06-07-2020, 01:19 PM
I think time would have an heart attack if it sped up faster than that.
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06-07-2020, 01:19 PM
I think time would have an heart attack if it sped up faster than that.
06-07-2020, 01:47 PM
Unity including disharmony is truth at one point in infinity, but I have an issue with the idea that unity means to include all bellicose disharmony perpetually, and not move towards peaceful harmonic unity of higher planes.
Maybe I am not understanding posts though and that isnt what is being implied. There is no stumble involve in seeing once each puts down their personal seperate wounds, and need to wound others in a consiousness of seperation there would be no disharmony or bellicose nature in that plane. There is only harmony in higher relms toward unity because we all easily see we are one. Looking back to 3D of course we know that seperation was/is part of us. We are trying to move out of 3D though as a imminent smc. Here in the present unity includes it all, but as each is healed there is of course a dropping of seperation and on this plane as each goes through the process we move to 4D and the disharmony dissipates to one of knowing our unity and finding harmony. Disharmony is to be accepted but it isn’t part of where we are moving as a planet to 4D+(unity). That’s why there will be a split in 4D so those who seek to deny our unity further can freely explore it, and those who seek to accept our oneness/unity identity can step into that and do onto others as we would have done onto ourselves. Because we all are each “ourselve”.
06-07-2020, 01:48 PM
06-07-2020, 01:57 PM
(06-07-2020, 12:32 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: Infinite, Yes. From death and destruction comes the new. This seems to me in some way similar to the death of the ego and the rebirth in a new and elevated being from the penetration into intelligent infinity. (06-07-2020, 12:43 PM)peregrine Wrote: I cannot help but note here that in Iraq the tore down statues as well, but that conduced to uninterrupted suffering and strife. Well, they are different scenarios in my view. The United Kingdom is a nation with a more established democracy than Iraq. A statue being dropped there is something more strongly symbolic than in the Middle East, whose scene is one of successive dictatorships, coups, wars and revolutions. (06-07-2020, 12:43 PM)peregrine Wrote: Good public policy (moving away from policies which are dehumanizing and brutal towards those which are caring and supportive) is a miserably difficult process, one which protesting has nothing to do with. It has to do with reconciliation and collaboration. I think a united "phoenix-journey" will be a very slow one with some many forces sprawling in so many directions. Remember when Ra talks about Abraham Lincoln. The process of preventing the enslavement of other human beings was achieved through struggle and war. This is part of the planetary game. It is not beautiful in our eyes, but how many real and significant changes throughout history have been achieved without struggle and protest? I wanted it to always be like what Gandhi did, but, as Ra said, much of humanity's progression has trauma as its catalyst. This can be seen both in an individual and collective context. The impression of the true green color is influencing the planetary consciousness, and it is not unthinkable that the delineation of polarities causes impacts. (06-07-2020, 12:43 PM)peregrine Wrote: Over the next few centuries we should begin to iron out the wrinkles. I am less optimistic. I don't think everything will be okay. I believe that humanity will begin to be reduced more and more, by wars, diseases and natural catastrophes. I honestly do not believe that the current civilization will last for another 100 years. It is almost midnight. There are only a few minutes left before the clock sounds ...
This is interesting.
In a mental way of perceiving, trying to temper wisdom ( even for a frog) with love, I would be tempted to think this is going to be long, and not as perhaps as pessimistic as Infinite, who is so wise though, taking a few more diseases and violence, I would feel yes it will take long but as peregrine says a few centuries, though not too many in optimist frog's way. Yet... on the other hand, what we wish and strive for is slow elimination of fear, which can only be replaced by relief and ultimately love, right ? But when we do see peaceful protests now going on world wide, even though some go for relief of quarantine, still... the threat of Virus is still there, and... still everywhere now, people congregate together, despite the fear of Covid, for a deeply loving wish to see a centuries bruised people allowed freedom and respect; that, when you think of it, means a great, great, huge by numbers, load of fears overcome by one truthful organic desire of help and love for each other. It means somewhere we arrive to faith, and faith of that many can move, yes, mountains.. interesting moments we live
06-07-2020, 05:47 PM
(06-07-2020, 05:23 PM)flofrog Wrote: This is interesting. I love all that. In some ways Covid has been a freeing gift. I have been active in dialogue with many people who were not happy with the status quo. When asked why they don’t protest it was always the same answer. My healthcare is tied to employment I cannot lose my job, or similar I cannot afford to miss work and lose my job. Covid has been harsh but it has made us uncomfortable enough, insecure enough(health, prosperity, employment wise) that the reasons protest of the status quo could not happen are not enough to stop being done what needs to be done. (06-06-2020, 08:08 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:(06-06-2020, 01:05 AM)unity100 Wrote: Being anti fascist being demonic would mean that fascism is angelic/godsent and therefore it is 'good' and 'positive'.That's how Franco in Spain set things up. In a very old-school Catholic way, reviving the inquisition mentality that the torture and killing of those presumed guilty was good for their souls, a way of "cleansing" or "atoning" or getting rid of the darkness. The church embraced Franco as the salvation of themselves and their country. The opponents, the anti-religious and communistic, were demonized. The most ironic thing is that the actual Spanish Inquisition seems to have been pretty the opposite, most people getting off with fines or without any punishment. And because belief crimes were persecuted and punished lighter, common criminals seem to have tried to get persecuted by inquisition as belief criminals to got off easy. Quote:"Left" and "right" are relative to whatever the establishment happens to be. In relation to the Anglo-American deep state, Ra is the pinnacle of and ultimate type of sinister representative for something we can call, cosmic hippie anti-fascist democratic communism. To be a bit more precise, that label may be good (except a bit long, perhaps) for what the Confederation seems to promote. And Ra was a national security threat to boot - for exposing the existence of Tesla weapons - all the way to the number of people who knew their existence, where they were produced, their capabilities... Indeed it cant be understated how all confederation's teaching is an existential threat to the current (and past) system on this planet. Quote:In part it may all seem new, but there's historical patterns mirroring all those things. That's the usual problem when discussing whether a truly "new age" has finally arrived or not. The basic patterns in authority, violence against protesters, etc., are actually really old. Yep, thats new - everything's true nature coming out undeniably and unmistakably. Quote: It warps the collective "field" like a black hole hiding itself from plain visibility. Yet symbolic clues are also sprinkled around which point to what's there, to the collective madness which all those people have ended up serving (most of them unconscious of it). I'd rather say that it was always like that in time space, now the farce is just getting removed and the brick wall behind the theater is being exposed. (06-06-2020, 02:31 PM)flofrog Wrote: Unity100, I am not at all digressing with you, but I think right now, because I still think each individual's awareness matters, I think that most probably now, each policeman is seriously, at some point, whether when they go to sleep or drive to their precinct, or whenever, have some thinking about what is going on right now. I think some must really feel while these events are going through them, a passage of catalyst that they are not ignoring. The simple view that some of them may kneel along with protesters, this simple fact will change something inside. Well, surely there would be some among the police who are thinking about things, but a lot of them seem to be kneeling with protesters and then gassing them after an hour or so. (06-07-2020, 08:31 AM)David_1 Wrote: One woman’s opinion. Leaving aside one or two people do not make an entire host of people guilty: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/tw...r-n1221456 https://twitter.com/KilohanaKona/status/...1734550528
06-08-2020, 11:19 AM
I think Flofrog may have mentioned this before, but I wanted to mention both Floyd and Chauvin, who through their possibly planned sacrifice, may have helped move our society toward positive change.
I have just now read about the council vote in Minneapolis, and other cities talking about shifting funds from policing to more appropriate and preventative social services. We will see how this plays out, but if it actually happens, and the disenfranchised people in this country are eventually better supported…it's a great thing.
06-08-2020, 12:27 PM
Very interesting to watch all this.
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