First Hominids

[Aion]

Occult numbers are just derived from compound numbers (double digits) and you add them together to reduce them to a simple number. It's probably more that people don't know that is what that operation in numerology is for. That is, the compound number is seen as the 'exoteric' or visible nature of the compound number, and the simple is the occult or hidden nature. It's archetypal nature.

The idea is that larger compound numbers have a relationship with their simple numbers in terms of quality.

For myself, I see numbers themselves as archetypal. So I see the numbers not just as quantities but also as qualities. I'm sure you get exactly what I mean. The idea then is that there are really only 9 numbers (zero technically not being a number proper but representing void), and all compound numbers quality derives from the combination of their simples, being more of a synthesis.

The reason I mention it because I thought it would be interesting to examine in light of your presentation of 9 densities, ROYGIV/Sun/Moon, so I would correlate the numbers together.

So, looking at the first number 64, reduced to occult number 1, which would correspond with Red, the first density, etc. This actually makes sense along the idea of DNA, programming, etc

Hmm show your work?

might as well save it to a notepad
1447912161925283639495264678184100103121124144147169172196199

edit:

oh I see so..

1, 4 = 5
4, 7 = 11

Yes, and some might reduce 11 further to 2, but a lot of people see doubles as "Master Numbers", especially 11, 22 and 33.

Although I always figured every double number is probably like that. In them I see an octave meeting itself.

[Navaratna]

Now here's a fun one with squares, you can construct a perfect square using a compass, a circle. Squaring the circle anyone?

https://www.mathopenref.com/constsquare.html

Tesseract
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dimension_levels.svg

a channeling guy on here gave me the tesseract as something to meditate upon

I wonder who's going to be the first to invent a Nintendo 199 or 196 lol...

Announcer: Introducing....
The all new Navaratna 196 console
Featuring.. hologram goggle virtual reality

[Aion]

It's funny I was exposed to the idea of tesseracts through kid's fiction when I was younger and I think that really helped to urge me towards understanding dimensionality.

[Aion]

The interesting thing about tesseracts is that it seems to introduce the scalar dimension to the other 3 vectors.

Have you read in to Dewey B Larson's Reciprocal Theory? It is mentioned in the material.

http://www.lrcphysics.com/rst/

[Navaratna]

Alright good responses

[Aion]

All about that symmetry.

[Navaratna]

ok I see

[Dtris]

I'm not sure why I never noticed this before, but Ra directly states here that the first hominids on the planet came from Mars.

9.5 Questioner: The original, the first entities on this planet— what was their origin? Where were they before they were on this planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The first entities upon this planet were water, fire, air and earth.

9.6 Questioner: The people that we now have— the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak of third-density experience. The first of those to come here were brought from another planet in your solar system called by you the Red Planet, Mars. This planet’s environment became inhospitable to third-density beings. The first entities, therefore, were of this race, as you may call it, manipulated somewhat by those who were guardians at that time.

However, the last bit is interesting and reflects a common idea, that they were genetically altered or tampered with. Specifically, "brought here", though.

9.7 Questioner: What race is that, and how did they get from Mars to here?

Ra: I am Ra. The race is a combination of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those of your so-called Red Planet and a careful series of genetical adjustments made by the guardians of that time. These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive, but consists of preparing genetic material for the incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those entities from the Red Planet.

This sounds essentially like a form of modified cloning. So not only were the entities cloned but also altered to be able to survive on Earth.

9.8 Questioner: Then I’m assuming what you’re saying is that the guardians transferred the race here after the race had died from the physical as we know it on Mars. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

So it sounds like a soul can only be in one third density body at a time, so once all of them had died on Mars, the genetic material was then brought to fruition on Earth so the m/b/s complexes could incarnate in to them. Supposedly, this is the beginning of the legacy of humans on this planet. However, the next bit is something I totally missed in other readings.

9.9 Questioner: The guardians obviously were acting with an understanding of the Law of One in doing this. Can you explain the application of the Law of One in this process?

Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race. It, however, took an increasing amount of distortion into the application of the Law of One from the viewpoint of other guardians and it is from this beginning action that the quarantine of this planet was instituted, for it was felt that the free will of those of the Red Planet had been abridged.

9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

So the latter bit there I believe is they essentially nuked themselves, but anyways the really interesting point here I'm going to re-interate.

The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race.

What.

So not only were those from Mars transferred here but in the process they melded with the Guardian's social memory complex. Is this like, a buddy system? One guardian per one Martian? Or is it more of a fusion, a synthesis, whereby the consciousness of the Guardians and those of Mars are melded in to one seeking a balance between the two sides?

This would seem to be reflected in a LOT of mythology.

Not only that though, that has huge implications for this planet because this is why Earth was quarantined.

So, these Guardians engaged in supposed an 'accidental' act of self-service, because they abridged the free will of those from Mars, this seems like a "fallen angel" kind of story to me. Now, these same entities, combined with those from Mars, now seek to understand their dual natures.

Explains why there is such a tendency towards war in humans, maybe.

Anyways, it's probably just science fiction, but these are fun concepts to think about.

But, to play with it further, does this also mean, that all of us have some Mars and Guardian consciousness thing goin on because of the genetic legacy of our hominid bodies?

So what is interesting is that elsewhere in the material it mentions that the first 3rd density humans were a mixture of those who naturally graduated from 2nd density and the transplanted group from Mars, as well and other groups from other planets which needed to repeat the cycle. These groups stayed rather separated which contributed to our bellicose tendencies.

If you look at the timeline of the destruction of Mars people and the start of 3rd density on Earth there is a large gap in time. So the people of Mars would have been kept in time/space for healing until they could incarnate.

Other areas also mention that the form of the 2nd density hominid or ape was used as the basis for the genetic changes made. So evolution of some form normally occurs between these types of vehicles but was modified by those who brought the Martians over. Making me speculate that the genetic material used in the cloning was Earth 2nd density being altered to 3rd density biology. This was then mixed with native 3rd density evolved people. Which would explain the mixing in our genome of multiple types of hominids.

Don questioned further somewhere and Ra mentions that the quarantine was "intensified".

21.8 Questioner: I don’t mean to be covering ground that we’ve already covered, but there’re some points that we have trouble with fully understanding and sometimes I have to ask the question a different way to fully understand it. Thank you.

So at the start of this 75,000-year cycle we know that the quarantine was set up. I am assuming then that the Guardians were aware of the infringements on free will that would occur if they didn’t set this up at that time and therefore did it. This— Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially incorrect. The incorrectness is as follows: those entities whose third-density experience upon your Red Planet was brought to a close prematurely were aided genetically while being transferred to this third density. This, although done in a desire to aid, was seen as infringement upon free will. The light quarantine which consists of the Guardians, or gardeners as you may call them, which would have been in effect thus was intensified.

This means there is always a quarantine. Just we get the super strong version.

The fallen angel story is referenced much more directly elsewhere while discussing Yahweh.

18.18 Questioner: Can you tell me Yahweh’s purpose in making the genetic sexual changes?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose seven five oh oh oh [75,000] years ago, as you measure time, the changes subsequent to that time were of one purpose only: that to express in the mind/body complex those characteristics which would lead to further and more speedy development of the spiritual complex.

18.19 Questioner: How did these characteristics go about leading to the more spiritual development?

Ra: I am Ra. The characteristics which were encouraged included sensitivity of all the physical senses to sharpen the experiences, and the strengthening of the mind complex in order to promote the ability to analyze these experiences.

18.20 Questioner: When did Yahweh act to perform the genetic changes that Yahweh performed?

Ra: I am Ra. The Yahweh group worked with those of the planet you call Mars seven five, seventy-five thousand [75,000] years ago in what you would call the cloning process. There are differences, but they lie in the future of your time/space continuum and we cannot break the free will Law of Confusion.

The two six oh oh [2,600], approximately, time was the second time— we correct ourselves— three six oh oh [3,600], approximately, the time of attempts by those of the Orion group during this cultural complex; this was a series of encounters in which the ones called Anak were impregnated with the new genetic coding by your physical complex means so that the organisms would be larger and stronger.

Also this answer from the same session might explain the type of melding which was accomplished by the Guardians.

18.15 Questioner: Can you tell me what these genetic changes were and how they were brought about?

Ra: I am Ra. Some of these genetic changes were in a form similar to what you call the cloning process. Thus, entities incarnated in the image of the Yahweh entities. The second was a contact of the nature you know as sexual, changing the mind/body/spirit complex through the natural means of the patterns of reproduction devised by the intelligent energy of your physical complex.

If this is the event mentioned in the melding of social memory complexes then the implications are that genetic alteration can influence the social memory complex. Unless the melding occurred on another level?

[flofrog]

Dtris, just a small thing,
I love your posts, very interested in your own thoughts, and if in the future you have time, if you could put in quotes what Ra says so that we immediately see your own thoughts ?

Was there such a huge gap between the end of Mars and the populating of Earth ? Can't remember.

I remember loving reading that passage the first time I discovered the LOO. I always had like this idea that Darwin's explanation of evolution from the ape direct to human had something weird and missing, lol

[Navaratna]

I think it'd be insane to see what Abraham really was.
If he was only a human, Ra as some people have interpreted, or some entity from another world.

Good luck letting religious people study his body though, and there's always the question of if it's really him. It's like the stone in Mecca. No one knows what it really is. Space debris? A tektite? Or just a piece of dark Earth material.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

[Dtris]

Dtris, just a small thing,  
I love your posts, very interested in your own thoughts,  and if in the future you have time, if you could put in quotes what Ra says so that we immediately see your own thoughts ?

Was there such a huge gap between the end of Mars and the populating  of Earth ? Can't remember.

I remember loving reading that passage the first time I discovered the LOO.  I always had like this idea that Darwin's explanation of evolution from the ape direct to human had something weird and missing, lol

Thanks for the feedback. I am out of practice on this type of board and will get better.

[Diana]

It's funny I was exposed to the idea of tesseracts through kid's fiction when I was younger and I think that really helped to urge me towards understanding dimensionality.

Reading "Flatland" is also helpful.

[Aion]

It's funny I was exposed to the idea of tesseracts through kid's fiction when I was younger and I think that really helped to urge me towards understanding dimensionality.

Reading "Flatland" is also helpful.

We watched Flatland in one of my math classes in high school, that's a good one.

[Navaratna]

Thanks

[Aion]

Huh, I just thought, if Tesseract is 4th dimensional or whatever, what would that make Metatron's Cube? Lol

ALL THE DIMENSIONS.

[Navaratna]

All is one, no distortion in Ra's message

[Aion]

You might find it interesting to know (if you didn't already) that the black and white chess board is one of the masonic symbols for the material plane.