03-09-2020, 12:43 AM
I need help with self-forgiveness, please.
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03-09-2020, 03:39 AM
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03-09-2020, 04:17 PM
888, could you consider that whatever we do is gone, and perhaps guilt, if it is useful for a few seconds to let us know, ok we'll not do that next time, but guilt is essentially useless afterwards ? whatever we wish to forgive ourselves is in the past, it has been done, it has worked its part, and you are the same really lovely higher soul too anyway, do you see that ?
Do you see how guilt is really of little value, even probably quite negative in the end ? There's all the rest of you 888, all th e labour in this difficult 3D, yet so lovely too, the rest of you, quite as extraordinary and unique as for everyone of us .. do you see this ? 
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03-09-2020, 05:35 PM
(03-09-2020, 03:39 AM)RitaJC Wrote:(03-09-2020, 12:43 AM)888 Wrote: I need help with self-forgiveness, please. Sure. (03-09-2020, 04:17 PM)flofrog Wrote: 888, could you consider that whatever we do is gone, and perhaps guilt, if it is useful for a few seconds to let us know, ok we'll not do that next time, but guilt is essentially useless afterwards ? whatever we wish to forgive ourselves is in the past, it has been done, it has worked its part, and you are the same really lovely higher soul too anyway, do you see that ? Yes, thank you.
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03-10-2020, 09:17 AM
OK. Could we talk? [/quote] Sure. [/quote] Drop me a PM and let's do it
03-10-2020, 10:11 AM
As a former victim of obscene ritual torture who has forgiven his former abuser, I assert that the good one does can dwarf the negative in glorious fashion if one wills it.
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03-10-2020, 09:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-10-2020, 09:49 PM by Black Dragon.)
(03-10-2020, 10:11 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: As a former victim of obscene ritual torture who has forgiven his former abuser, I assert that the good one does can dwarf the negative in glorious fashion if one wills it.Well that takes a lot. I can't even imagine when I read other people's posts here that have experienced that stuff first hand in such a fashion, I hear of these negative groups of people doing these sorts of things, but never seen it outright like that. I do believe that such forces have wrought havoc on my own life, but its such a different approach, really subtle and insidious, not so outright as ritual abuse or intensive gang stalking, but in a lot of ways just as effective. I think for some reason the "loyal opposition" feel they need to tread carefully with me, and I'm not really sure why, as I don't feel particularly protected, and though I feel way smarter and bigger than them and the whole system on some level, I also feel super weak, impotent, and unprotected in this particular incarnation. I feel I might have been in a situation as the material describes as a child at some point as far as negative non-human contact, where I was in a pretty negative state which allowed them to get a lock on me, but they made the mistake of thinking that's who I really was, and when they made contact, there was a huge blowback of my wanderer light leaking into their system and causing havoc/rebellion among the minions. That would be enough to piss them off and make me their new hobby for the rest of my incarnation for sure.
04-10-2020, 04:19 PM
You may release your hate
I wouldn’t start at forgiving, I would instead seek to understand.
Once you understand you really can not blame, you can regret or wish you(or other-self) had done better but through understanding judgement dissolves. If you can judge self or other, you simply do not understand enough. That’s why we go through life over and over experiencing “karma”. Karma is the gift of the potential to understand what we haven’t. We can always do better, each moment each day, but we are always development speaking exactly where we are. Cannot blame a toddler for not knowing calculus, the same goes for spiritual and personal evolution. Understand self and other and there is no need to judge or forgive, just perpetual opportunity to learn and do better as we know better.
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