How to develop outside the will of dictatorship?

[Ray711]

In my experience, our (conscious and, especially, unconscious/energetic) beliefs create our experience, not the other way around. So, it's possible to do what one feels called to and enjoys doing AND not become homeless. If one can transform the beliefs preventing that experience to emerge.

I wish I could agree with this idea, but my life experience has been completely different. Out of the blue, I've been abandoned by people with whom I felt I had a secure and stable bond. Many other times, to my bafflement, I've encountered instances of negativity where, at first, my naivete didn't suspect the slightest thing.

This is why personally I prefer to focus more on building a strong foundation within the self, with which, even when negativity is encountered, the self remains single-pointed and committed to the notion of seeing a degree of beauty or meaning even in seemingly negative events. In that sense, I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that the identification of conscious or unconscious beliefs is of extreme importance, just not with the expectation of seeing things change externally.

[Asolsutsesvyl]

The discussion of the nature of leadership and alternatives to hierarchical control brings to mind Gerald M. Weinberg's book Becoming A Technical Leader, which contrasts the usual linear threat/reward model with organic models of leadership. Organic models are less popular, but actually more suited for quantification for scientific purposes, whereas the conventional models rely upon subjective estimates of "effectiveness" of "influencing" in a variety of contexts.

(As an aside, the quote in the first post is a strange point of departure. The idea there is the contrasting of freedom to exist as an individual entity with being possessed by, basically, a mind-control demon which drives its opponents to their deaths. It's certainly better to develop outside that kind of dictatorship, basically no matter what.)

Is there a need for any system of governance whatsoever in a world where such "imperfections" don't exist in people, though? I would argue that there isn't. Any and all systems of governance exist for the sole purpose of protecting and controlling. The former won't come without a certain degree of the latter. This is the key difference between governments and my previous meditation analogy. Governments don't offer us a way of being that we can follow by example, they don't allow people to follow them (or not) on their own free will. They impose certain rules and conducts upon us, and they exert force upon us when we don't comply. This is a key difference between the negative and the positive polarities. The positive polarity offers its love and acceptance; it is patient and will be there offering what it has to offer, accepting any free will choices by the other entity, even if it's a rejection of the values of love. The negative polarity imposes itself, it calls itself to conquest, and will force the other entity to do what is considered to be the best way of doing things, all under the justification that it's "for their own good".

A path to seeing a larger range of related things and alternatives is to explore how things (including people) work together as systems. Feedback loops come in two kinds: positive (meaning: self-reinforcing) and negative (meaning: self-dampening). Systems thinkers model how each thing may depend on many other things, so that it is usually not the case that you can change one thing and have the rest remain the same. Conventional leadership models, by contrast, simplify away everything except assigned roles/labels, and pretend that each effect has a single clear cause.

In the absence of a centralized order, people will influence one another in complex ways, which can be modeled. In the presence of a centralized order, it remains the same, except that everything is also tangled up in the hierarchical order. Weinberg simplifies things for purposes of simple systems thinking, and divides individual and collective abilities and dynamics into three categories:
- Motivation.
- Organization.
- Ideas or innovation.

Influence is always going on, in these terms. Environments may have positive (amplifying) or negative (dampening) effects in these categories, and be shaped by people to change in those regards. It's easy to think of examples of people with strikingly uneven skills. Technical people are often the strongest in the third category, and usually have relative problems of personal disorganization and/or being poor at motivating others.

The conventional threat/reward leadership approach is based on simplifying away as much as possible, leaving mainly the assigned roles imposed by the authority, the use of threats and rewards to motivate, and a centrally imposed paradigm shaping ideas and innovation. To make it work, the authority must also have under its control those who get the needed organizational work done, to fill in that category.

Attempts to sabotage, or prevent the growth of movements, etc., threatening an existing or potential order can also be analyzed in those terms. Motivation is targeted through psychological warfare. Social forces of inhibition can be deliberately cultivated in order to stifle ideas and innovation which goes against the grain. Means to get things done in an organized way can be made much more accessible to those favored by an existing authority than those at odds with it.

Look at really small societies, or groups whose functioning is unrelated to the work of a centralized government, and you will see dynamics play out in which people play individual roles difficult to fit into tidy labels, but where leadership is continually going on, in ways which may look very different from those usually brought to mind by the word "leader". The usual ideas of "the leader" and how such things are supposed to look can become wildly misleading in technical work contexts, Weinberg shows through examples.

At an extreme, organic leadership can make for an exploring, choosing, and discovering, without fixed goals beforehand, where people feel as if they serve the same basis of life, with spiritual overtones. The opposite is a view of the world as containing a limited number of ideas, and the deliberate fueling of ruthless competition and limiting of necessary resources in order to prevent new systems from growing to the point where the status quo is threatened.

[Dtris]

In my experience, our (conscious and, especially, unconscious/energetic) beliefs create our experience, not the other way around. So, it's possible to do what one feels called to and enjoys doing AND not become homeless. If one can transform the beliefs preventing that experience to emerge.

They do more than just create the experience, they literally create what we think of as reality. Our greater consciousness is creating in every moment the world we live in.

I wish I could agree with this idea, but my life experience has been completely different. Out of the blue, I've been abandoned by people with whom I felt I had a secure and stable bond. Many other times, to my bafflement, I've encountered instances of negativity where, at first, my naivete didn't suspect the slightest thing.

This is why personally I prefer to focus more on building a strong foundation within the self, with which, even when negativity is encountered, the self remains single-pointed and committed to the notion of seeing a degree of beauty or meaning even in seemingly negative events. In that sense, I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that the identification of conscious or unconscious beliefs is of extreme importance, just not with the expectation of seeing things change externally.

This concept can be very difficult to accept for many people. Especially so for those who have been thru truly hellish experiences. If someone tells them they create their own reality, and own experience, then they think you are blaming them for causing their own suffering.

The picture is more complicated than a lot of people think when it comes to belief creating experience and reality. The simple layer which most people agree on, is beliefs act to bias the consciousness into what is noticed and color the experience. When someone is having paranoid delusions it is real to them what they are experiencing. The same happens to everyone on a lesser scale. You might have had a bad incident with people named Hugh Jannus, so whenever you meet someone else with the same name you automatically dislike them.

The next layer is that the beliefs create biases which effect behavior and choices which create experiences subconsciously. Ex. A belief that you are an inadequate romantic partner could stop you from having long term romantic success.

Beyond that the real difficult to accept stuff stars happening. Like the drawing in of experienced based on belief, and the creation of matter.

What is usually forgotten is that we are co-creating the world with every other conscious thing. The level of actual control we have is limited due to the desire of our higher being to be in this co-created reality. So there is a level where our consciousness is communicating with each other so we create a reality which is congruent with each other. This includes things we never expect and random occurrences.

[flofrog]

So there is a level where our consciousness is communicating with each other so we create a reality which is congruent with each other. This includes things we never expect and random occurrences.

Quite. And quite beautiful

Also, as a side note, as I am re-reading the Ra contact from the beginning, we do not forget, from Ra’s perpective, that all cosmos all planets follow a hierarchical order, so that this communication of our consciousness with others is indeed so important in that creation ..

[RitaJC]

In my experience, our (conscious and, especially, unconscious/energetic) beliefs create our experience, not the other way around. So, it's possible to do what one feels called to and enjoys doing AND not become homeless. If one can transform the beliefs preventing that experience to emerge.

This is why personally I prefer to focus more on building a strong foundation within the self, with which, even when negativity is encountered, the self remains single-pointed and committed to the notion of seeing a degree of beauty or meaning even in seemingly negative events. In that sense, I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that the identification of conscious or unconscious beliefs is of extreme importance, just not with the expectation of seeing things change externally.

That's exactly what I meant

[RitaJC]

In my experience, our (conscious and, especially, unconscious/energetic) beliefs create our experience, not the other way around. So, it's possible to do what one feels called to and enjoys doing AND not become homeless. If one can transform the beliefs preventing that experience to emerge.

They do more than just create the experience, they literally create what we think of as reality. Our greater consciousness is creating in every moment the world we live in.

I wish I could agree with this idea, but my life experience has been completely different. Out of the blue, I've been abandoned by people with whom I felt I had a secure and stable bond. Many other times, to my bafflement, I've encountered instances of negativity where, at first, my naivete didn't suspect the slightest thing.

This is why personally I prefer to focus more on building a strong foundation within the self, with which, even when negativity is encountered, the self remains single-pointed and committed to the notion of seeing a degree of beauty or meaning even in seemingly negative events. In that sense, I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that the identification of conscious or unconscious beliefs is of extreme importance, just not with the expectation of seeing things change externally.

This concept can be very difficult to accept for many people. Especially so for those who have been thru truly hellish experiences. If someone tells them they create their own reality, and own experience, then they think you are blaming them for causing their own suffering.

The picture is more complicated than a lot of people think when it comes to belief creating experience and reality. The simple layer which most people agree on, is beliefs act to bias the consciousness into what is noticed and color the experience. When someone is having paranoid delusions it is real to them what they are experiencing. The same happens to everyone on a lesser scale. You might have had a bad incident with people named Hugh Jannus, so whenever you meet someone else with the same name you automatically dislike them.

The next layer is that the beliefs create biases which effect behavior and choices which create experiences subconsciously. Ex. A belief that you are an inadequate romantic partner could stop you from having long term romantic success.

Beyond that the real difficult to accept stuff stars happening. Like the drawing in of experienced based on belief, and the creation of matter.

What is usually forgotten is that we are co-creating the world with every other conscious thing. The level of actual control we have is limited due to the desire of our higher being to be in this co-created reality. So there is a level where our consciousness is communicating with each other so we create a reality which is congruent with each other. This includes things we never expect and random occurrences.

In my understanding, experience is the only reality accessible to me at any given moment, no matter in my world

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I’m a bit late to the party but this caught my attention as I was thinking about this the other day.

The nature of STS is that people aren’t likely to unify their will towards a common goal. They may have conquest in mind but on the way their is a plethora of pecking order to navigate and games to play. Most of their motivations are likely to be moves in their personal game as well as towards conquest.

The same goes for STO, we’re all trying to progress more effectively to serve more efficiently and to unify with the creator. It is much easier for STO entities to work together to achieve the same goal. It is my belief that Jesus meant the will when he said, when the two in this house become one. The will becomes one.

I’m a huge believer that the most successful businesses countries etc have the will of the people united towards a single goal. If you are all working towards a goal, then divisions etc mean less because they’re detrimental to the goal. Quo mention this as the tip of the compass being pointed in a single direction.

The law of squares is really powerful and so you can get a relatively small group of people within the dictatorship to unify their desire to be free within the society or to free those who desire to be free, then you have the potential for greater things. No matter what work you can do, you can be free in that you face it with love and a perseverance that says, no matter how many time’s I fail, I will attempt to face this with love again.

These invisible things are what push us closest to the creator, please try not to judge your progress by what you see with you eyes, it is a shadow to the truth of reality. Even the dictator serves the creator and allows it to gain valid experience. Sometimes I wonder if I would be so motivated to serve without injustice, maybe it is those who are not which help us to realise what we are.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I would remind people of the pillars in the archetypical mind which have the same images on. The only difference between the way they are shaded. The catalyst can remain the same, it is the view and approach to the catalyst that is different for STO/STS entities.

The STO path is about control and manipulation.
The STS path is about acceptance and unity.

I personally believe we have huge influence on catalyst but I do believe there are those things we agree on, on a subconscious level and whilst we may have created this for ourselves, it doesn’t take away the sting of the pain and suffering.

I have come to a point in life where I am truly grateful for every experience I’ve ever had, however, if you tried telling me that I was involved in creating catalyst for myself a few years ago, I would’ve denied that and it would have been my right under law of confusion. I was very attached to being a victim of life and it’s circumstances and I created an identity out of those beliefs, it took a psychotic breakdown and complete terror to allow my ego to crack and remind me of the true nature of things.

Some of us are growing more slowly than others, it is the right of each and every one of us to do so. Once we come to terms with this, I think allowing other their freewill and not viewing their suffering as something to be eradicated is inevitable.

[AnthroHeart]

I would remind people of the pillars in the archetypical mind which have the same images on. The only difference between the way they are shaded. The catalyst can remain the same, it is the view and approach to the catalyst that is different for STO/STS entities.

The STO path is about control and manipulation.
The STS path is about acceptance and unity.

I personally believe we have huge influence on catalyst but I do believe there are those things we agree on, on a subconscious level and whilst we may have created this for ourselves, it doesn’t take away the sting of the pain and suffering.

I have come to a point in life where I am truly grateful for every experience I’ve ever had, however, if you tried telling me that I was involved in creating catalyst for myself a few years ago, I would’ve denied that and it would have been my right under law of confusion. I was very attached to being a victim of life and it’s circumstances and I created an identity out of those beliefs, it took a psychotic breakdown and complete terror to allow my ego to crack and remind me of the true nature of things.

Some of us are growing more slowly than others, it is the right of each and every one of us to do so. Once we come to terms with this, I think allowing other their freewill and not viewing their suffering as something to be eradicated is inevitable.

I think you have that reversed.
I still question if I am STS or STO cause I seek to better myself for now, in order to be of better service later.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I would remind people of the pillars in the archetypical mind which have the same images on. The only difference between the way they are shaded. The catalyst can remain the same, it is the view and approach to the catalyst that is different for STO/STS entities.

The STO path is about control and manipulation.
The STS path is about acceptance and unity.

I personally believe we have huge influence on catalyst but I do believe there are those things we agree on, on a subconscious level and whilst we may have created this for ourselves, it doesn’t take away the sting of the pain and suffering.

I have come to a point in life where I am truly grateful for every experience I’ve ever had, however, if you tried telling me that I was involved in creating catalyst for myself a few years ago, I would’ve denied that and it would have been my right under law of confusion. I was very attached to being a victim of life and it’s circumstances and I created an identity out of those beliefs, it took a psychotic breakdown and complete terror to allow my ego to crack and remind me of the true nature of things.

Some of us are growing more slowly than others, it is the right of each and every one of us to do so. Once we come to terms with this, I think allowing other their freewill and not viewing their suffering as something to be eradicated is inevitable.

I think you have that reversed.
I still question if I am STS or STO cause I seek to better myself for now, in order to be of better service later.

I had reversed those, my apologies. I’m glad you’re aware enough that I’m not giving out mistruths ?. Love/light.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I would remind people of the pillars in the archetypical mind which have the same images on. The only difference between the way they are shaded. The catalyst can remain the same, it is the view and approach to the catalyst that is different for STO/STS entities.

The STO path is about control and manipulation.
The STS path is about acceptance and unity.

I personally believe we have huge influence on catalyst but I do believe there are those things we agree on, on a subconscious level and whilst we may have created this for ourselves, it doesn’t take away the sting of the pain and suffering.

I have come to a point in life where I am truly grateful for every experience I’ve ever had, however, if you tried telling me that I was involved in creating catalyst for myself a few years ago, I would’ve denied that and it would have been my right under law of confusion. I was very attached to being a victim of life and it’s circumstances and I created an identity out of those beliefs, it took a psychotic breakdown and complete terror to allow my ego to crack and remind me of the true nature of things.

Some of us are growing more slowly than others, it is the right of each and every one of us to do so. Once we come to terms with this, I think allowing other their freewill and not viewing their suffering as something to be eradicated is inevitable.

I think you have that reversed.
I still question if I am STS or STO cause I seek to better myself for now, in order to be of better service later.

I had reversed those, my apologies. I’m glad you’re aware enough that I’m not giving out mistruths. And this is exactly how I am feeling, I am trying to improve myself in order to be more effective at serving and allowing the creators will to be done.

I have such issues with service in that I don’t know what the will of the creator is. I have an ‘intellectual’ knowing but it means very little to me and until I realise with my heart, I won’t be comfortable in trying to serve. I don’t believe we can give what we haven’t got and so I would like to find the creator before I can share the creator.
Love/light.

[Dtris]

I have such issues with service in that I don’t know what the will of the creator is. I have an ‘intellectual’ knowing but it means very little to me and until I realise with my heart, I won’t be comfortable in trying to serve. I don’t believe we can give what we haven’t got and so I would like to find the creator before I can share the creator.
Love/light.

This is a conundrum that many people will encounter. The truth is that in this experience we are having, we cannot know the will of the Creator. Yet we desire to serve. So we can only offer what we can give, you are correct. I cannot give out cars, but I can give advice about things I have been thru. I just try to stick to things I am confident in, and I do not offer unless asked or they agree first in general. Since we are all the creator, then by making sure the service is desired, then at least one portion of the creator's will can be known.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I have such issues with service in that I don’t know what the will of the creator is. I have an ‘intellectual’ knowing but it means very little to me and until I realise with my heart, I won’t be comfortable in trying to serve. I don’t believe we can give what we haven’t got and so I would like to find the creator before I can share the creator.
Love/light.

This is a conundrum that many people will encounter. The truth is that in this experience we are having, we cannot know the will of the Creator. Yet we desire to serve. So we can only offer what we can give, you are correct. I cannot give out cars, but I can give advice about things I have been thru. I just try to stick to things I am confident in, and I do not offer unless asked or they agree first in general. Since we are all the creator, then by making sure the service is desired, then at least one portion of the creator's will can be known.

I really agree and I don't mean that physically haha! I don't have much physically but I give what I can in service, whether that be listening to someone, meditating for the planet and all those that share it with us or just by trying to stay clear and allow the love to flow through me. I think we can become very aware of the creators will but we have to keep failing to learn and become more and more in line with that will by learning from our mistakes.

A lot of the channeling sessions suggest we desire to learn what love is and to further our understanding of exactly what it is that means, which indicates that we can become very aware, its just by the time you're that aware, you have probably learned the lessons you desired to learn and incarnation won't last long after that. I'm not certain of this but I have questioned myself and if it possible to become aware and it does appear that we can be. I think meditation is one of the ways to become aware of this and this is whats meant when they say that life eventually turns into one long meditation. Sorry for my baffling haha, Love/light and best of luck in you seeking.

[unity100]

Working at a job is a voluntary agreement.

Not at all.

You have to work 'voluntarily' for this exploiter or the other exploiter. This is what the system requires.

Otherwise, if workers had enough choices, then they would not work for ever-decreasing wages.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/27/busin...olicy.html

That is the work of people like Alan Greenspan, who openly advocated job scarcity in order to push workers to work for less. And you see the results today, everywhere.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

Working at a job is a voluntary agreement.

Not at all.

You have to work 'voluntarily' for this exploiter or the other exploiter. This is what the system requires.

Otherwise, if workers had enough choices, then they would not work for ever-decreasing wages.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/27/busin...olicy.html

That is the work of people like Alan Greenspan, who openly advocated job scarcity in order to push workers to work for less. And you see the results today, everywhere.

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental. From the age of 13, Jesus left home and put his faith in the father, he knew the father intended for him not to lack and so he knew he had total freedom. Jesus wanted no limits, those of us with lessons place limitations on ourselves in order to come to terms with and surpass those limitations.

I see nettles, dandelions and lots of other food that the creator offers us in plenty. We desire a certain lifestyle and therefore we agree to be trapped in a system. Some are slaves and I do not deny this, they may have lessons in this and may have offered themselves in service so that the creator may know the experience of capture and freedom or a variety of other experiences.

It is our inability to accept truth that brings pain. We see suffering and want to alleviate it, this is natural, however, we have to experience pain in order to learn certain lessons and so if someone wants to suffer, it is their freewill.

Pondering martyrdom, if you sacrifice yourself for someone who doesn’t want to be saved, you’re not being of service. Many have been tricked into believing they must live a certain way.

I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules.

They used freewill and now do not have a need for the job and the system. They realised that they are responsible for their lives and that they have the power to survive. Can you imagine the amount of energy allowed through red ray when you really feel capable of survival? When you don’t have to be dependant on someone else paying your salary, paying your rent, affording healthcare etc.

To put our faith in the creator to provide us with all we need allows us to be free of the fear that I am hearing being described. Many feel trapped, like drones in a hive forcing to work for a false queen, this experience has been created for them to learn, let them learn and demonstrate your understanding through your way of life and they may ask you to teach them.

The value of food cannot change, it is priceless, treasure it and grow it yourself and feel the liberation from globalisation. I can not describe the respect generated for ones food when it is grown and cared for by yourself. It also discourages gluttony because you see the toll it’s taken just for a fruit to get to harvest, everything is suddenly used far more efficiently. Waste doesn’t exist because you find a use for everything.

[unity100]

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental.

...

I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules.

They used freewill and now do not have a need for the job and the system.

When they become numerous enough and impact the system, the system attacks such segments to protect itself.

Just like how various neoliberal evangelists in US started to say how 'worker owned companies pay better wages to their members and therefore hurt other companies'.

The next stage of such advocacy is legislating impediments to worker owned cooperatives. The stage after is enforcing them.

Like how nonprofits have to beg every 2 years for donations and they always exist at the age of bankruptcy. Because laws were arranged to prevent them from challenging traditional capitalist companies.

...

It may feel inconvenient, but the reality of existence is that you cannot go anywhere without doing anything. Acting, walking forward, furthering your path and protecting your vision are always needed.

3d and 4d are social densities. Progress must happen by social activities and recognizing the importance of social coherence.

[Diana]

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental.

...

I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules.

They used freewill and now do not have a need for the job and the system.

When they become numerous enough and impact the system, the system attacks such segments to protect itself.

Just like how various neoliberal evangelists in US started to say how 'worker owned companies pay better wages to their members and therefore hurt other companies'.

The next stage of such advocacy is legislating impediments to worker owned cooperatives. The stage after is enforcing them.

Like how nonprofits have to beg every 2 years for donations and they always exist at the age of bankruptcy. Because laws were arranged to prevent them from challenging traditional capitalist companies.

...

It may feel inconvenient, but the reality of existence is that you cannot go anywhere without doing anything. Acting, walking forward, furthering your path and protecting your vision are always needed.

3d and 4d are social densities. Progress must happen by social activities and recognizing the importance of social coherence.

In addition to what Unity100 said, it must also be considered that in order to live in a community "off the grid" one must purchase enough land to do it. Then, there must be enough funds to build shelter, dig a well, etc. Many, many people do not have the resources to do this. No matter where you turn in today's world, it is difficult to not have to interact with the "system" in some way. 

I live in the US, and I am not familiar with Holy Island in Scotland. Who owns it?

[Diana]

In my experience, our (conscious and, especially, unconscious/energetic) beliefs create our experience, not the other way around. So, it's possible to do what one feels called to and enjoys doing AND not become homeless. If one can transform the beliefs preventing that experience to emerge.

They do more than just create the experience, they literally create what we think of as reality. Our greater consciousness is creating in every moment the world we live in.

I wish I could agree with this idea, but my life experience has been completely different. Out of the blue, I've been abandoned by people with whom I felt I had a secure and stable bond. Many other times, to my bafflement, I've encountered instances of negativity where, at first, my naivete didn't suspect the slightest thing.

This is why personally I prefer to focus more on building a strong foundation within the self, with which, even when negativity is encountered, the self remains single-pointed and committed to the notion of seeing a degree of beauty or meaning even in seemingly negative events. In that sense, I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that the identification of conscious or unconscious beliefs is of extreme importance, just not with the expectation of seeing things change externally.

This concept can be very difficult to accept for many people. Especially so for those who have been thru truly hellish experiences. If someone tells them they create their own reality, and own experience, then they think you are blaming them for causing their own suffering.

The picture is more complicated than a lot of people think when it comes to belief creating experience and reality. The simple layer which most people agree on, is beliefs act to bias the consciousness into what is noticed and color the experience. When someone is having paranoid delusions it is real to them what they are experiencing. The same happens to everyone on a lesser scale. You might have had a bad incident with people named Hugh Jannus, so whenever you meet someone else with the same name you automatically dislike them.

The next layer is that the beliefs create biases which effect behavior and choices which create experiences subconsciously. Ex. A belief that you are an inadequate romantic partner could stop you from having long term romantic success.

Beyond that the real difficult to accept stuff stars happening. Like the drawing in of experienced based on belief, and the creation of matter.

What is usually forgotten is that we are co-creating the world with every other conscious thing. The level of actual control we have is limited due to the desire of our higher being to be in this co-created reality. So there is a level where our consciousness is communicating with each other so we create a reality which is congruent with each other. This includes things we never expect and random occurrences.

I think one of the reasons this is such a difficult subject is the disparity between different people's situations.

It's very easy to spout we create our own reality from the vantage point of current comfort. This is exemplified in the movie, The Secret. It is comprised of a bunch of very well-off if not very wealthy people saying we create our own reality. Whether or not they came from a bad situation, they are now comfortable, telling those who are suffering all they need to do is change their "beliefs." I found the movie to be demeaning and ridiculous.

How about some compassion for the suffering? What does one say to a starving refugee in a war-torn country, or a hungry, abused teenager from Harlem? That they created their reality and all they have to do is change their beliefs?

It's not that simple. And I find it to be judgmental. For my part, I would rather try to help those in need. Let them come to realizations about the nature of reality on their own. I don't mean to say that we shouldn't discuss this here, but I am trying to add a little reality to this conversation.

[meadow-foreigner]

Working at a job is a voluntary agreement.

Not at all.

You have to work 'voluntarily' for this exploiter or the other exploiter. This is what the system requires.

Otherwise, if workers had enough choices, then they would not work for ever-decreasing wages.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/27/busin...olicy.html

That is the work of people like Alan Greenspan, who openly advocated job scarcity in order to push workers to work for less. And you see the results today, everywhere.

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental. From the age of 13, Jesus left home and put his faith in the father, he knew the father intended for him not to lack and so he knew he had total freedom. Jesus wanted no limits, those of us with lessons place limitations on ourselves in order to come to terms with and surpass those limitations.

I see nettles, dandelions and lots of other food that the creator offers us in plenty. We desire a certain lifestyle and therefore we agree to be trapped in a system. Some are slaves and I do not deny this, they may have lessons in this and may have offered themselves in service so that the creator may know the experience of capture and freedom or a variety of other experiences.

Nature in its base form is cool, but what about applied Intelligence? Wouldn't you add to the creation, wouldn't you enhance it if you're able to do so?

" It is our inability to accept truth that brings pain. "

That would suffice, had not truth be such a polemic subject. Some say the "truth" prevails even if no one believes it; but then, what if someone claims a false thing to be true or a true thing to be false? How do you discern between what is true and what is not?

I disagree that pain has to do with the lack of acceptance. From my perspective, pain is the resistance to a movement, and sometimes people ought to be resistance. Wouldn't you stand up against injustice? Would you not, then your connivance would cause more pain. Would you stand against it, you would feel the pain of resisting the avalanche of the unjust, predatory establishment.

A mere simpleton acceptance per se wouldn't foment any real change; and since life is change, wouldn't you rather live?

"We see suffering and want to alleviate it, this is natural, however, we have to experience pain in order to learn certain lessons and so if someone wants to suffer, it is their freewill."

We dissociate pain from suffering, and I suggest you do so as well. Dwelling in painful experiences, in the past or future (unattainable, unfeasible) events might bring suffering to the table. Over-focusing on any given part of the whole, such as a pixel of a high-res image, might promote suffering.

I'll illustrate:

Suppose your totality of being is a huge fractal image comprised of every color there is. A given experience or circumstance is a pixel within this fractal, and such pixel might have a certain predominant color, let's say red.

You then perceive the red. That is neutral per se.
Then you begin rationalizing and over-feeling the color you perceive:
"Oh my, so much red, so much blood, so much viscerality...! All I see is red, all I see is blood, the world is an endless red sea..." and so on.
From the principle of mentalism, you now create and re-create your reality from your perception, and the carousel goes on. You get imbued with reddish thoughts, emotions, and feelings, and soon enough you find yourself unable to see other hues.

It's not that the person "wants to suffer"; they're simply incapable of perceiving the self-imposed trick of the game: you get what you think about.

"Pondering martyrdom, if you sacrifice yourself for someone who doesn’t want to be saved, you’re not being of service. Many have been tricked into believing they must live a certain way."

This is a common trap, and I don't only refer to extremes such as martyrdom. The rationalized excuse can have many forms: a life of "servitude", of "unconditioned compassion", of "utmost wisdom", of "honourable duty", etc. The list is endless. You suit yourself with the reasons you want most to keep your mental engine up and running.

"I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules."

I'll spark some arousal against such a seemingly enlightened pursuit: how are you supposed to transcend reality if you cut yourself off from it?

This world ain't a tiny little peaceful village. Seclusion is as detrimental to the so-called awakening as over-inclusion. How are you supposed to wake up to the realities of this world if you blind yourself to them? Such an approach reminds me of the over-cautious, reluctant person who dies in the end anyhow. Life is going to deliver its blows whether you're in the front or in the sidelines and, in the end, we're all going to die anyway, so why not make a given lifetime the best you could possibly make? It's your choice.

"To put our faith in the creator to provide us with all we need allows us to be free of the fear that I am hearing being described. Many feel trapped, like drones in a hive forcing to work for a false queen, this experience has been created for them to learn, let them learn and demonstrate your understanding through your way of life and they may ask you to teach them."

The hive only lasts because it provides a shelter, a nest, protection of some kind to its drones/workers. The queen of the hive dictates the actions of the hive as a whole, serving as a kind of "brains" to the "muscles" of the workers. It's a good thing human beings are a step beyond animal life, right? Human beings can converse and make science, build upon ideas, and make the world a little better.

"The value of food cannot change, it is priceless, treasure it and grow it yourself and feel the liberation from globalisation. I can not describe the respect generated for ones food when it is grown and cared for by yourself. It also discourages gluttony because you see the toll it’s taken just for a fruit to get to harvest, everything is suddenly used far more efficiently. Waste doesn’t exist because you find a use for everything."

Absolutely. The biological processing of food that your body does is sacred and should be treated as such. However, the aversion of any given reference (be it the hive-mind of capitalism, a random predator figure, a remembrance of your past) still has the reference as the pivot. Your emotional self still values the thing you run from, you still put it in high regard. Therefore, the thing you value, even if you run from it, still has some power over you.

Why not overgrow the aversion and move to a place of serenity, of everlasting samadhi? It's your choice.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental.

...

I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules.

They used freewill and now do not have a need for the job and the system.

When they become numerous enough and impact the system, the system attacks such segments to protect itself.

Just like how various neoliberal evangelists in US started to say how 'worker owned companies pay better wages to their members and therefore hurt other companies'.

The next stage of such advocacy is legislating impediments to worker owned cooperatives. The stage after is enforcing them.

Like how nonprofits have to beg every 2 years for donations and they always exist at the age of bankruptcy. Because laws were arranged to prevent them from challenging traditional capitalist companies.

...

It may feel inconvenient, but the reality of existence is that you cannot go anywhere without doing anything. Acting, walking forward, furthering your path and protecting your vision are always needed.

3d and 4d are social densities. Progress must happen by social activities and recognizing the importance of social coherence.

It is wonderful to see how people give up their freewill so easily. I am not trying to convince you of anything other than your right as a cocreator.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental.

...

I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules.

They used freewill and now do not have a need for the job and the system.

When they become numerous enough and impact the system, the system attacks such segments to protect itself.

Just like how various neoliberal evangelists in US started to say how 'worker owned companies pay better wages to their members and therefore hurt other companies'.

The next stage of such advocacy is legislating impediments to worker owned cooperatives. The stage after is enforcing them.

Like how nonprofits have to beg every 2 years for donations and they always exist at the age of bankruptcy. Because laws were arranged to prevent them from challenging traditional capitalist companies.

...

It may feel inconvenient, but the reality of existence is that you cannot go anywhere without doing anything. Acting, walking forward, furthering your path and protecting your vision are always needed.

3d and 4d are social densities. Progress must happen by social activities and recognizing the importance of social coherence.

In addition to what Unity100 said, it must also be considered that in order to live in a community "off the grid" one must purchase enough land to do it. Then, there must be enough funds to build shelter, dig a well, etc. Many, many people do not have the resources to do this. No matter where you turn in today's world, it is difficult to not have to interact with the "system" in some way. 

I live in the US, and I am not familiar with Holy Island in Scotland. Who owns it?

It was founded by St Aidan and later bought by monks. I don’t believe you can own anything and from what I have seen in my life, a place of land is not needed. Jesus says we do not have a place to lay our head. We are not birds and have no nest.

It is the attachment to land, lifestyle, homes etc that keeps everyone from believing they have freewill. I make my own clothes, grow as much food as I can and if I needed to do so, could eat burdock roots and dandelions, nettle soup and wild garlic and all the other things the creator offers in bounty.

Man came out of caves with no Walmart to buy a spear. Can we not retrieve copper and smelt it? Can be we not dig wells like the people of the himba tribe do daily? They use their hands and very basic tools and just make a hole in the sand.

We are so much more capable than you all believe. It saddens me how you all believe your survival is dependent on anything other than the creators love.

The red ray chakra is blocked by this, you are all limiting your ability to open the heart. I need not convince you otherwise, but please look to the native cultures of our planet and learn their wisdom, survival has never been hard for those that live in accordance with the way. The Australian aborigines marvel at the way we struggle, they say the creator gives them all they need.

We want more, that’s why we’re not happy. And sure I’m happy to contribute to the creation but in ways fueled by loved. Before I make large contributions, I require the wisdom aided by compassion. Not all of this is directed at anyone, it just amazes me how people actually believe they are trapped when they can walk, chop a tree down, make tools, harvest plants and drink from lakes. What else do we need? Love is what is lacking.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

Working at a job is a voluntary agreement.

Not at all.

You have to work 'voluntarily' for this exploiter or the other exploiter. This is what the system requires.

Otherwise, if workers had enough choices, then they would not work for ever-decreasing wages.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/27/busin...olicy.html

That is the work of people like Alan Greenspan, who openly advocated job scarcity in order to push workers to work for less. And you see the results today, everywhere.

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental. From the age of 13, Jesus left home and put his faith in the father, he knew the father intended for him not to lack and so he knew he had total freedom. Jesus wanted no limits, those of us with lessons place limitations on ourselves in order to come to terms with and surpass those limitations.

I see nettles, dandelions and lots of other food that the creator offers us in plenty. We desire a certain lifestyle and therefore we agree to be trapped in a system. Some are slaves and I do not deny this, they may have lessons in this and may have offered themselves in service so that the creator may know the experience of capture and freedom or a variety of other experiences.

Nature in its base form is cool, but what about applied Intelligence? Wouldn't you add to the creation, wouldn't you enhance it if you're able to do so?

" It is our inability to accept truth that brings pain. "

That would suffice, had not truth be such a polemic subject. Some say the "truth" prevails even if no one believes it; but then, what if someone claims a false thing to be true or a true thing to be false? How do you discern between what is true and what is not?

I disagree that pain has to do with the lack of acceptance. From my perspective, pain is the resistance to a movement, and sometimes people ought to be resistance. Wouldn't you stand up against injustice? Would you not, then your connivance would cause more pain. Would you stand against it, you would feel the pain of resisting the avalanche of the unjust, predatory establishment.

A mere simpleton acceptance per se wouldn't foment any real change; and since life is change, wouldn't you rather live?

"We see suffering and want to alleviate it, this is natural, however, we have to experience pain in order to learn certain lessons and so if someone wants to suffer, it is their freewill."

We dissociate pain from suffering, and I suggest you do so as well. Dwelling in painful experiences, in the past or future (unattainable, unfeasible) events might bring suffering to the table. Over-focusing on any given part of the whole, such as a pixel of a high-res image, might promote suffering.

I'll illustrate:

Suppose your totality of being is a huge fractal image comprised of every color there is. A given experience or circumstance is a pixel within this fractal, and such pixel might have a certain predominant color, let's say red.

You then perceive the red. That is neutral per se.
Then you begin rationalizing and over-feeling the color you perceive:
"Oh my, so much red, so much blood, so much viscerality...! All I see is red, all I see is blood, the world is an endless red sea..." and so on.
From the principle of mentalism, you now create and re-create your reality from your perception, and the carousel goes on. You get imbued with reddish thoughts, emotions, and feelings, and soon enough you find yourself unable to see other hues.

It's not that the person "wants to suffer"; they're simply incapable of perceiving the self-imposed trick of the game: you get what you think about.

"Pondering martyrdom, if you sacrifice yourself for someone who doesn’t want to be saved, you’re not being of service. Many have been tricked into believing they must live a certain way."

This is a common trap, and I don't only refer to extremes such as martyrdom. The rationalized excuse can have many forms: a life of "servitude", of "unconditioned compassion", of "utmost wisdom", of "honourable duty", etc. The list is endless. You suit yourself with the reasons you want most to keep your mental engine up and running.

"I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules."

I'll spark some arousal against such a seemingly enlightened pursuit: how are you supposed to transcend reality if you cut yourself off from it?

This world ain't a tiny little peaceful village. Seclusion is as detrimental to the so-called awakening as over-inclusion. How are you supposed to wake up to the realities of this world if you blind yourself to them? Such an approach reminds me of the over-cautious, reluctant person who dies in the end anyhow. Life is going to deliver its blows whether you're in the front or in the sidelines and, in the end, we're all going to die anyway, so why not make a given lifetime the best you could possibly make? It's your choice.

"To put our faith in the creator to provide us with all we need allows us to be free of the fear that I am hearing being described. Many feel trapped, like drones in a hive forcing to work for a false queen, this experience has been created for them to learn, let them learn and demonstrate your understanding through your way of life and they may ask you to teach them."

The hive only lasts because it provides a shelter, a nest, protection of some kind to its drones/workers. The queen of the hive dictates the actions of the hive as a whole, serving as a kind of "brains" to the "muscles" of the workers. It's a good thing human beings are a step beyond animal life, right? Human beings can converse and make science, build upon ideas, and make the world a little better.

"The value of food cannot change, it is priceless, treasure it and grow it yourself and feel the liberation from globalisation. I can not describe the respect generated for ones food when it is grown and cared for by yourself. It also discourages gluttony because you see the toll it’s taken just for a fruit to get to harvest, everything is suddenly used far more efficiently. Waste doesn’t exist because you find a use for everything."

Absolutely. The biological processing of food that your body does is sacred and should be treated as such. However, the aversion of any given reference (be it the hive-mind of capitalism, a random predator figure, a remembrance of your past) still has the reference as the pivot. Your emotional self still values the thing you run from, you still put it in high regard. Therefore, the thing you value, even if you run from it, still has some power over you.

Why not overgrow the aversion and move to a place of serenity, of everlasting samadhi? It's your choice.

I have no need to reply with a Defense. I am not perfect, I have lots of imbalances that I work on daily. I mediate and try to be the best human I can be and I look to our teachers and learn their teachings. No man is trapped until he starts believing it. You put yourself in a box, if that leads you to a joyful existence then by all means continue. I am not here to argue or change minds.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

Working at a job is a voluntary agreement.

Not at all.

You have to work 'voluntarily' for this exploiter or the other exploiter. This is what the system requires.

Otherwise, if workers had enough choices, then they would not work for ever-decreasing wages.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/27/busin...olicy.html

That is the work of people like Alan Greenspan, who openly advocated job scarcity in order to push workers to work for less. And you see the results today, everywhere.

I do not believe you have to do anything. Freewill is fundamental. From the age of 13, Jesus left home and put his faith in the father, he knew the father intended for him not to lack and so he knew he had total freedom. Jesus wanted no limits, those of us with lessons place limitations on ourselves in order to come to terms with and surpass those limitations.

I see nettles, dandelions and lots of other food that the creator offers us in plenty. We desire a certain lifestyle and therefore we agree to be trapped in a system. Some are slaves and I do not deny this, they may have lessons in this and may have offered themselves in service so that the creator may know the experience of capture and freedom or a variety of other experiences.

Nature in its base form is cool, but what about applied Intelligence? Wouldn't you add to the creation, wouldn't you enhance it if you're able to do so?

" It is our inability to accept truth that brings pain. "

That would suffice, had not truth be such a polemic subject. Some say the "truth" prevails even if no one believes it; but then, what if someone claims a false thing to be true or a true thing to be false? How do you discern between what is true and what is not?

I disagree that pain has to do with the lack of acceptance. From my perspective, pain is the resistance to a movement, and sometimes people ought to be resistance. Wouldn't you stand up against injustice? Would you not, then your connivance would cause more pain. Would you stand against it, you would feel the pain of resisting the avalanche of the unjust, predatory establishment.

A mere simpleton acceptance per se wouldn't foment any real change; and since life is change, wouldn't you rather live?

"We see suffering and want to alleviate it, this is natural, however, we have to experience pain in order to learn certain lessons and so if someone wants to suffer, it is their freewill."

We dissociate pain from suffering, and I suggest you do so as well. Dwelling in painful experiences, in the past or future (unattainable, unfeasible) events might bring suffering to the table. Over-focusing on any given part of the whole, such as a pixel of a high-res image, might promote suffering.

I'll illustrate:

Suppose your totality of being is a huge fractal image comprised of every color there is. A given experience or circumstance is a pixel within this fractal, and such pixel might have a certain predominant color, let's say red.

You then perceive the red. That is neutral per se.
Then you begin rationalizing and over-feeling the color you perceive:
"Oh my, so much red, so much blood, so much viscerality...! All I see is red, all I see is blood, the world is an endless red sea..." and so on.
From the principle of mentalism, you now create and re-create your reality from your perception, and the carousel goes on. You get imbued with reddish thoughts, emotions, and feelings, and soon enough you find yourself unable to see other hues.

It's not that the person "wants to suffer"; they're simply incapable of perceiving the self-imposed trick of the game: you get what you think about.

"Pondering martyrdom, if you sacrifice yourself for someone who doesn’t want to be saved, you’re not being of service. Many have been tricked into believing they must live a certain way."

This is a common trap, and I don't only refer to extremes such as martyrdom. The rationalized excuse can have many forms: a life of "servitude", of "unconditioned compassion", of "utmost wisdom", of "honourable duty", etc. The list is endless. You suit yourself with the reasons you want most to keep your mental engine up and running.

"I live in the U.K, those of Holy Island in Scotland have started their own way of life. They grow their own food organically, work the fields and cook to earn their roof and live in pursuit of enlightenment via the Buddhas teachings. There are no drugs to be taken there but apart from that there are not many rules."

I'll spark some arousal against such a seemingly enlightened pursuit: how are you supposed to transcend reality if you cut yourself off from it?

This world ain't a tiny little peaceful village. Seclusion is as detrimental to the so-called awakening as over-inclusion. How are you supposed to wake up to the realities of this world if you blind yourself to them? Such an approach reminds me of the over-cautious, reluctant person who dies in the end anyhow. Life is going to deliver its blows whether you're in the front or in the sidelines and, in the end, we're all going to die anyway, so why not make a given lifetime the best you could possibly make? It's your choice.

"To put our faith in the creator to provide us with all we need allows us to be free of the fear that I am hearing being described. Many feel trapped, like drones in a hive forcing to work for a false queen, this experience has been created for them to learn, let them learn and demonstrate your understanding through your way of life and they may ask you to teach them."

The hive only lasts because it provides a shelter, a nest, protection of some kind to its drones/workers. The queen of the hive dictates the actions of the hive as a whole, serving as a kind of "brains" to the "muscles" of the workers. It's a good thing human beings are a step beyond animal life, right? Human beings can converse and make science, build upon ideas, and make the world a little better.

"The value of food cannot change, it is priceless, treasure it and grow it yourself and feel the liberation from globalisation. I can not describe the respect generated for ones food when it is grown and cared for by yourself. It also discourages gluttony because you see the toll it’s taken just for a fruit to get to harvest, everything is suddenly used far more efficiently. Waste doesn’t exist because you find a use for everything."

Absolutely. The biological processing of food that your body does is sacred and should be treated as such. However, the aversion of any given reference (be it the hive-mind of capitalism, a random predator figure, a remembrance of your past) still has the reference as the pivot. Your emotional self still values the thing you run from, you still put it in high regard. Therefore, the thing you value, even if you run from it, still has some power over you.

Why not overgrow the aversion and move to a place of serenity, of everlasting samadhi? It's your choice.

Also I love science and am very grateful for our progress. I just feel that with science being balanced with spirituality, as demonstrated by Einstein, leads to much greater and more sustainable contributions and inventions. We have the capability to feed the world, but choose not to, end drought, but choose to drain aquifers etc. I don’t disagree in the slightest, I love humanity but because the current system is based on greed, it’s based energy is one of complete entropy and nothing positive can last in that environment. We all need to work on ourselves and abilities not to have to defend ourselves.

It is our defensive thoughts that attack our invulnerability. Have none of you grasped that cause and effect are simultaneous? That the inside and the outside happen together? That our thoughts and beliefs are creating the reality you currently experience?

These are all there waiting for you, seek to know truth and the rest will fall away.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I’m not advocating a hermetic lifestyle. Those of holy island learn together and are learning their lessons of yellow ray as a group. I’m not one to run from society myself but I’m very capable of surviving. If the system collapses I would happily try and feed as many as possible and contribute in whatever way I could. I’m just trying to make you aware that all food is free and a gift. This is literally love. This entire exchange with nothing in return is love. Yet you all put a price on things, believing people who were most likely miserable and just as much ‘slaves’ to the system.

Don’t base your beliefs on those who have spent their existence hating their life and the world, you will learn nothing but the same beliefs that led them to that state.

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I would like to apologise if I have caused any offence. I’m not the best communicator and have a long way to go. I want to understand you all and see you as myself. I used to believe I was trapped too and used to never be satisfied unless everyone believed we were as trapped as I believed. I have come to learn that the trick is believing you’re trapped. I believe we create our own reality and wherever we are, we have placed ourselves there to learn. We have created that reality for ourselves and so by taking responsibility for everything, you are very powerful. Life is no longer motivated by the outside and now speaks to you from peace found inside.

I believe that if you change the inside the outside will change. I mentioned holy island as an example of a society created within a society and that if you and a family of seekers wanted that life, you could have that and welcome those who want the same.

Sure some will want to take advantage and you might lose it all, I’m often reminding people of their deaths and I am rather eager for my body to feed the earth and the trees, returning just a position of the service that Mother Earth has shown me.

I’m fine with dying, I just work on making the world I create as loving as possible. Even towards the murderer and the rapist, I seek to understand and love them and seek to forgive and accept the murderer within myself. I’m not preaching that I’m above anyone, just suggesting in a biased way that I think you’re not trapped at all and every situation you’re in can teach you something. We’re here to learn and we always have that opportunity no
matter the circumstance. Life literally cannot be lost.

[Diana]

I think if there was one, single thing that would help conversations between us on B4, it is this: That none of us knows.

For my part, I try not to believe in any of my suppositions—this way, I stay open to evolving my apprehensions about what existence is, and how I fit into it and why. In addition, this is not the density of understanding according to Ra.

We all get triggered by certain things. For me, it's the human abuse of animals and all other life forms other than human. It has been helpful for me here to interact with others who have unique points of view regarding what triggers me. In my opinion, Wanderer or not, "guru" or not, no one person has "the answers."

[TheAmbiguousSod]

I think if there was one, single thing that would help conversations between us on B4, it is this: That none of us knows.

For my part, I try not to believe in any of my suppositions—this way, I stay open to evolving my apprehensions about what existence is, and how I fit into it and why. In addition, this is not the density of understanding according to Ra.

We all get triggered by certain things. For me, it's the human abuse of animals and all other life forms other than human. It has been helpful for me here to interact with others who have unique points of view regarding what triggers me. In my opinion, Wanderer or not, "guru" or not, no one person has "the answers."

Thank you so much for your words of guidance. I will bear them in mind. I am not versed in speaking in a way in which I cannot convey my feelings with my body. Words seem so silly to me when trying to talk about such big things. I share the same trigger with you too, and use it the best possible way I can as a motivation to never let that persist. I believe that trigger inside me is love, not being happy and therefore motivating me to change it. I have much balancing to do with that feeling, but I feel it is a blessing in ways those who perform those acts may never understand.

Thank you so much for your kind words.

[flofrog]

I’m fine with dying, I just work on making the world I create as loving as possible. Even towards the murderer and the rapist, I seek to understand and love them and seek to forgive and accept the murderer within myself. I’m not preaching that I’m above anyone, just suggesting in a biased way that I think you’re not trapped at all and every situation you’re in can teach you something. We’re here to learn and we always have that opportunity no
matter the circumstance. Life literally cannot be lost.

I so agree TheAmbiguousSod,
I remember years back, thinking about the issue of rapist, after reading an extensive document in a magazine. One was the story of a rapist who ended by describing a scene which had happened to him as a child. He was living with a mother who had issues with violence, one day, as he was 12, she came in a rage to the public school where he was, managed to get into the classroom and once there after she was approached by her child, just put his pants down in front of the whole class. That was one of the element that had later transformed him into a rapist. The second story was the one of a young woman in a small town in northern france where the police was trying to track a serial rapist. One night she was getting back home late, and alone in the street started to hear someone pacing behind her. She lengthened her pace and the person followed her new slow walk, then she hastened and the person followed her the same way. She was panicking and suddenly as she was getting close to her apartment, she decided to turn around, went up to the man following her and said to him, I am really afraid , would you mind just accompanying me to my door which is a few yards way, and so, astounded apparently, so he did.

Two quite remarkable stories I thought.