea if you wish so and ready to let go of whatever you have here in North Korea (land, houses, property whatever). But sometimes it's the land, houses and property or even family in North Korea that act as a hindrance for them to migrate, in "Bodhi's term" it's called an 'attachment'.

They will also have doubts whether the 'other countries' will accept them as Uncle Kim has indoctrinized them that the 'other countries' hate them and will punish them or they will suffer in 'other countries'. And you can answer them with other countries will accept you, they will not torture you as 'torture' do not exist in their dictionary, infact they have set up an organized body designed to help you. Here I give you the hotline number, feel free to call this number for help.

I also think that there are many lower negative beings who know nothing but the negative path and the darkness because they were born / created into it and some of them maybe never saw the light or felt the love.

Yes, every negs, especially lower negs have their own story to tell, and they're happy to find somebody who sincerely wanted to listen to them. That's why I do recommend that you that interact with them, ask them questions.

Just make sure that you use the right 'service provider' on communicating with them, choose AT&T (Advanced Telepathy & Telesensing) they do have coverage on the astrals or any other realm, and they never issue you any monthly invoice for their services. You already have AT&T SimCard within you, it came bundled with your body, so you're already on their network whether you realized it or not.

Sometimes I can sense that some of the negs are used to be 'human'.
That's why I often just bluntly asked them "When did you die?"
I tend to see the trend that 'negs noobs' died 'recently', 2005, 2007, 2010, 2013 around that range.
And that's 'recent' given negs bosses usually has been there for hundreds if not thousand of years.

One of them that's so touching to me, is a girl, died at 13 years old of age due to traffic accident.
She was asleep on a car and surprised to wake up alone in a 'strange environment', after wondering for a while in confusion she was 'captured' by her boss. I asked her "Why did you eat me? Am I your favorite food?" which she replied "I don't want to eat you, my boss told me so, my favorite food was fried noodles! but I can't eat that anymore, now I eat people".

I personally don't understand why such thing can even happened.

With higher negative beings, however, I think that they are consciously on this path and know exactly what they are doing.

Yeah, just like Kim Jong Un on North Korea's metaphor...
That's my 'challenge' or 'boundary' of 'how loving can I go', as of now I just can't love those kind of 'bastards', excuse my language, I mean the 'negs bosses'...
That's why I'm amazed with your capability to love the 'negs bosses'...

Thank you very much Jafar for your detailed posts, they are really very interesting and very helpful!!

You're welcomed, I'm glad to give any help that I can give to you.
What you're doing is amazing and wonderful, something that I cannot do, at least now.

Just remember never ever submit to the negs, you're more powerful than they are.
And remember not to fall into the trap of 'fear', 'pride' and 'greed', as those can turn / transformed you to become 'negs' yourself.

If you 'see' them, 'hear' them you are not seeing them or hearing them or even sensing them with your physical instruments, or your physical senses. You are sensing them with your 'non-physical' senses which is not on your physical body. It might be 'attached' to your physical body like an overlay, and it can actually 'go out' as well.
You should try it and see whether it works.
Having said that I read somewhere that the symptom of 'paralysis' is a common occurrence of 'transition mode', the transition of your consciousness focusing on your physical senses to focusing on your non-physical senses.

I mixed up something here, I thought you meant that in relation to my meditation on removing implants.

Regarding the dream or sleep paralyze with the negative beings, here I also think that it could have been an out of body experience like you described it.

Yes, every negs, especially lower negs have their own story to tell, and they're happy to find somebody who sincerely wanted to listen to them. That's why I do recommend that you that interact with them, ask them questions.

Just make sure that you use the right 'service provider' on communicating with them, choose AT&T (Advanced Telepathy & Telesensing) they do have coverage on the astrals or any other realm, and they never issue you any monthly invoice for their services. You already have AT&T SimCard within you, it came bundled with your body, so you're already on their network whether you realized it or not.

I'll try that next time, I think you're right and it's very beneficial.

One of them that's so touching to me, is a girl, died at 13 years old of age due to traffic accident.
She was asleep on a car and surprised to wake up alone in a 'strange environment', after wondering for a while in confusion she was 'captured' by her boss. I asked her "Why did you eat me? Am I your favorite food?" which she replied "I don't want to eat you, my boss told me so, my favorite food was fried noodles! but I can't eat that anymore, now I eat people".

I personally don't understand why such thing can even happened.

Maybe it wasn't really her but part of her. Just as the physical body has lagged, another of the many bodies we have may have lagged behind due to sudden, unexpected death.

Yeah, just like Kim Jong Un on North Korea's metaphor...
That's my 'challenge' or 'boundary' of 'how loving can I go', as of now I just can't love those kind of 'bastards', excuse my language, I mean the 'negs bosses'...
That's why I'm amazed with your capability to love the 'negs bosses'...

At the beginning, I sent the negative boss from my dream / sleep paralisis rather subconsciously this love. In the end I decided, as I wrote, to be "afraid" of him because I was convinced that if I continued to love him, he would transform positively, but this beeing would kill my physical body.
(So ​​not that I am dying as a whole, but that my incarnation in 3rd density would have been ended.)
So it would have been a kind of exchange, which I was not ready to make. Therefore, I think loving higher negative beings will have consequences because it hurts their free will and in return they maybe also allowed to hurt your free will.

I think it is therefore better to simply let free the "slaves" of the higher negative beings and to ensure that you have a positive influence on everyone you meet, be it people, animals or other beings. I believe this is one of the few ways to transform higher negative beings, by removing their power and control over others.

[jafar]

Maybe it wasn't really her but part of her. Just as the physical body has lagged, another of the many bodies we have may have lagged behind due to sudden, unexpected death.

Since everything is merely an 'identity', the statement of 'her' or 'part of her' might be hard to be defined.
That part of her is also part of me and you as well..
In either case, such is the trigger which usually makes me to 'confront' the negs bosses.

Negs in general are those who do not view the other 'self' as part of their own 'self'.
Which gives birth to the sense of competing, conquering, enslaving, being the 'uber alles', superior over others.
Which explain the hierarchical nature of negs and also the nature on why negs also hate other negs...

At the beginning, I sent the negative boss from my dream / sleep paralisis rather subconsciously this love. In the end I decided, as I wrote, to be "afraid" of him because I was convinced that if I continued to love him, he would transform positively, but this beeing would kill my physical body.
(So not that I am dying as a whole, but that my incarnation in 3rd density would have been ended.)
So it would have been a kind of exchange, which I was not ready to make. Therefore,  I think loving higher negative beings will have consequences because it hurts their free will and in return they maybe also allowed to hurt your free will.

Killing your physical presence / body might not be their actual objective, as you can be the their 'food source'.
Making you think that they could kill you, which induces / stimulate fear emotion as a response from you is their actual objective. When you're in fear, your vibration become low and it's perfect condition to 'consume' your low vibrational energy, which is their food.

And it seems the 'negs' will not transform positively unless they're, out of their own free will, wanted to do so.
As discussed above, some negs / especially the 'veteran' negs will perceive your 'love' energy as a 'threat' to them, they perceive your love energy as 'pain' when you send it out to them. Thus the saying "love is the greatest weapon" is true...

I think it is therefore better to simply let free the "slaves" of the higher negative beings and to ensure that you have a positive influence on everyone you meet, be it people, animals or other beings. I believe this is one of the few ways to transform higher negative beings, by removing their power and control over others.

Yes, nonetheless the offer should be made to all, and actually it's always open to all.

I think you will progress to 'enhance' your capability.
Just to be mindful that you will eventually realized that you have an option to not 'letting free' of the negs, but conquer the 'negs' to serve you or your own personal interest. If you do that you will act in the same manner as 'negs bosses', you have become a 'neg boss' yourselves.
My recommendation is not to do that.. for whatever reasons...

[zedro]

Killing your physical presence / body might not be their actual objective, as you can be the their 'food source'.
Making you think that they could kill you, which induces / stimulate fear emotion as a response from you is their actual objective. When you're in fear, your vibration become low and it's perfect condition to 'consume' your low vibrational energy, which is their food.

To add, it may not even be fear (although it is probably the tastiest treat), but just your attention in general (which can be many modalities, referencing the different energy centers). It takes energy put into the contact to extract energy from you, so if you achieve and maintain a state of non reactiveness, it becomes a losing proposition as more energy is expended than is extracted from the attack (hence some depolarization).

Think of it like having a bully, they want you to fight, to react, to feel shame, to be scared. But once you are nonchalant to them, they have no more power over you, and their actions become foolish and counterproductive to their egos. Maybe they can see the error in their ways, but that is up to them, and whether you are part of their catalyst for change is a matter of destiny, I would not make it your mission. Love is your defense, how it affects your attacker is not up to you.

[jafar]

Think of it like having a bully, they want you to fight, to react, to feel shame, to be scared. But once you are nonchalant to them, they have no more power over you, and their actions become foolish and counterproductive to their egos. Maybe they can see the error in their ways, but that is up to them, and whether you are part of their catalyst for change is a matter of destiny, I would not make it your mission. Love is your defense, how it affects your attacker is not up to you.

Great analogy, a bully, just to add that making others to 'submit' to them is among their objective.
As it enable the bully to come again and again and again asking for a 'tribute'.

[Puya]

Killing your physical presence / body might not be their actual objective, as you can be the their 'food source'.
Making you think that they could kill you, which induces / stimulate fear emotion as a response from you is their actual objective. When you're in fear, your vibration become low and it's perfect condition to 'consume' your low vibrational energy, which is their food.

And it seems the 'negs' will not transform positively unless they're, out of their own free will, wanted to do so.
As discussed above, some negs / especially the 'veteran' negs will perceive your 'love' energy as a 'threat' to them, they perceive your love energy as 'pain' when you send it out to them. Thus the saying "love is the greatest weapon" is true...

To add, it may not even be fear (although it is probably the tastiest treat), but just your attention in general (which can be many modalities, referencing the different energy centers). It takes energy put into the contact to extract energy from you, so if you achieve and maintain a state of non reactiveness, it becomes a losing proposition as more energy is expended than is extracted from the attack (hence some depolarization).

Think of it like having a bully, they want you to fight, to react, to feel shame, to be scared. But once you are nonchalant to them, they have no more power over you, and their actions become foolish and counterproductive to their egos. Maybe they can see the error in their ways, but that is up to them, and whether you are part of their catalyst for change is a matter of destiny, I would not make it your mission. Love is your defense, how it affects your attacker is not up to you.

yes I could very well imagine it that it was only about getting scared or just strengthening the contact with me and attracting my attention, like a bully. I haven't looked at it from this perspective, but it makes a lot of sense and gives me now a better understanding.

Yes, nonetheless the offer should be made to all, and actually it's always open to all.

I think you will progress to 'enhance' your capability.
Just to be mindful that you will eventually realized that you have an option to not 'letting free' of the negs, but conquer the 'negs' to serve you or your own personal interest. If you do that you will act in the same manner as 'negs bosses', you have become a 'neg boss' yourselves.
My recommendation is not to do that.. for whatever reasons...

Yes, I am aware of that, I have no intention of doing anything like that, because then, as you have already said, one would be just like the negative ones.

[unity100]

Freshly cut, sharp-smelling garlic. Placed in a small plate in the environment, while also eaten with a bread or some other companion without cooking. Pretty effective.

You shouldnt eat them if you have any particular allergy or condition though.

Also leaving artificial lights on while sleeping is very effective. It hampers any kind of contact.

[meadow-foreigner]

Freshly cut, sharp-smelling garlic. Placed in a small plate in the environment, while also eaten with a bread or some other companion without cooking. Pretty effective.

You shouldnt eat them if you have any particular allergy or condition though.

Also leaving artificial lights on while sleeping is very effective. It hampers any kind of contact.

In addition to this, one could be more aware of the indirect etheric effects that 4D entities exert through indirect measurements, much like magnetism is measured indirectly in 3D.

So, a dim light level also works fairly well for the detection of etheric movements in any given place.

Also, I believe it's worth mentioning that 4D entities also have a temper, and even majorly polarized entities can get into negative emotional states: the second season of The Legend of Korra shows very neatly these spiritual dynamics, and also the etheric world. A recommended watch for anyone interested in spirituality.