Does anyone here have psychic/PSI-abilites?

[KaliSouth]

I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

Yes, it is amazing. I cannot see the molecules that make up solid objects, but the "air" that surrounds us looks grainy to me. I suppose everything is made up of atoms anyway so this knowledge manifests for each of us seekers differently.

I can't see beings around me yet, but lately my spirit guides have made their presence known to me via intuition- suddenly a thought or a feeling will just pop up from nowhere. Once they woke me up in the very early hours of the morning to look at my alarm clock. They communicate with me using numbers, so when I woke up for real a few hours later I had a chance to look up the meaning of the message.

A few weeks ago I was in a second-hand bookshop browsing the esoteric section and they brought my attention to a particular book, which I then purchased. It was like they were saying intuitively "this book will tell you who we are". I think this is "claircognisance". I don't know if that it psychic. Maybe it is.

It's such an amazing process to be going through.

[KaliSouth]

I'm not psychic but I can sense a person's or group's energy. It can be exhausting.

I'd say that's along the lines of psychic empathy.

Really?! That’s interesting to know. I was wondering what it would be like to be able to actually read energy. At the moment I feel it and most of it (energy from other people who are engulfed in 3D emotional immaturity) repulses me. I’m trying very hard not to judge other-selves.

That's understandably difficult, especially if people are putting off emotions that you find very unpleasant. There are a couple ways that might alleviate it, in my experience.
One is trying to get more in touch with those emotions within yourself that repulse you, this can often lessen the impact from others. There is a notion in various healing modalities that when someone emotionally or energetically affects us it is amplifying some corresponding part of ourselves. Hence why compassion, understanding and love can be powerful 'protections' in the sense that if you are holding those things deep within yourself it unseats some of their opposite emotions which might be agitated by the added energy of others.
Another approach is transmutation, which is admittedly aided if you do the previous approach as well. This means receiving those unpleasant emotions and then trying to rise them up in to higher states. Some people can do this naturally, others might use techniques, but if successful it can sometimes lead to healing experiences for both individuals. It is not always easy though, some people have very strong emotions that are not at all easily shifted.

Nobody lives in a closed system. We are all connected to each other and to the planet. We all gotta get used to it one way or another.

Compassion, understanding and love... I like that.

[AnthroHeart]

I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

Yes, it is amazing. I cannot see the molecules that make up solid objects, but the "air" that surrounds us looks grainy to me. I suppose everything is made up of atoms anyway so this knowledge manifests for each of us seekers differently.

I can't see beings around me yet, but lately my spirit guides have made their presence known to me via intuition- suddenly a thought or a feeling will just pop up from nowhere. Once they woke me up in the very early hours of the morning to look at my alarm clock. They communicate with me using numbers, so when I woke up for real a few hours later I had a chance to look up the meaning of the message.

A few weeks ago I was in a second-hand bookshop browsing the esoteric section and they brought my attention to a particular book, which I then purchased. It was like they were saying intuitively "this book will tell you who we are". I think this is "claircognisance". I don't know if that it psychic. Maybe it is.

It's such an amazing process to be going through.

The grainy look could be a condition called Visual Snow.

[Patrick]

Visual Snow is just like Tinnitus. Science has absolutely no framework to explain those observations. I know that my Ear Tones are contextual and a spiritual phenomenon. So it's probably the same thing for Visual Snow.

[KaliSouth]

Visual Snow is just like Tinnitus. Science has absolutely no framework to explain those observations. I know that my Ear Tones are contextual and a spiritual phenomenon. So it's probably the same thing for Visual Snow.

Both of those things are probably present with other physical symptoms, so your Ear Tones are probably something to be proud of (or they would have driven you crazy by now).

[Aion]

I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

Yes, it is amazing. I cannot see the molecules that make up solid objects, but the "air" that surrounds us looks grainy to me. I suppose everything is made up of atoms anyway so this knowledge manifests for each of us seekers differently.

I can't see beings around me yet, but lately my spirit guides have made their presence known to me via intuition- suddenly a thought or a feeling will just pop up from nowhere. Once they woke me up in the very early hours of the morning to look at my alarm clock. They communicate with me using numbers, so when I woke up for real a few hours later I had a chance to look up the meaning of the message.

A few weeks ago I was in a second-hand bookshop browsing the esoteric section and they brought my attention to a particular book, which I then purchased. It was like they were saying intuitively "this book will tell you who we are". I think this is "claircognisance". I don't know if that it psychic. Maybe it is.

It's such an amazing process to be going through.

The grainy look could be a condition called Visual Snow.

That's not really what it looks like for me, it's much more subtle than that. It doesn't block out or interfere with vision at all.

It's more like when you can see heat coming off of concrete but without distortion or warping.

[Wanderer Seven]

title is the question. would  be really interesting to know. also were you born with them or did you develop them trough training? how long did it take?

I have some psi ability and apparently was born that way. The first strong event that happened was a warning of danger when I was a child.

I have had precognition events throughout my life, experienced telepathy with extraterrestrial intelligences and even was 'accosted' by a redwood tree in need of a favor, when in an altered state of consciousness that opened me up more than the usual. See my post in wanderer stories for an waking out-of-body experience.

I have the iPhone app, "ESP Trainer" and depending on where I am in my 18 day cycle, I always do far better than 25% expected by chance. On average I would estimate that I run about 35-40% but it varies. Sometimes I hit 75% ... These types of tests are not very reliable in general. It's hard to keep focused. A tendency is to do real well for the first 5-10 minutes then you get fatigued or bored and decline.

I will post more examples of some of my psi experiences if you want. I am running out of time...

In love and light!

[MineralWater]

Well i do not know,

I also possed the ability as some wanderers before me the act of intuitivly knowing,

However these where just modeles of behaviour i came in contact it,

And i am likly to do magical thinking what does that mean for me is:
That i coeralite reality with my acutual existence and there for my act of thinking, can it influence reality,
And to my own suprise it could,
But i became very abstract of my suroundings not believing anybody,
but only my own judgment of what is right,
And therefore waged war against many minds,
Only the align at some point,
when i met the Law of One,

And i stopped waging war against my own thoughts,
it gave me to much trouble to cooperated with other,

I became one out of many,
With actualy no more thoughts because they could produce to much angsity within me.

I just gave myself up to others and find no more need in trying to influence reality,

I just trye to enjoy being now,

And leave everybody open to make there one judgments,

I just wish i could do more for the world,
But only to figure out that i became to powerfull in my own perceptions of reality,

And have to do some penance for my act of thinking harmfuly to achieve control,

And how i knew i became enlighted is because i asked for grace of the universe,
And i asked can you make it rain only above my head, and can my friend pick me up,
Who happend to be bye accident at the same place without he knowing, while i knew.

But only believers would trust shuch a tale, but in my humble honesty this is what happend.
And the dolling of my mind in sillence was not fun.

But i saw it as necerary proces, because i might bye accident found a power within the universe,
which i refuse to use for control.

Much love

[flofrog]

I don’t know why but I feel I have read this above post before

[dexter101]

I must observe that I am very surprised.  Very often I see people on these forums who speak with such supreme authority about what the LOO means or what this or that means.  I just assumed they were brilliantly clairvoyant, but I don't see them coming forward now to say so.  How odd.  If they don't have miracle-born crystalline inner knowing, I wonder why they type out verbiage as if they do?

Or, alternatively, perhaps I'm just being cynical?  Sometimes it's hard to say.

Yea i have observed this as well. there are quite a few people here with psychic abilities yet they share very little if any at all. makes you think...

[Ymarsakar]

Psychics are actively targeted for farming by negative 4th density, in terms of bloodline. Hence before 2012, the real ones would be wise to keep quiet, as they would get a number of responses, none of them beneficial.

1. Would be peregrine's cynicism. The negative feedback loop is like flooding your kitchen and bathroom.
2. Some fun and light talk about different abilities. No harm, but no benefit either for the risk taken.
3. More significant work in elevating one's abilities.
4. Getting red flagged because of 3.

Once you are "red flagged", then you come to the attention of the low vibration counter measures. Sorta like how Alphabet and twitter flags certain users in need of shadow banning, suppression, or other types of harassment. You don't know that you have been put on a list, because the AI algorithm did it. You don't know that they are actively harassing you and shadowbanning you.You just know bad stuff is happening.

Even amongst police investigation teams, psychics have to be validated based on prior work cases and reputation. A lot of these psychic tips are useless or erroneous.

However, this ability is highly sought after. For a number of reasons. The dark military's Remote Viewing projects, for one thing.

[Aion]

Gotta keep it on the DL, yo.

[Sacred Fool]

1. Would be peregrine's cynicism.

 
I take your point about the cynicism.  It probably feels unfriendly to some.

So, to be more direct: In recent years there has been surge, it has seemed to me, of members who don't stay around all that long, but use these spaces to declare that they have the inside scoop on the deep secrets of the universe.  Typically, they don't say, "It looks to me like..." or "As I see it...."  Rather, they express themselves as if they are gifted oracles when they show no basis for this assumption.  I feel that it's perfectly reasonable to challenge such behaviour because it has a slow deleterious effect upon the forums in general, in my view.  This way of discussing the unseen in these forums has a way of moving the center of concern (the focus of reality) towards the small self and away from the central Mystery.  (BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)

By the way, Y, when you wish to embolden a text (b /b) use the square brackets [], not the pointy ones <>.  Your intentions will be better manifested that way, so to speak.
  
  

[Patrick]

...(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)...

Yeah maybe mods thinks other mods are taking care of things while they take a little break.  Except they are all thinking that at the same time.

[Sacred Fool]

...(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)...

Yeah maybe mods thinks other mods are taking care of things while they take a little break.  Except they are all thinking that at the same time.

Right, all two of them.

I'd appreciate your comments when you find your way to the thread I just posted in the meta forums section.

[Ymarsakar]

(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)

Most seekers and those on the adept path, are busy with their astrological pre incarnative, aka pre mortal life planning, events and stuff in 2020. Some are slow, others are fast, and some have finished/graduated.

Judging by  the LL LAO podcasts, the research group is progressing in their seeking whatever they are seeking, but moderating a forum of adults, is not high on the priority list. That or there's a frequency/density shift and barrier.

Thanks for the tip.

It probably feels unfriendly to some.

So, to be more direct: In recent years there has been surge, it has seemed to me, of members who don't stay around all that long, but use these spaces to declare that they have the inside scoop on the deep secrets of the universe. Typically, they don't say, "It looks to me like..." or "As I see it...." Rather, they express themselves as if they are gifted oracles when they show no basis for this assumption.

To explain this to non empaths, it is not that it is unfriendly or friendly. Rather, to you, you have processed all your experiences and reactions to those events in sequence. But when you output and project your conclusion in another reaction, they receive most or all of the negative feedback and emotions you felt dealing with all those other "members".

In 4th density telempathic civilizations, they have to keep strict control of certain internal emotions and reactions, because it is too easy to violate etiquette otherwise. To human 3rd density civilizations, driving into someone's home is a boundary problem and conflict. To tele empathic groups, manifesting an action/reaction based on your negative experience, means everybody else will get that negative experience of yours, except this time it is bundled up all in one shot.

This is in addition to other things such as the intent or idea that other member's behavior applies to someone that is not one of those other members. It's what people argue endlessly online about "I didn't write that". This doesn't apply to most online written communication, because the bandwidth of text is very limited and specific. So unless you imply or state that someone said x or y, they can't take offense that someone thought they said something they did not. However, if you are emoting emotions across a 4th density/ heart chakra channel, then that's like a voice or body language "tell". You say one thing, but your voice or body language says the opposite. This is compounded by many empaths not having a very good or disciplined control of their abilities and senses.

As for gifted oracles, channels exist. Unless you have some kind of "ability" to discern that, by what basis are they supposed to justify stuff that does not exist in 3rd density? You are on a forum, talking about an imaginary entity or alien called iamraw (by sound frequency naming). Verifying channeled information has been a thorny subject for quite some time now, since like the beginning. The same applies for people's claims of psychic abilities, or any other ability such as military experience.

[Sacred Fool]

Blah blah blah

*Sigh*

Look, you're making this waaaay too complicated and using way too words to do so, in my not entirely humble opinion.

To further simply this: very often people make very firm statements about esoteric matters without presenting any plausible foundation for their knowledge.  You may believe whatever you like about what you think I was being sarcastic.  I feel it was due to frustration.

To give a hypothetical example, now and then people will make sweeping judgments about, or interpretation of, the Ra Material after saying they've not read much of it, and what they say may not make much sense.  And then the next newbie picks that up and runs away with it to make some further silly conclusion.  Then they both disappear in six months after de-tuning the forums and misleading other new members.  I've just had enough of people prostituting this space by using to sound off about whatever junk comes into their head at the time.  This, by the way, is why I remain observantly skeptical about yourself, in case you're interested.

These forums desperately need to be tuned to vibrations closer to the LLR enterprise, as I view the matter.  But then, I could be wrong.
  
  

[Asolsutsesvyl]

I'd like to add that I've actually seen examples of how less focused and tuned input from newcomers can actually be helpful at times. But that's when things are very quiet and a quick and sloppy short note from anyone is perfectly adequate for moving things along, prompting more thoughtful discussion in response, instead of a dead silence remaining.

But I've been bothered when I've seen people not care about what is said in the material or in response to them, ignoring the plain meaning of phrases, and going on to repeat plainly wrong or totally irrelevant stuff over and over again. That's as disruptive as trolling even if the "perpetrator" doesn't intend it to be.

Most of the time, when things simply get noisy (loss of clear signal, yet loud), it's somewhere in-between.

Very often I see people on these forums who speak with such supreme authority about what the LOO means or what this or that means. I just assumed they were brilliantly clairvoyant, but I don't see them coming forward now to say so. How odd. If they don't have miracle-born crystalline inner knowing, I wonder why they type out verbiage as if they do?

Or, alternatively, perhaps I'm just being cynical? Sometimes it's hard to say.

Some years ago, I had a super-pristinely crystalline organization of metaphysical ideas going on in my mind. It's almost all remained private, so far. It turned out to be by and for the purposes of my personal initiation, and not helpful at all to try to tell to others. And it only marked the end of a stage in my journey, turned out to be incomplete and misleading, and I was given the challenge of totally breaking down and rebuilding my understanding.

Sometimes, I've been comparing the pattern of that "inner knowing" and other unusual experiences with what other people visibly put on display. But it's generally disappointing. Because my own process actually held me back from sharing stuff I was sure about, but which later turned out to be wrong, instead of sharing it all along with a false humility.

I had the over-intellectualized rudiments of a later understanding that it was all premature, like a placeholder, more like art filling the canvas of the inner world than anything else. That I had from the start, but then I was the self-questioning type who took in all I read about spiritual errors from the start, too.

I think of that old "crystalline inner knowing" as a bunch of idiosyncratic study material, quite rich and varied, which I can keep working with while breaking the old mold and growing in a way I couldn't have imagined before, but which is at the same time far less dramatic than the stuff I used to imagine.

[Ymarsakar]

Look, you're making this waaaay too complicated and using way too words to do so, in my not entirely humble opinion.

It's not complicated to you, because you processed your experiences in linear time. That is what I am stating. You think you feel frustrated, but that is not an emotion that is isolated. It is connected to all the other negative experiences you have had.

You may get a paper cut, and it may hurt at times, but you can suppress it and maybe forget about it. If all the pain you have accumulated over a life time, you compressed into a zip file, sent it to someone, and they mistakenly opened it in their email and it hit them all at once, this would not just be a result of your "minor frustrations".

These words are necessary because how else are you going to communicate? Would you prefer I use the same words as you used, that you are an Almighty presence on these forms, an elder teacher of the Law of One to us newbies?

Also, I know why or rather who, was involved in giving you that frustration. But I won't say it, as it would not be useful to anyone here. It's not who you think it is.

[Diana]

I do think that the mindset of "exploration" suits better than hardcore "beliefs." When people say they "know" this or that, especially with no stated justifications, it creates a block wall. There is no discussion possible after that—it becomes one-sided and demands an audience to hear whatever it is one knows.

According to Ra, this is not the density of knowing. There is a veil, like it or not. That much is evident.

So maybe, the idea here would be to lighten up on the absolutes. Be open to widening the circle of awareness. At any given moment, we resonate with certain ideas, but do they not always change or evolve (hopefully)? Think back ten years.

[Sacred Fool]

I think of that old "crystalline inner knowing" as a bunch of idiosyncratic study material, quite rich and varied, which I can keep working with while breaking the old mold and growing in a way I couldn't have imagined before, but which is at the same time far less dramatic than the stuff I used to imagine.

Very interesting post.  From the standpoint of recreating these forums, it seems important to have a space for that sort of thing (for those with less self-control than yourself).  Maybe there should be a discrete space for suddenly illuminated geniuses who need a place to spout the first drafts of messianic gospel?  If such were segregated from other forums, it might end up being a good thing in some sense, as you suggest.  People could then return there to see their previous work.  Also, the repetitive nature of such would be more apparent.

It is connected to all the other negative experiences you have had.

So what?  It's connected as well to all my positive emotions as well.  You may well be thinking that you're picking up my emotions when you're actually receiving a blast of your own.  How can you be sure?

Also, I know why or rather who, was involved in giving you that frustration. But I won't say it, as it would not be useful to anyone here. It's not who you think it is.

BS.  Anyhow, you miss the point entirely.  This isn't about me or my feelings.  It's about crafting a beautiful gift for the one Creatrix.  Tune into that vibe for a time and tell us what you get, please.
  
  

[dexter101]

(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)

Most seekers and those on the adept path, are busy with their astrological pre incarnative, aka pre mortal life planning, events and stuff in 2020. Some are slow, others are fast, and some have finished/graduated.

Judging by  the LL LAO podcasts, the research group is progressing in their seeking whatever they are seeking, but moderating a forum of adults, is not high on the priority list. That or there's a frequency/density shift and barrier.

Thanks for the tip.

It probably feels unfriendly to some.

So, to be more direct: In recent years there has been surge, it has seemed to me, of members who don't stay around all that long, but use these spaces to declare that they have the inside scoop on the deep secrets of the universe.  Typically, they don't say, "It looks to me like..." or "As I see it...."  Rather, they express themselves as if they are gifted oracles when they show no basis for this assumption.

To explain this to non empaths, it is not that it is unfriendly or friendly. Rather, to you, you have processed all your experiences and reactions to those events in sequence. But when you output and project your conclusion in another reaction, they receive most or all of the negative feedback and emotions you felt dealing with all those other "members".

In 4th density telempathic civilizations, they have to keep strict control of certain internal emotions and reactions, because it is too easy to violate etiquette otherwise. To human 3rd density civilizations, driving into someone's home is a boundary problem and conflict. To tele empathic groups, manifesting an action/reaction based on your negative experience, means everybody else will get that negative experience of yours, except this time it is bundled up all in one shot.

This is in addition to other things such as the intent or idea that other member's behavior applies to someone that is not one of those other members. It's what people argue endlessly online about "I didn't write that". This doesn't apply to most online written communication, because the bandwidth of text is very limited and specific. So unless you imply or state that someone said x or y, they can't take offense that someone thought they said something they did not. However, if you are emoting emotions across a 4th density/ heart chakra channel, then that's like a voice or body language "tell". You say one thing, but your voice or body language says the opposite. This is compounded by many empaths not having a very good or disciplined control of their abilities and senses.

As for gifted oracles, channels exist. Unless you have some kind of "ability" to discern that, by what basis are they supposed to justify stuff that does not exist in 3rd density? You are on a forum, talking about an imaginary entity or alien called iamraw (by sound frequency naming). Verifying channeled information has been a thorny subject for quite some time now, since like the beginning. The same applies for people's claims of psychic abilities, or any other ability such as military experience.

i think what peregrine is trying to say is that a lot of people come here proclaiming to know it all and the people that actually are in the know simply keep quiet or dont come here at all or in general in society. looking at what it took to get the Ra material out it is a huge cost. it took the life of a man. i can only imagine what its like for the true adepts who are capable of creating real change.

ultimately i think we are all just angry that there is noone out there fighting for us (so it seems) and the elite only seem to progress with their agenda every year unhindered.

i have recently spoken to people about the state of the world and the vast majority(well probably just rich western people i guess) are still in complete disbelief. only here in this forum and a few others which are not that big either are people really awake.
people seem to forget that there are tens of millions of people in the us permanently living in tents right now for months/years and its only going to get worse. not to mention the rest of the world which is bound to catch up eventually.

its just sad. you would think there would be some sort of organization out there fighting for the good cause but instead its just the same old s***. nothing ever changes for the better.

i wonder if what its like for the negatives here on earth. if they become psychic and grow their powers do higher positive beings become aware of them and try to stop them?
or are they free of opposition except from their own ranks?

[Patrick]

...
ultimately i think we are all just angry that there is noone out there fighting for us (so it seems) and the elite only seem to progress with their agenda every year unhindered.
...

If our side is working in the ways mentioned in the following quotes, then it would not be externally visible until it reaches a tipping point.

...In this regard we would suggest that the skillful choice is always to work on the self without regard for working with other entities. Service to others, working upon what you perceive needs to be done in the world, begins and ends within yourself. Until the point at which you are asked specific questions that you may answer in what you hope is a spiritually helpful manner, the work you do on yourself is sufficient and more than adequate in terms of how you may affect the consciousness of planet Earth. Change yourself and you change the world. That is how powerful you really are...

80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

...The focus upon the self in the means of balancing distortions and looking for ways to understand more of what is occurring within the self is an activity that may seem to some to be full of pride and ego, yet we would suggest that such a concentration of an entity’s attention upon its own self in that manner is a means by which a seeker grows, for it needs to be aware of the activity of intellect, of emotion, and of the spirit that moves within one’s own being. Yet that information is used only to temper the steel, shall we say, the character of the entity, and not to impose this character upon another...

...Many times, it seems to each, that there is no way that one person can be of service, that one person’s light can make a difference. However, this instrument is fond of saying that in a dark place the light of one candle can be seen for quite a distance. Metaphysically, this is far more true even than the physical truth of candles and sight. Each of you makes a significant difference to the lightening of the planet as well as to the lightening of your soul. For when each of you does one, each of you is doing the other. To work on the self is to work on the world. Indeed, to work on the self is the most direct and effective way to work on the outer world in a metaphysical sense...

[Ymarsakar]

dexter that does look dark, but likely due to lack of current intel. Please take a look at corey goode, john desouza, laura eisenhower, or portal2012 blog.

If an agent came to these forums, likely few if anyobe would recognize it. They might even be confused for the members that pere complained about

[dexter101]

...
ultimately i think we are all just angry that there is noone out there fighting for us (so it seems) and the elite only seem to progress with their agenda every year unhindered.
...

If our side is working in the ways mentioned in the following quotes, then it would not be externally visible until it reaches a tipping point.

...In this regard we would suggest that the skillful choice is always to work on the self without regard for working with other entities. Service to others, working upon what you perceive needs to be done in the world, begins and ends within yourself. Until the point at which you are asked specific questions that you may answer in what you hope is a spiritually helpful manner, the work you do on yourself is sufficient and more than adequate in terms of how you may affect the consciousness of planet Earth. Change yourself and you change the world. That is how powerful you really are...

80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

...The focus upon the self in the means of balancing distortions and looking for ways to understand more of what is occurring within the self is an activity that may seem to some to be full of pride and ego, yet we would suggest that such a concentration of an entity’s attention upon its own self in that manner is a means by which a seeker grows, for it needs to be aware of the activity of intellect, of emotion, and of the spirit that moves within one’s own being. Yet that information is used only to temper the steel, shall we say, the character of the entity, and not to impose this character upon another...

...Many times, it seems to each, that there is no way that one person can be of service, that one person’s light can make a difference. However, this instrument is fond of saying that in a dark place the light of one candle can be seen for quite a distance. Metaphysically, this is far more true even than the physical truth of candles and sight. Each of you makes a significant difference to the lightening of the planet as well as to the lightening of your soul. For when each of you does one, each of you is doing the other. To work on the self is to work on the world. Indeed, to work on the self is the most direct and effective way to work on the outer world in a metaphysical sense...

Hey that was a quick answer and a lot of quotes. thank you. that must have been a lot of effort. i know how hard it is to find quotes. I didn't know that in the process of removing distortions one can polarize negatively. I thought the more distortions are removed the more love is able to enter. it seems the path to spiritual growth is very similar in both polarities.

[dexter101]

dexter that does look dark, but likely due to lack of current intel. Please take a look at corey goode, john desouza, laura eisenhower, or portal2012 blog.

If an agent came to these forums, likely few if anyobe would recognize it. They might even be confused for the members that pere complained about

unfortunately I do not trust the people you have mentioned. i have read too many bad things about them.sorry.

[Patrick]

Hey that was a quick answer and a lot of quotes. thank you. that must have been a lot of effort. i know how hard it is to find quotes. I didn't know that in the process of removing distortions one can polarize negatively. I thought the more distortions are removed the more love is able to enter. it seems the path to spiritual growth is very similar in both polarities.

I have a prepared portfolio of quotes for many subjects.

And you would not polarize negatively, it says the seeming polarization in the negative while in fact you polarize positively by doing that.  To others it might look like selfishness to some extent.  But actual negative polarization needs to be done at the expanse of others.

[Sacred Fool]

i wonder if what its like for the negatives here on earth. if they become psychic and grow their powers do higher positive beings become aware of them and try to stop them?
or are they free of opposition except from their own ranks?

Dexter, one alternative way of viewing all this to climb outside the Manichean box, outside of black vs. white, us vs. them, and note that all of this phenomenal business is "simply" the process of consciousness self-evolving.  It's a big drama of somewhat groups composed of individuals becoming more aware (more conscious) of their innate being.  In a sense, that's pretty much all this is.

Part of what I hear you say is something like, "I'm just in the Pee Wee League; I wonder what those Major Leaguers are up to?"  It's true that, compared to some, you are relatively powerless, but that's in terms of functionality, not because of any difference of innate capacity.  You are correct that the + and - paths have a lot in common.  What they have in common is consciousness.  You are carrying the blueprints for adepthood, but you're unconscious of them.  These other folks, as you noted, have paid a serious price to learn more deeply about their own beings.  (And that's one big reason no one will respond directly to such a naive question as, "Are you adept and how long did it take you to get there?")  But you have--more or less--all the same materials to begin your own journey.
  
  

[Wanderer Seven]

dexter that does look dark, but likely due to lack of current intel. Please take a look at corey goode, john desouza, laura eisenhower, or portal2012 blog.

If an agent came to these forums, likely few if anyobe would recognize it. They might even be confused for the members that pere complained about

unfortunately I do not trust the people you have mentioned. i have read too many bad things about them.sorry.

Those who have been attacked the most, like David Wilcock, Corey Goode, J Desouza, Laura E. , have been attacked because they speak truth. If you allow those who write ‘bad things’ about others to control you, you are being controlled. It is far better to listen to those who are most attacked and discern what is truth. The light attracts the dark. Remember how Don, Carla, and Jim attracted a fifth density STS or negative being by channeling Ra. So do those who offer truth in this time of warfare get attacked by some who make an appearance of false positivity. These are dreadful times, as the forces of domination and control have all stops out to enslave the world and prevent the people from awakening and becoming free of their control systems. So, the best thing is to understand. The international banks, the global elites are feeling their agenda threatened. They have used humanity for a long time, taking advantage of our water nature, from session 88.

...” Your own nature is water in that you as mind/body/spirit complexes are easily impressed and moved. Indeed, this is the very fiber and nature of your journey and vigil in this density: to not only be moved but to instruct yourself as to the preferred manner of your movement in mind, body, and spirit.“

So we are susceptible to mass delusion and this is used to control us. The entire financial system is the primary example. A great example is also the claim that human use of fossil fuel, by adding carbon dioxide we are creating a climate crisis. This is utter nonsense. This the greatest mass delusion of our time. Since the media has repeated for years that there is a consensus in science (there isn’t) and that it’s “settled.” False. So there is much deception of the masses. What the STS elites fear most is public awakening. Fear of climate change, fear of this person, that person. Don’t be manipulated.

The ironic thing is that our planet has far so long sequestered CO2, that plants are struggling. The climate is always changing due to various cycles, Milankovic cycles, solar cycles, and in a CO2 famine, the elites now want to herd us and control us by a falsehood, that we have to stop CO2 emissions. There is a backlash building among a large number of honest scientists (https://clintel.org  for one example) but if you listen to NPR, etc. they are “deniers” ... it’s an Orwellian world indeed. We need to learn how to discern!

In love and light!

[sillypumpkins]

A great example is also the claim that human use of fossil fuel, by adding carbon dioxide we are creating a climate crisis. This is utter nonsense. This the greatest mass delusion of our time. Since the media has repeated for years that there is a consensus in science (there isn’t) and that it’s “settled.” False. So there is much deception of the masses. What the STS elites fear most is public awakening. Fear of climate change, fear of this person, that person. Don’t be manipulated.

The ironic thing is that our planet has far so long sequestered CO2, that plants are struggling. The climate is always changing due to various cycles, Milankovic cycles, solar cycles, and in a CO2 famine, the elites now want to herd us and control us by a falsehood, that we have to stop CO2 emissions. There is a backlash building among a large number of honest scientists (https://clintel.org  for one example) but if you listen to NPR, etc. they are “deniers” ... it’s an Orwellian world indeed. We need to learn how to discern!

Hmmm.... i don't really know anything about CO2 and it's impact on the environment. With that being said, what do you say about littering and oil spills? I see people litter all the time, and that is certainly causing issues for our environment. We cut down acres upon acres upon acres of rainforest for lumber.......

I don't know. To me it's sort of clear that we "abuse" our planet, whether that be from CO2 or not. We take what we want from it without considering that we are in fact all One.